So pay a bit too much to Higgs or lose a whole lot more at Sixfields. Tough choice. Is your own business thriving or losing money I wonder.
So pay a bit too much to Higgs or lose a whole lot more at Sixfields. Tough choice. Is your own business thriving or losing money I wonder.Because it isn't worth the full amount according to the Judge.
Answer what -- from you it will not be difficult.
I told you he would answer it IDM.
Doesn't make sense. But he answered it.
[/QUOTE]There are other sports in the uk that attract decent crowds that can play on a pitch... You really have a small town mentality and outlook on life.
QUOTE=Grendel;733374]Oh what is it? Tidlywinks?
You are not referring to kcic's offer to BUY the club are you which everyone laughed at.
Presumably because it was too much. Given that the club is officially worthless now that you've declared it.
Happy to see this. We don't have to be doing any cartwheels just yet and I totally get some people's more negative reactions, but it is a start, and that is always a good place to begin something new.
For anyone that has given Get Cov Back to the Ricoh stick for not protesting publicly against Sisu, or anyone who hasn't, I can tell you now that Stuart, myself and others* have been spending a lot of time recently questioning, pressuring, pleading and generally discussing with Sisu people (inc. Joy Seppala) with things focussed on a Ricoh return, re-engagement with fans & fan groups and not completely losing supporters.
I'm pretty drained from hours & hours on the phone and have a shit load of work to catch up on which has been pushed aside in the last few weeks but I'm happy that something new has happened. It's not a case of 'we did this' or anything like that because there are lots of other people who have been pushing too. We'll all have to keep on pushing to get things done and there's a long way to go yet and of course it could easily hit the buffers and we're back to square one.
But I'm fairly hopeful, if only because we have a big change in the approach of ones of the main protagonists in this saga.
We'll see.
* Stuart and I made a decision early on in our campaign that we would front it publicly so as to allow anyone else to be involved behind the scenes without having to get any grief from some of the more, er, 'forthright' people out there.
Because it isn't worth the full amount according to the Judge.
v) In January 2013 such an investor would have considered it likely that rent would be agreed with CCFC at £400,000 per annum. The Richard Ellis/PWC analysis would have valued valued the lease at £10.8m on that basis; but the private investor would have taken into account that the valuations were made as at March 2011 without the benefit of cost cutting and non-football income exercises that had intervened. He would have considered the value of ACL to be probably less than £14.4m, but probably more than £10.8m.
Rob. IMO there shouldn't be any negotiation until ACL's entirely reasonable pre-conditions have been met. SISU I think are trying to paint ACL into a corner by raising the prospect of negotiation without offering to withdraw legal action, and no doubt will paint ACL as baddies if they refuse to meet.
The letter once again makes the tiresome argument of We CCFC needs all matchday revenue" - this ignores:
1) CCFC sold these rights for a fair price, and won't pay this back to secure the revenues. You can't demand/claim revenues as their own when the ground is fairly owned by someone else
2) Tim shook hands on a £400k rent only to be vetoed by Joy - that was the first we heard of the need for the matchday revenues. Provides it is a smokescreen.
Rob. IMO there shouldn't be any negotiation until ACL's entirely reasonable pre-conditions have been met. SISU I think are trying to paint ACL into a corner by raising the prospect of negotiation without offering to withdraw legal action, and no doubt will paint ACL as baddies if they refuse to meet.
The letter once again makes the tiresome argument of We CCFC needs all matchday revenue" - this ignores:
1) CCFC sold these rights for a fair price, and won't pay this back to secure the revenues. You can't demand/claim revenues as their own when the ground is fairly owned by someone else
2) Tim shook hands on a £400k rent only to be vetoed by Joy - that was the first we heard of the need for the matchday revenues. Provides it is a smokescreen.
As I said, it's a start. Lots of scope for negotiation including negotiating what conditions need to apply before negotiations begin. There are no contracts left between ACL & CCFC so time to start working out some new ones. Just talk about it. Why Not?
FFS its about the value of the business -- without a total revenue equation it is a worthless asset in either ground.
Happy to see this. We don't have to be doing any cartwheels just yet and I totally get some people's more negative reactions, but it is a start, and that is always a good place to begin something new.
For anyone that has given Get Cov Back to the Ricoh stick for not protesting publicly against Sisu, or anyone who hasn't, I can tell you now that Stuart, myself and others* have been spending a lot of time recently questioning, pressuring, pleading and generally discussing with Sisu people (inc. Joy Seppala) with things focussed on a Ricoh return, re-engagement with fans & fan groups and not completely losing supporters.
I'm pretty drained from hours & hours on the phone and have a shit load of work to catch up on which has been pushed aside in the last few weeks but I'm happy that something new has happened. It's not a case of 'we did this' or anything like that because there are lots of other people who have been pushing too. We'll all have to keep on pushing to get things done and there's a long way to go yet and of course it could easily hit the buffers and we're back to square one.
But I'm fairly hopeful, if only because we have a big change in the approach of ones of the main protagonists in this saga.
We'll see.
* Stuart and I made a decision early on in our campaign that we would front it publicly so as to allow anyone else to be involved behind the scenes without having to get any grief from some of the more, er, 'forthright' people out there.
but long term, they wont be in "either ground", they are building a stadium where they will get as much of the revenues as they want, so this is a short term measure where they will get more income than playing northampton, whats the problem ?
Unless, unless Joys bluffing about the new ground?
no it couldn't be that, she's a Christian. thou shall not lie and all that.
She'd have been one of the first to be thrown out of the Temple.
its a good point. "thou shall not gamble doesn't" exactly mean go forth and set up a hedge fund.
yeah, christianity and the long-term accumulation of capital are completely in opposition. Do any of you gobshites actually bother to read stuff or is it all 'common sense' that you rely on? Cue camels and eye of needles moribundities.
yeah, christianity and the long-term accumulation of capital are completely in opposition. Do any of you gobshites actually bother to read stuff or is it all 'common sense' that you rely on? Cue camels and eye of needles moribundities.
It will always come back to who is going to make the first move and make that call to meet?
Statement after statement...but who will actually send an invite with date time and venue!
Happy to see this. We don't have to be doing any cartwheels just yet and I totally get some people's more negative reactions, but it is a start, and that is always a good place to begin something new.
For anyone that has given Get Cov Back to the Ricoh stick for not protesting publicly against Sisu, or anyone who hasn't, I can tell you now that Stuart, myself and others* have been spending a lot of time recently questioning, pressuring, pleading and generally discussing with Sisu people (inc. Joy Seppala) with things focussed on a Ricoh return, re-engagement with fans & fan groups and not completely losing supporters.
I'm pretty drained from hours & hours on the phone and have a shit load of work to catch up on which has been pushed aside in the last few weeks but I'm happy that something new has happened. It's not a case of 'we did this' or anything like that because there are lots of other people who have been pushing too. We'll all have to keep on pushing to get things done and there's a long way to go yet and of course it could easily hit the buffers and we're back to square one.
But I'm fairly hopeful, if only because we have a big change in the approach of ones of the main protagonists in this saga.
We'll see.
* Stuart and I made a decision early on in our campaign that we would front it publicly so as to allow anyone else to be involved behind the scenes without having to get any grief from some of the more, er, 'forthright' people out there.
Rob, did you ever issue a set of minutes, or at least a summary of your 6 hour meeting with joy?
Might help the credibility of your group if we saw these, and can then judge for ourselves if we see it's had some effect.
Also, when the KCIC "offer" was made, there was a lot of concern on here about who was behind it. People wanted to know who the players were for lots of reasons.
I think the same questions can be asked of you now given you made a point of it in your post. So, who are these other people "behind the scenes" that you and Stuart are hiding/protecting from all of the "forthright" people on here?
Les Reid. It's blatantly Les Reid. In fact, it's so much Les Reid that I expect Rob to reply to this post with some insults and a vague, though ultimately inaccurate, accusation of libel.
The fact that the guy seems to genuinely think that he did this (and that "this" is something new) is both hilarious and a little sad. Played like a fiddle and the song's still going my man.
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