Brighton Sky Blue
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Either way this is Bidwell’s last season here.
Either way this is Bidwell’s last season here.I think that's probably a change in coaching and want's of an impatient fan base TBF,for one so solid last season it's the on thing I can think of,or his legs are going which I don't think is the case.
Give it five games I think it be ironed out.
Don't agree Pete, thought he was very safe all gameEccles passing through the lines at times was sensational helped by rudoni and others finding space
That’s what I mean I think depending on one’s attitude to torp or eccles all the errors were one or the other they weren’t and all the excellent play was one or other they weren’tDon't agree Pete, thought he was very safe all game
To be fair they get Haji and Torp mixed up along with others all the time, Clive even called Stoke Sunderland at one pointCWR get them mixed up all the time.
Yup.You’ve misread what I said
This. Not sure what people want or are expecting. We played exciting pacey football last night, created chance after chance, had 26 attempts at goal and scored 3.I'd go 7s all round bar Wright and MVE who get 8-9
I spotted that too. He gambled in the player cutting back and got it wrong (twice) and basically let the player run past him. Need to be more alert to the offside for their goal too.You did see their second? He got done twice in the build up and then played the lad onside. I like Torp, he’s got some real quality on the ball, but he’s got to adapt to the championship.
Treat people with kindnessBig talk for a loser that’s been bullied so bad they had to make a new account
Quite shocked to see so many didn't rate torp .. thought he was very good , Eccles was the biggest problem in midfield .
Mr 4 yard pass never look forward never take a risk ... drove me mad
I thought they both had good games.
Disagree with your last line though. Mr 4 yard pass had the (joint) most number of progressive passes of anyone and in terms of progressive passing distance had the most of anyone in the front six (and twice as many as Torp).
The 4 yard pass stat perfectly summed up his evening
Lati too. Maybe he really is blind?Torp getting a 5 lol
I don't think so given he made over 1200 yards of passes at an average of 19 yards per pass.
33% of those were progressive passes, Torp made only 17% progressive passes.
You are of course entitled to your opinion but the stats say the opposite.
KangaBooshDovin 4
MVE 9
Lati 5
Binks 5
Bidwell 5
Torp 2
Eccles 5
Sakamoto 6
Rudoni 5
Wright 8
Simms 6
The stats also suggests Eccles played more forward passes than Jack rudoni .. unfortunately for the stats most of us with eyes can see what's being played infront of us
Stats do not and never will account for situations nor do they account for wether players are under pressure etc etc etc .
Josh eccles often failed to see the pass that would have got us forward quicker , he failed to play rudoni in about 7 times alone
I think it's a criticism of most lads in a way,the belief to reverse the play,play safe predictable passes and have the opponents pants down became apparent to me in last night's first half.That could also include a pass 10 yards under zero pressure and into 10 yards of space with nobody around the receiver.. point is josh Eccles persistently played the way he was facing, rarely took the ball onto his back foot to move it forward at the right time slowing us down massively and certainly missed many opportunities to play the ball In dangerous areas lacking the confidence to try play the ball which was a bit more brave.
The 4 yard pass stat perfectly summed up his evening
Eccles played the same number of forward passes as Rudoni. Eccles obviously had a higher distance of forward passes because he plays in a deeper position.
Of course I agree with you that stats don't tell the whole story and don't account for whether a player was under pressure and so on.
But to me they show that Eccles was comfortably the more progressive of the two midfielders.
100% this. Massive improvement on last season already, he needs to keep this side of his game up as it really does help usEccles passing through the lines at times was sensational helped by rudoni and others finding space
The stats also suggests Eccles played more forward passes than Jack rudoni .. unfortunately for the stats most of us with eyes can see what's being played infront of us
Stats do not and never will account for situations nor do they account for wether players are under pressure etc etc etc .
Josh eccles often failed to see the pass that would have got us forward quicker , he failed to play rudoni in about 7 times alone
does beg the question why you are listening to 5live?Listening to 5Live this morning, it's as if nothing exists outside the Prem. Not the briefest mention! Twats
It was a very freaky goal, because it shouldn't have been a free kick in the first place, then the delivery from the free kick was actually very poor and then the ball bounced off Simms' shins.Just watched the Sky highlights back at their first goal - Binks not challenging for the header when the ball first came in was the primary mistake, but then Simms was waiting for it to bounce and missed his kick, when he should have taken one pace forward and got his head on it. Poor all round - but the shot was really well placed.
The bouncing off Simms happened from him trying to take a touch instead of booting it clear. Which is another reason against bringing back centre forwards for defensive duties.It was a very freaky goal, because it shouldn't have been a free kick in the first place, then the delivery from the free kick was actually very poor and then the ball bounced off Simms' shins.
We had lots of chances to clear it though.
YepThe bouncing off Simms happened from him trying to take a touch instead of booting it clear. Which is another reason against bringing back centre forwards for defensive duties.
To be fair to him I like me and you he stares at stats and doesn’t attend matches
The bouncing off Simms happened from him trying to take a touch instead of booting it clear. Which is another reason against bringing back centre forwards for defensive duties.
Fair enough. Though I think if you want a quick counter, having a teammate or two already advanced up the pitch, as opposed to having everyone in the ‘chasing pack’ running up it would be easier. That and allowing the other team to pack the box works in their favour from an attacking perspective.I’m nowhere near as offended as you are at the idea of having everyone back for corners/defensive set pieces (and assume part of the thinking is to give opportunity for a quick break), but someone of Simms’ nature should be front post at corners and in the wall for a FK. Wouldn’t even say he’s that good in the air.
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