Sick Boy
Super Moderator
As usual you are completely out of touch with reality and devoid of any empathy and compassion. I'd stick to your horses and donkeys if I were you.
Amazing how you always have a personal story to tell to suit your argument even if it contradicts actual research on the subject
Forgive me if I go with the research.
The research says one factor for going is a feeling of unity and comradeship as many users are lonely and without contact and routines - so I'm surprised it was depressing.
The only foodbanks I contribute to are to animal sanctuarys.
Well the solution of getting rid of zero hour contracts and driving up minimum wage will almost certainly mean less jobs, and higher unemployment?
As usual you are completely out of touch with reality and devoid of any empathy and compassion. I'd stick to your horses and donkeys if I were you.
Amazing how you always have a personal story to tell to suit your argument even if it contradicts actual research on the subject
Forgive me if I go with the research.
The research says one factor for going is a feeling of unity and comradeship as many users are lonely and without contact and routines - so I'm surprised it was depressing.
The only foodbanks I contribute to are to animal sanctuarys.
I've done a little bit as well and in my experience I have to concur with what Sickboy has said.
Just basic supply and demand. Increase the price of a commodity and all other things being equal, demand reduces.What bollocks
to what, the foodbank?Can you post a link?
to what, the foodbank?
So it's anecdotal not actual research?
this country managed perfectly well without zero hour contracts before they came along, it's just exploitation.
Why ?
'LOL'
So it's anecdotal not actual research?
You always do you bosom buddies !I've done a little bit as well and in my experience I have to concur with what Sickboy has said.
Just basic supply and demand. Increase the price of a commodity and all other things being equal, demand reduces.
You always do you bosom buddies !
I don’t take that much home, but the fact that you take home only 60% of what you earn if you did earn 200,000, is ridiculous imo. I don’t see how it is fair and equal. That if you earn more you pay more.
I like the idea of a set rate for everybody, over a certain amount, it may not be financially viable but I don’t think it’s fair. But that’s my opinion and not everybody will agree.
Tbh I hate comparing countries, as it’s like comparing people. Not every country is the same and there are always so many different variables.
I just think punishing the people that have worked so hard to get to where they are puts some people off pushing themselves to the next level, which in itself harms quality of life... it might not be many. But still.
No you don’t get bonus points for paying more tax ofc not.
And yes I agree we do need a rethink of our tax system.
I think there is a ridiculous stat that if everybody in England paid £3 a year towards the NHS, then the huge financial crisis they are going through would be solved.
Sorry you don't get paid that muchseriously though I'd never begrudge anyone the wages they earn but equally I'd never feel sorry for the taxes they have to pay either.
I accept that comparing countries can be difficult, for instance more people live in London than live in Denmark so it's a lot more efficient to govern than the UK but on the basic principle at its most basic level it does demonstrate how paying taxes shouldn't feel like a chore. The Danes aren't that different from Brits in most respects other than they don't mind paying more taxes for good social standards.
I was mostly referring to increasing the minimum wage.ZHC could cover multiple people apparently 'employed' but in what amounts to less full time equivalent posts than there are people.
So, how would getting rid of ZHC actually lead to a genuine rise in unemployment? If somebody is on a ZHC working on average 16 hours or less a week, they are essentially unemployed for the purpose of claiming dole.
Amazing how you always have a personal story to tell to suit your argument even if it contradicts actual research on the subject
Forgive me if I go with the research.
The research says one factor for going is a feeling of unity and comradeship as many users are lonely and without contact and routines - so I'm surprised it was depressing.
The only foodbanks I contribute to are to animal sanctuarys.
I was mostly referring to increasing the minimum wage.
Although labour uses zhc as another stick, not all people actually want anything different. Students being a great example. There has always been casual labour and as a student myself I did it. Ban it and these people will lose out as they cannot commit to full time work. A lack of flexibility to some employers may reduce some jobs but it's the minimum wage that would decrease jobs.
but there hasn't always been zero hour contracts. You know that they are not being used soley for students and casual labour. They are no good for people with families who need a regular income but many find themselves on them as they have become more widespread.
but there hasn't always been zero hour contracts. You know that they are not being used soley for students and casual labour. They are no good for people with families who need a regular income but many find themselves on them as they have become more widespread.
but there hasn't always been zero hour contracts. You know that they are not being used soley for students and casual labour. They are no good for people with families who need a regular income but many find themselves on them as they have become more widespread.
Yes but at least 0 hour contracts give some cash flow to those that can’t get full-time employment.
For example 3 of the people I worked with at the pub, had set hours, to work around kids school life, and were well into their 40’s and they didn’t want anything more than the 0 hour contract.
3 more others, were students, who either wanted to work in the holidays, or on free evenings to earn some extra pennies.
2 others, had partners, who worked odd shift patterns, and had babies to look after, and so zero hour contracts suited them, as they are more flexible.
Research suggests two thirds prefer the arrangement.
Nobody is permitted to depend on them tony. You may not go there every day. No matter how much money people get, some will spend it all and run out of food some times. The only way to stop them being used is to close them.
Nobody is permitted to depend on them tony. You may not go there every day. No matter how much money people get, some will spend it all and run out of food some times. The only way to stop them being used is to close them.
Perhaps you share this and the foodbank research with us?
terrible thing to say. Your lack of empathy is appalling.
I had a spell on benefits around 25 years ago. I was skint but we didn't need food banks. we could pay our bills, feed our family and keep a roof over our heads on the benefits we received.
We got back on our feet, and have since paid a fair old whack in tax and I don't begrudge a penny. You could look on the benefits we received as an investment, it kept our heads above water until we were in a position to contribute again. why shouldn't everyone be afforded the same safety net in times of hardship?
It could happen to anyone. If it was up to some on here we'd have been put on the scrap heap!!
Perhaps you share this and the foodbank research with us?
He is right about 0 hour contracts. Think stats are that 32% want full time contracts the rest are happy with what they are on.
And he has already shared the food bank research earlier in the thread
I volunteered at a food bank a bit last year and can assure you that a lot of the people using them have little choice and even feel a great deal of shame.
Luckily there are still people with compassion who donate food and a lot of time to help these people, it was bloody depressing.
**Awaits virtual signalling bollocks**
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