One law for us and......... (2 Viewers)

[lifeskyblue]

The Muslim guy that Jesse Phillips was discussing issue with doesn’t even have children at the school so not sure how or why he was so involved.


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[Grendel]

tbh I didn't see it as left or right.

Pretty sure he didn't get endless hours of publicity out of it too. Why on earth is Farage being allowed to take over the airwaves? Maybe the BBC is biased after all! All those righties infiltrating it.

He has 10 times the popularity of Heidi Whatsername and Austerity Anna but he doesn’t get 10 times the coverage

 

[Deleted member 5849]

tbh I didn't see it as left or right.

Pretty sure he didn't get endless hours of publicity out of it too. Why on earth is Farage being allowed to take over the airwaves? Maybe the BBC is biased after all! All those righties infiltrating it.

Hmm, I may have picked the wrong thread!

Anyway, daft protest, that's getting plenbty of negative publicity for the protestors, and also police investigations. Not exactly one rule for one...

 

[lifeskyblue]

Just to show that Islam and Christianity are equally responsible in discriminating against certain groups



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[Deleted member 5849]

He has 10 times the popularity of Heidi Whatsername and Austerity Anna but he doesn’t get 10 times the coverage

His Party got 0% of the vote at the last election, and is getting %xinfinity more coverage than the Lib Dems, Labour... even the Tories beyond wheeling out old de Pfeffel as man of the people.

 

[Grendel]

His Party got 0% of the vote at the last election, and is getting %xinfinity more coverage than the Lib Dems, Labour... even the Tories beyond wheeling out old de Pfeffel as man of the people.

He’s news and he’s ahead in the polls. Cable has the charisma of a dead hamster - who’d want to be stuck in a lift with him. Before his rather unfortunate private life was laid bare Alec Salmond was very much the same. Charisma and popularity matter.

Many countries in Europe look set to be dominated in the elections by parties that make his look socialist

I wonder why that is

 

[skyblueinBaku]

Yet I know a few Russians - one from Voldograd actually and they are a fairly liberal bunch

When I worked (and then lived) over there, I found them to be very friendly and warm hearted. At the same time, they were extremely racist. The common word for people from the Asian republics was "chorno zhopie" (black arse). Another way to describe people from those republics was "chorkie" which means log of firewood ( a reference to their supposed intelligence). Asian republics were commonly referred to as "Chorkistan".

 

[Otis]

When I worked (and then lived) over there, I found them to be very friendly and warm hearted. At the same time, they were extremely racist. The common word for people from the Asian republics was "chorno zhopie" (black arse). Another way to describe people from those republics was "chorkie" which means log of firewood ( a reference to their supposed intelligence). Asian republics were commonly referred to as "Chorkistan".

Yep, agree with all that. Warm and friendly as people, but some of the views are entrenched in the past and my wife will not have a bad word said about Putin. She thinks he is wonderful and a lovely, lovely man.

 

[hill83]

I found them to be very friendly and warm hearted. At the same time, they were extremely racist.

Sound like an absolute set of arseholes to me and you couldn’t pay me to go there.

 

[CJ_covblaze]

Can’t say I’m in any rush to go back to that part of Russia.

 

[Astute]

tbh I didn't see it as left or right.

Pretty sure he didn't get endless hours of publicity out of it too. Why on earth is Farage being allowed to take over the airwaves? Maybe the BBC is biased after all! All those righties infiltrating it.

Yes the BBC is biased. They can't stop their reporters from putting their slant on things.

The idea of the news is reporting what is going on. Would you call it unbiased if they didn't mention Farage at all?

 

[Gazolba]

I think the problem is there is a fine line between teaching that something is acceptable and promoting what is being taught.
And treading that fine line totally depends on who is teaching it.
Personally, I think only academic subjects should be taught in school.
Anything else, let the parents teach it, or pay for private lessons.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

But isn't that how we end up with entrenched views on religion, homophobia, racism etc? The historic prejudices will remain as no-one outside of that family/social circle can put forward the counter argument. Still get it with class differences - middle/upper class people look down on the working class because they don't actually know anyone and only go on what they've been told by people in the same circle (who themselves don't know).

I'm not saying that letting the state/schools teach it is an answer, as they can put through just as entrenched views themselves but neither do I think it should be ignored by them. It needs all sides to be told and therein is where the problem lies - how to do that without bias.

 

[Sick Boy]

Yes the BBC is biased. They can't stop their reporters from putting their slant on things.

The idea of the news is reporting what is going on. Would you call it unbiased if they didn't mention Farage at all?

Yeah Laura Kuenssberg does seem to struggle at times when it comes to the Tories.

 

[Evo1883]

Alot of people actually agree that children shouldn't be learning about relationships etc at such a young age.
Including me

And we also shouldn't be normalising transgenderism, especially to children.
It's a mental illness
Fragile minds that don't need to suffer the absolute brainwashing.

 

[Evo1883]

Just to show that Islam and Christianity are equally responsible in discriminating against certain groups



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I wouldn't say equal, whilst there is a problem with every religion. Let's not try and make out that millions of women and children are not suffering due to sharia law compared to a few hundred, that's the difference.

 

[skybluetony176]

Alot of people actually agree that children shouldn't be learning about relationships etc at such a young age.
Including me

And we also shouldn't be normalising transgenderism, especially to children.
It's a mental illness
Fragile minds that don't need to suffer the absolute brainwashing.

The mental illness is a result of children trying to deal with transgenderism in a world intolerant of it. Transgenderism itself is not a mental illness.

 

[Evo1883]

The mental illness is a result of children trying to deal with transgenderism in a world intolerant of it. Transgenderism itself is not a mental illness.

It's Gender dysphoria, which is a mental disorder, keep children away from your bizarre beliefs, it's not normal

I know the world health organisation changed it from being a mental illness a couple of years ago, but let's be honest it's only because of the pressure to do so by the lunatic liberals, at the very best it's a health disorder, but it's unquestionably a state of mind ( mental health)

 

[skybluetony176]

It's Gender dysphoria, which is a mental disorder, keep children away from your bizarre beliefs, it's not normal

I know the world health organisation changed it from being a mental illness a couple of years ago, but let's be honest it's only because of the pressure to do so by the lunatic liberals, at the very best it's a health disorder, but it's unquestionably a state of mind ( mental health)

Not normal to who? Looney liberals. Lame.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Alot of people actually agree that children shouldn't be learning about relationships etc at such a young age.
Including me

And we also shouldn't be normalising transgenderism, especially to children.
It's a mental illness
Fragile minds that don't need to suffer the absolute brainwashing.

A lot of people may agree. It doesn't mean a lot of people are right. I think it kind of depends at what age you consider them learning it. Turning up in reception and being told it - no. By juniors - yes I think they'd definitely be able to cope with it. Very young kids are prone to ask awkward questions in a quest for knowledge like where do babies come from? What happens when you die? Is it that they're not ready for the answers (albeit softened up a bit) or that we as adults find it awkward to answer and so look to avoid doing so?

Fragile minds don't need brainwashing - what about the fragile young minds that are struggling to cope with going through it and having nowhere to turn, or worse being told they're not normal and should keep quiet?

My main gripe is with those of the LGBTQ community who constantly talk about verbal abuse/bullying etc when half of the time it's got nothing to do with their sexuality etc, just the fact they've got absolutely horrific personalities that crave attention and can't handle criticism and think they should be allowed to get away with being horrible to others without having to accept it back.

I do however agree it's a mental issue, but so is depression, anxiety etc. Should we go back to ignoring those issues too?

 

[Evo1883]

A lot of people may agree. It doesn't mean a lot of people are right. I think it kind of depends at what age you consider them learning it. Turning up in reception and being told it - no. By juniors - yes I think they'd definitely be able to cope with it. Very young kids are prone to ask awkward questions in a quest for knowledge like where do babies come from? What happens when you die? Is it that they're not ready for the answers (albeit softened up a bit) or that we as adults find it awkward to answer and so look to avoid doing so?

Fragile minds don't need brainwashing - what about the fragile young minds that are struggling to cope with going through it and having nowhere to turn, or worse being told they're not normal and should keep quiet?

My main gripe is with those of the LGBTQ community who constantly talk about verbal abuse/bullying etc when half of the time it's got nothing to do with their sexuality etc, just the fact they've got absolutely horrific personalities that crave attention and can't handle criticism and think they should be allowed to get away with being horrible to others without having to accept it back.

I do however agree it's a mental issue, but so is depression, anxiety etc. Should we go back to ignoring those issues too?

My point is, children at such an age should not even be open to such discussions, we have children being treated with hormones at ridiculous ages, its child abuse.

They aren't even old enough to know what the word all inclusive holiday means (proven by my 9 year old last night) let alone be taught that their genitalia doesn't equal your sexual identity.

Fucking bonkers, repulsive way to teach and treat kids full stop
Let them be kids and stop poisoning their minds with this shit

 

[Evo1883]

Not normal to who? Looney liberals. Lame.

It's not normal... Full stop

 

[Evo1883]

A lot of people may agree. It doesn't mean a lot of people are right. I think it kind of depends at what age you consider them learning it. Turning up in reception and being told it - no. By juniors - yes I think they'd definitely be able to cope with it. Very young kids are prone to ask awkward questions in a quest for knowledge like where do babies come from? What happens when you die? Is it that they're not ready for the answers (albeit softened up a bit) or that we as adults find it awkward to answer and so look to avoid doing so?

Fragile minds don't need brainwashing - what about the fragile young minds that are struggling to cope with going through it and having nowhere to turn, or worse being told they're not normal and should keep quiet?

My main gripe is with those of the LGBTQ community who constantly talk about verbal abuse/bullying etc when half of the time it's got nothing to do with their sexuality etc, just the fact they've got absolutely horrific personalities that crave attention and can't handle criticism and think they should be allowed to get away with being horrible to others without having to accept it back.

I do however agree it's a mental issue, but so is depression, anxiety etc. Should we go back to ignoring those issues too?

Hey, I have panic attacks and am classed as mentally ill.
Dave can put a dress on and call himself Shirley and he's normal.... I think you can see where this is going.
Looking at polls, surveys etc on tv shows, social media, speaking to people within your circle, people out and about, barely anybody supports this, it's being forced on us and our children by our government
World is going mad

 

[skybluetony176]

It's not normal... Full stop

Why?

 

[Evo1883]

Why?

Because its a mental health disorder, which would indicate its not normal, I thought that was pretty obvious.

It's not normal that I have panic attacks every night, and I get the relevant mental health assistance to help treat that

 

[Evo1883]

Why?

I don't know about you, I'm not happy for my children to be taught about transgenderism in primary school, not happy at all.if you think I'm a rare case, you arent paying attention

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

My point is, children at such an age should not even be open to such discussions, we have children being treated with hormones at ridiculous ages, its child abuse.

They aren't even old enough to know what the word all inclusive holiday means (proven by my 9 year old last night) let alone be taught that their genitalia doesn't equal your sexual identity.

Fucking bonkers, repulsive way to teach and treat kids full stop
Let them be kids and stop poisoning their minds with this shit

Why shouldn't they be open to such discussions? I agree that it shouldn't be 'forced' upon them, but if they ask the question should you ignore it? Is that for their benefit, or yours because you feel awkward?

Obviously the answer will have to be sugar-coated to a large degree as it's far too complex an issue for their minds (which work very much on a binary right and wrong basis) but I know people's kids who were infants ask "why are those two men holding hands?" and "why is that man wearing a dress?". Embarrassing for the parents but as they've asked they deserve an honest, if simplified, answer.

 

[skybluetony176]

My point is, children at such an age should not even be open to such discussions, we have children being treated with hormones at ridiculous ages, its child abuse.

They aren't even old enough to know what the word all inclusive holiday means (proven by my 9 year old last night) let alone be taught that their genitalia doesn't equal your sexual identity.

Fucking bonkers, repulsive way to teach and treat kids full stop
Let them be kids and stop poisoning their minds with this shit

Fuck me your mind is in the dark ages. You probably think electricity is wizardry.

 

[skybluetony176]

I don't know about you, I'm not happy for my children to be taught about transgenderism in primary school, not happy at all.if you think I'm a rare case, you arent paying attention

I’m thinking you’ve got some issues of your own that need addressing.

 

[Evo1883]

Why shouldn't they be open to such discussions? I agree that it shouldn't be 'forced' upon them, but if they ask the question should you ignore it? It's that for their benefit, or yours because you feel awkward?

Obviously the answer will have to be sugar-coated to a large degree as it's far too complex an issue for their minds (which work very much on a binary right and wrong basis) but I know people's kids who were infants ask "why are those two men holding hands?" and "why is that man wearing a dress?". Embarrassing for the parents but as they've asked they deserve an honest, if simplified, answer.

I do not want my child's mind tainted by the absolute madness that's deemed acceptable by the minority.

My children will learn about things as and when they are ready throughout growing up.

I send my children to school to learn academia, not the government's latest social justice push

 

[Evo1883]

I’m thinking you’ve got some issues of your own that need addressing.

Hey, I'm not the one here advocating poisoning children's minds, I'm advocating against it.
I think it's you who needs your own warped views addressing

 

[chiefdave]

Dave can put a dress on and call himself Shirley and he's normal.

That’s supposed to be a secret.

 

[Evo1883]

Fuck me your mind is in the dark ages. You probably think electricity is wizardry.

Not at all Tony, strangely not everybody has to tow the line and agree with everything that's put before us.
I'm happy for my children to learn about relationships between men and women, relationships between same sex couples, I do not want my child being taught that transgenderism is normal, telling kids that changing sex is normal, it's not... Full stop

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Hey, I'm not the one here advocating poisoning children's minds, I'm advocating against it.
I think it's you who needs your own warped views addressing

I'm very sorry that you have panic attacks, but your opinion on this issue is very regressive.

Are you suggesting you'd like your illness classified as 'normal'. And thus not get the help you need and deserve to cope with it? Personally I believe that mental illness is actually the norm and far more people suffer from some form of mental illness than don't.

But transgenderism is another kettle of fish entirely. I agree that these people should receive mental health support ahead of sex-change ops etc. It's not like after gender reassignment they're physically a man/women, just they more closely resemble one. But that doesn't mean the issue isn't real or normal. Like I also believe those people wanting breast enlargement should get mental health support rather than a surgeon - the problem isn't their tits, it's in their heads.

 

[skybluetony176]

Hey, I'm not the one here advocating poisoning children's minds, I'm advocating against it.
I think it's you who needs your own warped views addressing

You’re talking bollocks. I have a gay cousin, I was the first person in my family he came out to when we were both children, he lived a lie into his 20’s because of people within my family (namely his dad) that have the same mentality as you. He wasn’t educated into being gay he was born that way, it wasn’t being gay that tormented him into attempting suicide. It was pressure of denial and hiding it from Neanderthals like you that drew him to that. It was only a second near death experience (serious car crash) that drove him to stop living the lie and find the bravery to come out to the family. Some of my aunts and uncles seriously believe that he suffered permanent brain damage from the head trauma and that turned him gay.

You need to grow up and accept that some people are just born different to you.