You're supposed to be the rabid marketeer. If a business or industry can no longer sustain itself then it should die and be replaced by one that can. And whose to say there aren't transfer fees attached to those clauses? Post Bosman every club should factor in they could lose a player for nothing. If the business model is such that it could so easily fail as I say it needs to be made more robust.
Besides everyone domestically is in the same boat due to reduced TV money so if a player left on a free it'd still be the same situation regarding his wages elsewhere - he wouldn't get what he did before. If a foreign league gets better TV money and they go abroad then that's the market at work. No-one here was complaining when the Spanish and Italians were coming over here to play for the higher wages were they.
Plus we're in a relatively weak position finance wise so it'd be much better for CCFC to see wages and transfer fees come down in the higher divisions.
Are you on a wind up?
If you really don't get it then maybe you ought to consider whether or not you actually understand capitalism, especially in it's purest form.
I'm talking about the power of the TV companies.You are deluded. The Premier league will play a full season next season even if they have to play behind closed doors. They will not under any circumstances surrender their wealth - the arsenal ex chairman once famously said we don’t need fans we need Sky. Down the pyramid the leagues are demanding the season be cancelled. Your plan would put every club out of business other than the big elite who’d tough it out and create a super league of a few clubs
I'm talking about the power of the TV companies.
I'm talking about Sky etc not putting in the same bids for TV rights they have done. If they don't and no-one else is willing to offer it what are the clubs going to do? Force them to up their bids? Not going to happen. They'd have to accept the market rate and adjust wages/transfers accordingly.
As for a super league of a few clubs - is that not what the PL is on a domestic basis? It's been inevitable for some time that eventually the Champions League will morph into a European league, and in many years to come probably a global one. That is more likely to have individual TV rights deals for each club like Barca/Madrid.
Other option is it would become a 'franchise sport' like the NFL making it effectively a closed shop, but with the option of kicking a team out in favour of another who had better earning potential, like the FTSE.
Plus you say the PL will play a full season next year. How do you know this? How do you know we won't get a second wave needing lockdown and isolation in Oct? Or next Mar? What if a player contracts the virus - that team would have to postpone any games in the next week or so to be certain it hadn't spread through the team. If it did spread to a few teams league would have to be postponed for a period. No certainties whatsoever about next season. In fact there's far more uncertainty over that one than this because this one only has a small part of the season to go - that one's got every single game yet to be played.
Im talking about the fact that if you put your proposal to the FL it would be laughed at as about as sensible as a David Ike conspiracy theory
It’s not happening in a million years - let it go.
The only proposal I've put forward is we finish this season off, then go from there depending on the timescale decide to either play the 2020/21 season if timing allows or go forward into 2021/22 if we don't. Yep, utter lunacy.
The other options being we either cancel this as if it never happened or call it as finished by some arbitrary measure not set out in the rules to start next season, which has a distinct possibility of facing exactly the same problems as this one. So end up with two 'unfinished seasons' and with it a damaged reputation and product that will affect it's earning potential going forward.
It's not my idea that's not sensible, it's the business model of spending pretty much all your income (or in some cases more) on wages that go out of the game immediately and almost never return. It's a house of cards that will collapse eventually when the TV companies decide they're not offering the big deals anymore as it's not making them money. That will happen - it's just a matter of when. And when it does the players and clubs are going to have to accept lower wages and transfer fees or become insolvent practically immediately.
You suggested extending the season even into next season which clubs have said would bankrupt them at the lower levels
I think a lot along the lines of S B D I do just wonder when the next bidding comes up where will the opposition to Sky come from? How well will all the possible bidders come out of these times many big company that I would not have expected to be struggling are .It might just be when they(Sky) look around they might find that they are able to put in far smaller bids. If this season does not finish properly the product is tarnished and worth less.
Eh? Netflix and other streaming services are already getting involved and have infinitely deep pockets
That is how it will start the hope will be that no participant brings the virus that would f--k everything upThere remains the obvious answer of starting behind closed doors games
Not to mention Amazon
Exactly - it’s now a bidding war and Sky and their dominance are under threat - these people are clueless
Sky haven't been dominant in TV football since BT bought their crown
Just as an aside, I saw City play at Partick Thistle many years ago. It was a pre-season friendly, around 1980, part of a tour of Scotland when we also played at (I think) Motherwell and Dumbarton. I remember trying to find Firhill Park by following signs in Glasgow for Partick. It turned out that they actually play some distance away in Maryhill, which we found to be virtually all derelict and flattened. The stadium stuck out, as did a single pub which was apparently run by ex-Scotland keeper Alan Rough. He was certainly ideally named for the area!
The likes of dreamer must have been asleep for the last few years. It’s embarrassing
Exactly - it’s now a bidding war and Sky and their dominance are under threat - these people are clueless
Eh? Netflix and other streaming services are already getting involved and have infinitely deep pockets
Grendel thanks read it, but like with everything else that artical was 6 or 7 weeks ago like i said things are changing at an alaming rate . The 2 incidents I quoted would have been unheard of last week let alone 6 weeks ago as Mr Dylan sang 56 years ago "The times they are a changin"
Except that clearly football will return at some point and when it does demand for watching it will be astronomical
That isn't Netflix. It's using Netflix as an example everyone will have heard of to explain what the intention is.
It’s a steaming service that want a slice of the pie. If anything this crises will grow the money demanded by the PL not reduce it
It will most definitely get a boost for the short term as it's been gone a while (like new season boost to numbers) then it will tail off. Like me - I'm really starting to wish I could go to the chippy but if it reopened and I had it everyday for a week I'd soon become tired of it and not want any for months.
I think streaming will be the way forward as bigger clubs get their bigger share as more people stream their games than others but there is only a finite amount of people who are willing to watch and how much they're willing to pay. But with this competition is the increased risk of one of the competitors defaulting and overstretching themselves. That would be far more disastrous than reduced bids.
It’s a steaming service that want a slice of the pie. If anything this crises will grow the money demanded by the PL not reduce it
Your thinking of KeithFor years I thought the team were named after some Irish bloke - Patrick Thistle :emoji_thinking:
Nope. Don't get it. :emoji_worried:Your thinking of Keith
I'll get my coatNope. Don't get it. :emoji_worried:
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