O'Hare bids (19 Viewers)

KenilworthSkyBlue

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How is it pedantic to point out we have paid a fee, to somebody saying we can't pay a fee to get themselves worked up that Robins is going to walk? (like people do every year).

People are actually making up scenarios now.

To be fair, he didn't actually say that though if you read the post.

He said the club seemingly this season can't manage to scrape even a fairly nominal fee together like we probably would've paid for Palmer, if we even paid a fee at all as there seems to be conflicting reports, without shipping players out.

Anyway he's probably not far off as presumably a proportion of any fee paid for Palmer, again if there was one, came from the Shipley sale and whatever shrapnel was generated from Drysdale.
 

Nick

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To be fair, he didn't actually say that though if you read the post.

He said the club seemingly this season can't manage to scrape even a fairly nominal fee together like we probably would've paid for Palmer, if we even paid a fee at all as there seems to be conflicting reports, without shipping players out.

Anyway he's probably not far off as presumably a proportion of any fee paid for Palmer, again if there was one, came from the Shipley sale and whatever shrapnel was generated from Drysdale.

"Single Outgoing Fee"

You are just speculating, I am just saying we have had a single outgoing fee.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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A made-up scenario to get angry then considering Shipley went towards the start of May for Undisclosed. Who do you think realistically costs more?

It just depends how you want to spin things.
His quote was a single outgoing fee without sales. The second half is kind of important in his statement.
 

Nick

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His quote was a single outgoing fee without sales. The second half is kind of important in his statement.

Again, it's a scenario spun to try and get angry that Robins would walk.

It's like saying we wouldn't have brought Gyo and Sheaf in last year if we hadn't got rid of Marosi and Bremang.
 

KenilworthSkyBlue

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Just tried looking on Burnley forums to see if anything is rumoured up there, what a fucking shambles, makes Luton’s look like Windows 22

No mention of O’Hare at all that I could see, maybe it’s all a figment of our imaginations

I had a look on there the other day and made a swift exit after I saw one poster seriously suggest Michy Batshuayi on loan.
 

Skyblueweeman

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Whatever happens from here we're putting up a stubborn fight. I thought he was gone but sounds like there's a way to go. If we get 9mill + we've done unbelievably well.

Which surely puts to bed any notion that some on here have of DB pimping our players out?

If all this rings true, it seems we're no longer push overs as a selling club and simply taking the first offer that comes in - which fairly might have been warranted a few years back.
 

Grendel

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Which surely puts to bed any notion that some on here have of DB pimping our players out?

If all this rings true, it seems we're no longer push overs as a selling club and simply taking the first offer that comes in - which fairly might have been warranted a few years back.

Why does it put anything to bed? No one knows what any delay is for it could be nothing to do with the actual fee at all
 

djr8369

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I wish we had an owner who was a fan and would pump £20m extra in every year and never gets bored as much as most do. But let’s not pretend it’s “investment”.

Exactly.

People invest in SISU as a hedge fund, expecting decent returns, say 20%. They aren’t going to take however many millions from their fund and lump it into the club on a vague chance that we’ll get promoted.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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Why does it put anything to bed? No one knows what any delay is for it could be nothing to do with the actual fee at all
He's been reading the SBT Travel section view of Burnley and surrounding area and is waiting for Skye FC to come in with an offer.
 

Grendel

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He's been reading the SBT Travel section view of Burnley and surrounding area and is waiting for Skye FC to come in with an offer.

More like

“we are offering £5 million Dave”

“make it £3 million Vince”

“Eh?”

“than I’ll talk it up to £5m shows I drive a hard bargain”
 

Skyblueweeman

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More like

“we are offering £5 million Dave”

“make it £3 million Vince”

“Eh?”

“than I’ll talk it up to £5m shows I drive a hard bargain”

F&$king hell...your obsession knows no bounds.

What I should have said in my post is that it shows we're not just accepting the first offer that comes in. Happy now?!

Quick question - have you got a Weeman alarm? The 'Grendel Response to Weeman post' ratio, I would hazard a guess, is a lot higher than everyone else. I'm touched.
 

KenilworthSkyBlue

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Yeah but according to a few on here, the owners net input into transfers is zero and we've worked on player sales to fund new players.

If that's the case, he's not been backed for the last 5 years but is still here??

He has been backed... but by the club.

You seem to forget that the scope to reinvest sales into the budget would've been far greater back then due to much lower overheads, a less of a demand to pay decent fees for players and player turnover of course being much higher due to many being on shorter term contracts.

The first summer of L1 the club had received dividends from the PO run and promotion, a windfall from Maddison's sell-on clause, as well as McNulty being sold to Reading. That was a sizeable amount of revenue raised comparative to our turnover at the time, you'd think at over 50% at a guess, so you can see why there was scope to pay fees for players such as Bakayoko, JCH and Hiwula. Unsurprisingly that year SISU extracted significant funds totalling £1.6m from the club as well.

The following year Chaplin and Bayliss were sold, which also allowed Robins the means to purchase Godden.

The difference is now though we haven't received a windfall for a transfer since Wilson was sold two years ago and the last player sale was McCallum in January 2020.

The pattern is quite clear, without revenue generated from transfers the budget available for purchasing players just isn't there. Certainly not when this season wages are now 100% of turnover, transfer instalments are due for certainly one of Sheaf and Gyokeres but probably both, improvements have had to be made on the Ryton pitches, the club are stuck with players on significant contracts that seemingly can't be moved on, SISU could potentially extract funds to repay interest as they haven't done so in three years, and there's a £2.4m loan to the EFL in need of repayment by 2024.
 
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