fernandopartridge
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Go and have a look at a few planning apps and have a look at the tone of planning officers' emails to applicants. Can't remember ever seeing anything as fluffy as the one to Wasps' advisors.
Go and have a look at a few planning apps and have a look at the tone of planning officers' emails to applicants. Can't remember ever seeing anything as fluffy as the one to Wasps' advisors.I thought that this Kurt Russell was a planning officer rather than the head of planning, and I'd have thought part of his job is to help people progress their planning applications, but then I'm not an award winning journalist, so I'm probably wrong.
Gilbert is not a journalist. Reid, who has won awards and is being proposed for two more this year due his campaigning, was dismissed by the organisation beached he did not toe the line. But he won a settlement.
There’s no reason at all why Coventry can’t host two top-class sports clubs
Why do I waste so much of my life reading this drivel?
You can always rely on 'journalist of the known universe'
Les 'youcouldntmakeitup-ButIwill' Reid to pack his even handed, well reasoned argument with lots of facts and referenced sources.
Wibble
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Wasps claim they examined ’17 sites’ but settled on the location of the Sky Blues’ purpose-built academy at the Alan Higgs Centre. Council emails – disclosed to this newspaper follow our Freedom of Information request – show secret negotiations began with planning officers last October, with the Sky Blues’ lease set to expire next June.
The arguments about the Green belt are good though, there is definitely an attempt to ignore the original justification.The crucial over-riding Local Plan in its current form also places the Higgs Centre in the Green Belt, despite councillors’ attempts to remove it in the forthcoming Local Plan. It appears the vitality of Coventry City’s youth academy was among the ‘very special circumstances’ on which planning permission was originally granted for the Higgs centre in the Green Belt more than a decade ago.
I haven't seen a well reasoned post from you interestingly enough. Why not put an argument against it?Why do I waste so much of my life reading this drivel?
You can always rely on 'journalist of the known universe'
Les 'youcouldntmakeitup-ButIwill' Reid to pack his even handed, well reasoned argument with lots of facts and referenced sources.
Wibble
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No reason at all.
Looking forward to CRFC getting right up there.
No reason at all.
Looking forward to CRFC getting right up there.
If all the coventry people who go to the wasp's games had supported The coventry Rugby Club they would not be in the dire straights financially they are in nowThis thread just sums up the attitude of Sisu.
We can't/won't do it so nobody should do it.
There is room for both in Coventry but CCFC management need to be more proactive. Wasps are going nowhere so people/Sisu need to understand this and concentrate on how CCFC can survive 'with' them rather than moan about it and play victim.
If all the coventry people who go to the wasp's games had supported The coventry Rugby Club they would not be in the dire straights financially they are in now
And, are there any fans in the country who would actually encourage it?
I couldn't agree more.It is very odd isn't it.
It's all very well saying the club should build their own facility - but the club cannot, they don't have the resources. Only SISU can do that, and they won't as we know. Yet for some the number one priority is to see SISU shafted which just adds another straw to the camel's back. Carry on like this and CCFC will just implode.
I think Les makes some good points and he's also spot on with those on Social Media (and here) that will blame the Club at any costs. Italia, Captain Dart Brylowes, tim07, Orca, Armybike...there's a list of them who continually lay the blame at the door of CCFC whilst conveniently forgetting what other organisations have done to us.
Kurt Russell (I didn't think he escaped from New York) basically asking Wasps to come up with something to make it not seem so bad is breathtaking. The fact CCC can shaft it's incumbent club is also breathtaking. Is there another authority in the Country that would do this to its team? And, are there any fans in the country who would actually encourage it?
The blame is on SISU not CCFC, they and the fans are victims, you don't see me attacking Venus or Mowbray (unlike Grendel), they're labouring under the conditions imposed upon them by the owners, they're not perfect but they're competent, which is something I do not think SISU are.I think Les makes some good points and he's also spot on with those on Social Media (and here) that will blame the Club at any costs. Italia, Captain Dart Brylowes, tim07, Orca, Armybike...there's a list of them who continually lay the blame at the door of CCFC whilst conveniently forgetting what other organisations have done to us.
It is very odd isn't it.
It's all very well saying the club should build their own facility - but the club cannot, they don't have the resources. Only SISU can do that, and they won't as we know. Yet for some the number one priority is to see SISU shafted which just adds another straw to the camel's back. Carry on like this and CCFC will just implode.
It is very odd isn't it.
It's all very well saying the club should build their own facility - but the club cannot, they don't have the resources. Only SISU can do that, and they won't as we know. Yet for some the number one priority is to see SISU shafted which just adds another straw to the camel's back. Carry on like this and CCFC will just implode.
The blame is on SISU not CCFC, they and the fans are victims, you don't see me attacking Venus or Mowbray (unlike Grendel), they're labouring under the conditions imposed upon them by the owners, they're not perfect but they're competent, which is something I do not think SISU are.
I, for one, don't want to see SISU shafted as the main priority. I want SISU to come up with the goods. Turn up at meetings- even if just to take away the arguments of others, or build a stadium, or show how the Butts could work, or sign a deal with Wasps, or build a category 2 training centre or anything at all that moves us forwards.
I think most people would prefer SISU saving the day, to constantly getting shafted in legal matters- although I am pleased that they do lose an some occasions, as I hope that will force them back to trying to find a way out for the club as opposed to maybe winning some money and possibly dropping the club.
The blame is on SISU not CCFC, they and the fans are victims, you don't see me attacking Venus or Mowbray (unlike Grendel), they're labouring under the conditions imposed upon them by the owners, they're not perfect but they're competent, which is something I do not think SISU are.
Completely agree with this. You would like to think it isn't true but the longer this goes on the clearer it becomes that its not tin foil hat territory. CCC were involved in another court case recently that had some striking similarities to our situation.Whoever said “This is a plan to eradicate, destroy and cripple Coventry City Football Club by a non-Coventry originating entity, it shows spite and a lack of loyalty and the loss of young talent will be a great loss to Coventry to the benefit of neighbouring cities” has got it spot on.
I thought that this Kurt Russell was a planning officer rather than the head of planning, and I'd have thought part of his job is to help people progress their planning applications, but then I'm not an award winning journalist, so I'm probably wrong.
That's the key, are other applicants being treated similarly and advised on managing their PR as Wasps are?Didn't Ann Lucas say that Wasps arrival in Coventry would not be to the detriment of either the football club or the existing rugby club? Allowing Wasps to take over the Higgs site certainly seems to be to the detriment of CCFC.
That's the one.Was that the charity court case?
Yeah, surprisingly not much media coverage.That's the one.
The blame is on SISU not CCFC, they and the fans are victims, you don't see me attacking Venus or Mowbray (unlike Grendel), they're labouring under the conditions imposed upon them by the owners, they're not perfect but they're competent, which is something I do not think SISU are.
Completely agree with this. You would like to think it isn't true but the longer this goes on the clearer it becomes that its not tin foil hat territory. CCC were involved in another court case recently that had some striking similarities to our situation.
That's the key, are other applicants being treated similarly and advised on managing their PR as Wasps are?
I did as Fernando suggested earlier in the thread and read a few other mails that Kurt Russell had sent in respect of other people's applications. I'd say he treats others similarly, he is doing his job as one of many planning officers, he seems to want to give applicants the best chance they can of getting fair representation. I haven't seen where he has advised Wasps with their PR.That's the key, are other applicants being treated similarly and advised on managing their PR as Wasps are?
I think Les makes some good points and he's also spot on with those on Social Media (and here) that will blame the Club at any costs. Italia, Captain Dart Brylowes, tim07, Orca, Armybike...there's a list of them who continually lay the blame at the door of CCFC whilst conveniently forgetting what other organisations have done to us.
Kurt Russell (I didn't think he escaped from New York) basically asking Wasps to come up with something to make it not seem so bad is breathtaking. The fact CCC can shaft it's incumbent club is also breathtaking. Is there another authority in the Country that would do this to its team? And, are there any fans in the country who would actually encourage it?
While you're at it, ask yourself why CCFC aren't prepared to invest in delivering this model at Ryton,
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Hey, thanks for adding me to this list of sages.... Captain Dart, Armybike, Italia, Orca.....Venerable company indeed. I'll wear this badge with pride.
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