O'Hare bids (3 Viewers)

KenilworthSkyBlue · Jul 18, 2022

Nick said:
How is it pedantic to point out we have paid a fee, to somebody saying we can't pay a fee to get themselves worked up that Robins is going to walk? (like people do every year).

People are actually making up scenarios now.

To be fair, he didn't actually say that though if you read the post.

He said the club seemingly this season can't manage to scrape even a fairly nominal fee together like we probably would've paid for Palmer, if we even paid a fee at all as there seems to be conflicting reports, without shipping players out.

Anyway he's probably not far off as presumably a proportion of any fee paid for Palmer, again if there was one, came from the Shipley sale and whatever shrapnel was generated from Drysdale.

Nick · Jul 18, 2022

KenilworthSkyBlue said:
To be fair, he didn't actually say that though if you read the post.

He said the club seemingly this season can't manage to scrape even a fairly nominal fee together like we probably would've paid for Palmer, if we even paid a fee at all as there seems to be conflicting reports, without shipping players out.

Anyway he's probably not far off as presumably a proportion of any fee paid for Palmer, again if there was one, came from the Shipley sale and whatever shrapnel was generated from Drysdale.

"Single Outgoing Fee"

You are just speculating, I am just saying we have had a single outgoing fee.

KenilworthSkyBlue · Jul 18, 2022

HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Didn’t Robins meet with Joy right before he signed his new contract? I’m pretty sure he’s gone into this with his eyes open.

He meets her for a debrief every summer I'd imagine.

So any notion that he's going to be caught off guard by a lack of reinvestment following a sale - presuming that's the case - is pretty ridiculous.

Deleted member 5849 · Jul 18, 2022

Nick said:
"Single Outgoing Fee"

Without sales

Esoterica · Jul 18, 2022

Nick said:
Again, Robins has been walking every season so far.

Not far enough then, he's getting larger every season.

Nick · Jul 18, 2022

Deleted member 5849 said:
Without sales

A made-up scenario to get angry then considering Shipley went towards the start of May for Undisclosed. Who do you think realistically costs more?

It just depends how you want to spin things.

Deleted member 5849 · Jul 18, 2022

Nick said:
A made-up scenario to get angry then considering Shipley went towards the start of May for Undisclosed. Who do you think realistically costs more?

It just depends how you want to spin things.

His quote was a single outgoing fee without sales. The second half is kind of important in his statement.

robbiethemole · Jul 18, 2022

Just tried looking on Burnley forums to see if anything is rumoured up there, what a fucking shambles, makes Luton’s look like Windows 22

No mention of O’Hare at all that I could see, maybe it’s all a figment of our imaginations

KenilworthSkyBlue · Jul 18, 2022

Nick said:
"Single Outgoing Fee"

You are just speculating, I am just saying we have had a single outgoing fee.

And that's fine but the poster isn't technically wrong regardless of what parts of the post you conveniently choose to crop to support your point.

Nick · Jul 18, 2022

Deleted member 5849 said:
His quote was a single outgoing fee without sales. The second half is kind of important in his statement.

Again, it's a scenario spun to try and get angry that Robins would walk.

It's like saying we wouldn't have brought Gyo and Sheaf in last year if we hadn't got rid of Marosi and Bremang.

KenilworthSkyBlue · Jul 18, 2022

robbiethemole said:
Just tried looking on Burnley forums to see if anything is rumoured up there, what a fucking shambles, makes Luton’s look like Windows 22

No mention of O’Hare at all that I could see, maybe it’s all a figment of our imaginations

I had a look on there the other day and made a swift exit after I saw one poster seriously suggest Michy Batshuayi on loan.

Brighton Sky Blue · Jul 18, 2022

KenilworthSkyBlue said:
I had a look on there the other day and made a swift exit after I saw one poster seriously suggest Michy Batshuayi on loan.

I'm sure he was suggested on here in the past year

better days · Jul 18, 2022

shmmeee said:
I don’t think we know the actual details for Palmer, heard undisclosed and free and free but we’re taking on his £20k/week ages for a year.

Bloody hell

SlowerThanPlatt · Jul 18, 2022

mr_monkey · Jul 18, 2022

SlowerThanPlatt said:

Maybe he got lied to by overson as well...
He has a hell of a lot to answer for

Old Warwickshire lad · Jul 18, 2022

Skyblueweeman said:
Yeah but according to a few on here, the owners net input into transfers is zero and we've worked on player sales to fund new players.

If that's the case, he's not been backed for the last 5 years but is still here??

I am one. I stated that SISU have made zero investment in the CLUB overall in the last 15 years.
All there in the accounts.

larry_david · Jul 18, 2022

Whatever happens from here we're putting up a stubborn fight. I thought he was gone but sounds like there's a way to go. If we get 9mill + we've done unbelievably well.

Frostie · Jul 18, 2022

Skyblueweeman said:
Yeah saw there were a few decent sized transfers but overall on the list that I saw on SSN, the majority were Free or Loans.

I wonder how that figures compare season on season as well?

Evo1883 · Jul 18, 2022

SlowerThanPlatt said:

The smallest bit of positive news so far in the whole saga

Skyblueweeman · Jul 18, 2022

larry_david said:
Whatever happens from here we're putting up a stubborn fight. I thought he was gone but sounds like there's a way to go. If we get 9mill + we've done unbelievably well.

Which surely puts to bed any notion that some on here have of DB pimping our players out?

If all this rings true, it seems we're no longer push overs as a selling club and simply taking the first offer that comes in - which fairly might have been warranted a few years back.

Tommo1993 · Jul 18, 2022

mr_monkey said:
Maybe he got lied to by overson as well...
He has a hell of a lot to answer for

What, Alan Nixon, “one of the best connected” in the EFL was regurgitating a nothing rumour? No, not having it.

Grendel · Jul 18, 2022

Skyblueweeman said:
Which surely puts to bed any notion that some on here have of DB pimping our players out?

If all this rings true, it seems we're no longer push overs as a selling club and simply taking the first offer that comes in - which fairly might have been warranted a few years back.

Why does it put anything to bed? No one knows what any delay is for it could be nothing to do with the actual fee at all

djr8369 · Jul 18, 2022

robbiekeane said:
I wish we had an owner who was a fan and would pump £20m extra in every year and never gets bored as much as most do. But let’s not pretend it’s “investment”.

Exactly.

People invest in SISU as a hedge fund, expecting decent returns, say 20%. They aren’t going to take however many millions from their fund and lump it into the club on a vague chance that we’ll get promoted.

Deleted member 5849 · Jul 18, 2022

Grendel said:
Why does it put anything to bed? No one knows what any delay is for it could be nothing to do with the actual fee at all

He's been reading the SBT Travel section view of Burnley and surrounding area and is waiting for Skye FC to come in with an offer.

mr_monkey · Jul 18, 2022

Tommo1993 said:
What, Alan Nixon, “one of the best connected” in the EFL was regurgitating a nothing rumour? No, not having it.

I know mate, I am shocked and appalled

Grendel · Jul 18, 2022

Deleted member 5849 said:
He's been reading the SBT Travel section view of Burnley and surrounding area and is waiting for Skye FC to come in with an offer.

More like

“we are offering £5 million Dave”

“make it £3 million Vince”

“Eh?”

“than I’ll talk it up to £5m shows I drive a hard bargain”

Skyblueweeman · Jul 18, 2022

Grendel said:
More like

“we are offering £5 million Dave”

“make it £3 million Vince”

“Eh?”

“than I’ll talk it up to £5m shows I drive a hard bargain”

F&$king hell...your obsession knows no bounds.

What I should have said in my post is that it shows we're not just accepting the first offer that comes in. Happy now?!

Quick question - have you got a Weeman alarm? The 'Grendel Response to Weeman post' ratio, I would hazard a guess, is a lot higher than everyone else. I'm touched.

KenilworthSkyBlue · Jul 18, 2022

Skyblueweeman said:
Yeah but according to a few on here, the owners net input into transfers is zero and we've worked on player sales to fund new players.

If that's the case, he's not been backed for the last 5 years but is still here??

He has been backed... but by the club.

You seem to forget that the scope to reinvest sales into the budget would've been far greater back then due to much lower overheads, a less of a demand to pay decent fees for players and player turnover of course being much higher due to many being on shorter term contracts.

The first summer of L1 the club had received dividends from the PO run and promotion, a windfall from Maddison's sell-on clause, as well as McNulty being sold to Reading. That was a sizeable amount of revenue raised comparative to our turnover at the time, you'd think at over 50% at a guess, so you can see why there was scope to pay fees for players such as Bakayoko, JCH and Hiwula. Unsurprisingly that year SISU extracted significant funds totalling £1.6m from the club as well.

The following year Chaplin and Bayliss were sold, which also allowed Robins the means to purchase Godden.

The difference is now though we haven't received a windfall for a transfer since Wilson was sold two years ago and the last player sale was McCallum in January 2020.

The pattern is quite clear, without revenue generated from transfers the budget available for purchasing players just isn't there. Certainly not when this season wages are now 100% of turnover, transfer instalments are due for certainly one of Sheaf and Gyokeres but probably both, improvements have had to be made on the Ryton pitches, the club are stuck with players on significant contracts that seemingly can't be moved on, SISU could potentially extract funds to repay interest as they haven't done so in three years, and there's a £2.4m loan to the EFL in need of repayment by 2024.

SlowerThanPlatt · Jul 18, 2022

There was a time where Grendel and this forum generally were seen as SISU sympathisers!

robbiethemole · Jul 18, 2022

So, know-nothing Nixon strikes again. I would rate even Grenners’ info above his

fernandopartridge · Jul 18, 2022

robbiethemole said:
So, know-nothing Nixon strikes again. I would rate even Grenners’ info above his

Was it transfer deadline day today? That's a relief

junglej13 · Jul 18, 2022

robbiethemole said:
So, know-nothing Nixon strikes again. I would rate even Grenners’ info above his

What's he said that's hasn't happened?

mr_monkey · Jul 18, 2022

junglej13 said:
What's he said that's hasn't happened?

Sorry alan

After what he did to the poor derby fans he should never be allowed to publish anything ever again

junglej13 · Jul 18, 2022

mr_monkey said:
Sorry alan

Wasn't he the one who broke the story, said they cooled their interest, then have come back after the sold Collins. Latest he's saying is that a fee isn't agreed yet.

Isn't this exactly the state of play?

Brighton Sky Blue · Jul 18, 2022

SlowerThanPlatt said:
There was a time where Grendel and this forum generally were seen as SISU sympathisers!

There was a time before then when Grendel under a different username said that Thorn 'took his SISU pay cheque and worshipped at the Temple of Seppalla'

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