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cathedraltospare · Feb 23, 2013

This

http://stats.football365.com/dom/ENG/D2/ptslost.html

Heard various fans criticise various players/aspects of our team. The one fact that is most striking is the way the team throws points away. It's a terrible record. Particularly for a team that are decent for this league and lying in 8th.

If we had held on to just half of these points we'd be 4 points clear at the top before the run in.

The new manager can do whatever he likes but if I were him then this would be my main priority. Confidence, discipline, concentration, winning mentality. Whatever it is they have to fix it.

Covstu · Feb 23, 2013

not surprise really, I still never feel confident when we score. We can never kill off games...

cathedraltospare · Feb 23, 2013

even throwing away 14 points would be pretty poor and would see us bottom half of this stats table - but it still be enough to put us top!

Covstu · Feb 23, 2013

agree but I guess every club can say this in some form.

stupot07 · Feb 23, 2013

6 clean sheets in 34 league games.

Nonleagueherewecome · Feb 23, 2013

I'd say out utter inability to defend set-pieces or the counter-attack is ultimately what's wrong with our team. Add an inability to convert chances and it's no wonder we are unlikely to make the play-offs.

searmh · Feb 23, 2013

Those stats would hint at a mentality problem...agreed that this will have to be addressed by New boss

sw88 · Feb 23, 2013

Nonleagueherewecome said:
I'd say out utter inability to defend set-pieces or the counter-attack is ultimately what's wrong with our team. Add an inability to convert chances and it's no wonder we are unlikely to make the play-offs.

Inability to both defend and attack set pieces!

Nonleagueherewecome · Feb 23, 2013

sw88 said:
Inability to both defend and attack set pieces!

They were poor again at the other end today-it's one aspect at least in which Fleck improves the team.

cathedraltospare · Feb 24, 2013

Covstu said:
agree but I guess every club can say this in some form.

not doncaster - look, they have only thrown away 2 points all season. 2! against our 28.

MusicDating · Feb 24, 2013

I think we've thrown away more points than any other club in England.

dongonzalos · Feb 24, 2013

Defending set pieces

Otis · Feb 24, 2013

That first goal of theirs yesterday was shocking.

How a player can volley in like that in the 6 yard box from a corner is beyond belief.

Edge at fault. If you put the vid on pause the ball was there to be headed out and for some reason Edge went for it with an outstretched leg.

2nd goal was just awful marking.

CJparker · Feb 24, 2013

Sadly this is not news...we are leading the whole football league in terms of points thrown away.

When you consider that this happened last season, suddenly it's quite hard to blame Thorn! I agree we must have some kind of weird culture going on that makes us weak when going ahead

dongonzalos · Feb 24, 2013

Otis said:
That first goal of theirs yesterday was shocking.

How a player can volley in like that in the 6 yard box from a corner is beyond belief.

Edge at fault. If you put the vid on pause the ball was there to be headed out and for some reason Edge went for it with an outstretched leg.

2nd goal was just awful marking.

Edj doesn't do set pieces Malaga did

Otis · Feb 24, 2013

More points thrown away from winning positions than any other team yet we think we can win 8 games out of 12?

The defence wasn't good enough last season and it's not good enough this. That is why we keep throwing points away.

We need 2 new centre backs.

ohitsaidwalker king power · Feb 24, 2013

Otis said:
That first goal of theirs yesterday was shocking.

How a player can volley in like that in the 6 yard box from a corner is beyond belief.

Edge at fault. If you put the vid on pause the ball was there to be headed out and for some reason Edge went for it with an outstretched leg.

2nd goal was just awful marking.

Otis look again I don't think it was Edge... may have been Leon.. Edge(25) is nearest to camera in that group of 3 isn't he? Clarke(15) and Cameron had that "zone" on the pitch. However I am more concerned about the 2nd... freeze the frame as the ball is received by the player who knocks it onto the Goalscorer and look at our defensive "line"... its a diagonal running from the left back to the right back... about a 30 degree angle.. with Edge and Dickie miles out of position.

Otis · Feb 24, 2013

It was Edge I'm pretty sure. Unless my eyes are failing me.

I freeze framed it and he sticks a leg out when he could have quite easily headed it away.

Otis · Feb 24, 2013

MusicDating said:
I think we've thrown away more points than any other club in England.

That's another thing that's just occurred to me. Had we not thrown away even half those points no-one would be moaning about Leon Clarke and his work rate or whether he is lazy or not.

It's our defence that has let us down time and time again.

It's almost as if we now have to score at least 2 goals a game to win.

ohitsaidwalker king power · Feb 24, 2013

Otis said:
It was Edge I'm sure.

I freeze framed it and he sticks a leg out when he could have quite easily headed it away.

Nope... got it on freeze frame now... its Leon with Cameron turning his back somewhat...Edge isn't to blame.. well bloody hell.. after defending him like we have on other threads seems like he is culpable after all.... useless Leon is... get him out

Otis · Feb 24, 2013

I deleted it after watching it so can't check.

If it was Leon then I need my eyes testing. Fact is the ball could have been quite easily headed clear. A player should never be able to volley the ball in, in a crowded penalty area from a corner.

It's just terrible defending.

stupot07 · Feb 24, 2013

Their player got inbetween Clarke and edge, however it looks like he was making a forward runs from edges is position and when he scores none of their players are near edge, I'm 99.9% certain he was edges man.

Black6Osprey · Feb 24, 2013

Our defence has been poor all season. We had a period where we were scoring plenty of goals so it didn't matter and we all forgot about how slow Wood is and how inconsistent Edge is and our full backs were being caught out of position. Now we are back to scoring the odd goal in a game our defence are being found out. This season is officially over in my eyes and only a real optimist would think otherwise.

Otis · Feb 24, 2013

Yep, totally agree.

We have won no more than 2 games in a row all season.

We now need to win something like 4 or 5 and we haven't even got a manager.

Barring 2 wins out of Bournemouth and Swindon this week, our season is over.

LoyalSupporters · Feb 24, 2013

Paulo Di Canio would bring something the club alright!

Otis · Feb 24, 2013

He also takes things away in the dead of night.

LoyalSupporters · Feb 24, 2013

Otis said:
He also takes things away in the dead of night.

Hopefully he doesn't kidnap our players.

Otis · Feb 24, 2013

Well not Clarke anyway.

He'd end up in concrete slippers.

cathedraltospare · Feb 24, 2013

it means Donny have NEVER lost a match after going ahead this season. Can you imagine how that feels?

ohitsaidwalker king power · Feb 24, 2013

cathedraltospare said:
it means Donny have NEVER lost a match after going ahead this season. Can you imagine how that feels?

Sadly no I can't imagine it... some record that is though.. like others I feel we now have a mountain to climb if we are to achieve a play off spot.. not impossible but improbable... fact is we are just not good enough in certain areas.. defensively being a case in point which is why perhaps with the players we have we ought to think of another way to play... 5-3-2/3-5-2 anyone? is a question I posed on this thread... my theory is based on players we have and our inability to bring players in..

http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threa...lues-to-adopt-5-3-2-3-5-2?p=376647#post376647

dongonzalos · Feb 24, 2013

I liked the 5 3 2 idea with wing backs with Adams not sure with Dickinson.

Mucca Mad Boys · Feb 24, 2013

dongonzalos said:
I liked the 5 3 2 idea with wing backs with Adams not sure with Dickinson.

With what 3 CBs? Bar Wood, there're all a liability and even Wood can be dodgey.

Grendel · Feb 24, 2013

SkyBlue_Taylor said:
With what 3 CBs? Bar Wood, there're all a liability and even Wood can be dodgey.

That I agree with. The thought of Cameron and edjuingele covering out of position wing backs is not a pleasant one.

Otis · Feb 24, 2013

Been discussed on another thread.

3-5-2 is something we should definitely consider.

cathedraltospare · Mar 2, 2013

http://stats.football365.com/dom/ENG/D2/ptslost.html

now gone to 31 points thrown away.

Complete, utter, joke.
going to check how that compares with the other divisions...

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