dongonzalos
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Too funny
Can you please quote what the sisu spokesman is quoted in the article as saying?
So we had 20k against Leeds?
Leeds did not have 8k at all. It was 6k all that end holds as shown when Leicester filled it opening day of the 2012 season.
6k then, still depends on how many were sitting in the home end.
Haven't admitted you were wrong yet about the time we were in the top 6 for?
6k then, still depends on how many were sitting in the home end.
Haven't admitted you were wrong yet about the time we were in the top 6 for?
So for the 2010/11 season we were in the top six pretty much consistently for half a season until the new year and we only had attendances of:
Portsmouth 18.8k
Derby 13.1k
Leicester 20k
Preston 14.9k
Doncaster 12.3k
Cardiff 14.6k
Barnsley 14.5k
Leeds 28.1k
Burnley 14.4k
Middlesborough 15.7k
Norwich 15.2k
Yet we're slapping high fives around because of the Leeds attendance, who sold out their allocation, Portsmouth and Leicester both brought a lot of fans too IIRC.
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So for the 2010/11 season we were in the top six pretty much consistently for half a season until the new year and we only had attendances of:
Portsmouth 18.8k
Derby 13.1k
Leicester 20k
Preston 14.9k
Doncaster 12.3k
Cardiff 14.6k
Barnsley 14.5k
Leeds 28.1k
Burnley 14.4k
Middlesborough 15.7k
Norwich 15.2k
Yet we're slapping high fives around because of the Leeds attendance, who sold out their allocation, Portsmouth and Leicester both brought a lot of fans too IIRC.
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Same with Boro last season? 15-17k for most games before picking up massively with the last few home games to take the average to 19k. Or, have you got a reason for them?
wasn't it front page of the telegraph telling people to get to the game?But people are saying with we get into the top 6 we will get 20-25k+ in league one, when we have proof that it didn't happen in the championship.
Re: Leeds you've also got to factor in the reaction to Leeds selling out their allocation, fans that wouldn't normally go thinking that it will be a big game and a good atmosphere on the back of a sold out away allocation.
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What were the attence for the second half of the season?
6k then, still depends on how many were sitting in the home end.
Haven't admitted you were wrong yet about the time we were in the top 6 for?
But people are saying with we get into the top 6 we will get 20-25k+ in league one, when we have proof that it didn't happen in the championship.
Re: Leeds you've also got to factor in the reaction to Leeds selling out their allocation, fans that wouldn't normally go thinking that it will be a big game and a good atmosphere on the back of a sold out away allocation.
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The only comparable I can find is CCFC vs Shrewsbury 15k attendance, we were 10 games unbeaten but 10th (?) I think? So if you want to go by that...
6k then, still depends on how many were sitting in the home end.
Haven't admitted you were wrong yet about the time we were in the top 6 for?
That was either New Year's Day or Boxing Day wasn't it - always a big crowd.
Well I didn't really know how big the away end at the Ricoh was when I said 8k, if its 6k as you say then no I don't think there were 8k.So you think there was 2k Leeds fans in the home end? Surely not...not even you...
OK I admit I was wrong however you'd hate for our club to be successful wouldn't you because then you couldn't criticise attendances and then probably move onto the players.
Out of interest, who else's support do you consider poor then? Or just ours?
So it wasn't because we were playing well it was because it was New Year's Day?
You're going to take a little bit of stick for being over optimistic here but for those who say this is wide of the mark it would be completely uncharted territory to be flirting with the play offs, would it not ?
I don't think 20,000 would be unreasonably, given the success starvation period we have undergone (28 years isn't it ?)
Not at all, there is a big 'if' in my first sentence and the tone of the 2nd sentence is somewhat sardonic for good reason.
I'm actually with you on the attendances, Jack.
It seems to me that what I am reading here is that some people want to rule out the bigger crowds because other big teams bring lots of supporters, so it doesn't count- ie Leeds. There may have been 28,000, but it doesn't really count because there were over 6000 Leeds fans and , besides, its just lots of city fans "jumping on the bandwagon." 22000 home fans doesn't count because its "not normal."
Therefore we shouldn't include any attendances that are against some bigger teams (Sheffield United) because they bring a fair few and there many be a few more city fans and they are just to watch the big teams.
In the Championship we shouldn't include matches against the likes of Leicester, Bimingham, Leeds, Bristol City, Derby , Forest, Sheff Wed, Wolves.
In the Premiership we should exclude almost all, apart from Swansea and a couple of others, because all the other teams are big and most fans at the Ricoh come to see them and not City.
Of course, it's not the same for other clubs at their home grounds, is it ?
Well it counts but in the context of the Leeds match its clearly not the norm as the games before and after that were relatively poor despite us still being in the top 6.
I think you've completely missed the point tbh, we're not a well supported club for how big our fans think we are.
...and how big do you assume supporters think our club is ? From the reaction on here I'd say it's the opposite.
As far as dismissing the Leeds match as clearly not the norm please enlighten me as to why you think there were 28,000 there .
It was built up in the local media (when we had a newspaper that was interested in the club) as a big game with a big away following. No one denies that some people in Coventry enjoy an occasional big day out.
Leeds sold out there allocation so then a few extras decide to go as think it will be a good day. Then the fixture is massively hyped and the bandwagoners and snowball effect takeover....and how big do you assume supporters think our club is ? From the reaction on here I'd say it's the opposite.
As far as dismissing the Leeds match as clearly not the norm please enlighten me as to why you think there were 28,000 there .
Leeds sold out there allocation so then a few extras decide to go as think it will be a good day. Then the fixture is massively hyped and the bandwagoners and snowball effect takeover.
If it was the norm, then surely there would have been 22k Cov fans there the next match and further matches?
Would you have been happier with 15,000 at that game ?
Would you have been happier with 15,000 at that game ?
No but to use it as an example of our incredible support is silly as it is a one off.
Our support was still relatively poor 14-16k when we were challenging for the play offs.
Was it a sustained challenge for the play offs, or was it one of those moments where we just begin to believe. I can't remember a concerted challenge.
So what you're saying is, if we're 3rd play off looking certain with 2 homes games to go, we will get 25k+, but if we're third at Christmas we'll only get 12-13k as its not a sustained challenge?
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We don't have to be third - anywhere in the top 6 with 2 home games to go I would expect crowds pushing towards 20k . I don't recall ever saying we will get 25k, because I don't believe that in this division we could get that many. That was someone else on another thread.
Was the time we played Leeds a genuine sustained challenge for promotion ?
We were pretty much top 6 for the first half of the season, I would say that is a sustained challenge for promotion, yes, things tailed off but we were not to know that they would tail off at the time.
...I've been watching them since the mid 1970's so I knew it would tail off. It always does. And therein lies the problem !
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...if we are top of the league at xmas we'll get more than 12-13K, especially if we've been sniffing around there from the start. Now that would be bloody good wouldn't it ?
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