Paying for Godiva Festival / Council Overspend (1 Viewer)

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Richardson had long gone when the council took on the project. I didn't bother reading after that.

I consider the MM/GR part of the BR era. To be entirely clear I should have just used pre-SISU.
 

shmmeee

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Say it every year, but the Godiva jumped the shark when they tried to get big time.

Get rid of all the crap, have shitty bands playing in a field to the entirety of Coventry pissed/stoned out their box.

Fuck the outsiders. Fuck Roman fucking Keating and fuck trying to make it fucking Glastonbury.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Apart from the bits you missed out and got wrong.

Accurate otherwise though.

Don't claim it's a complete run down of the saga, but it covers the most salient parts compared to the original transcript.

At the start the council bent over backwards to get the stadium started and completed, filling in for some extremely shit decision making by our then owners and poor fortune (ITV digital). Shame is they don't seem to have learnt their lesson from that with this Godiva Festival/Ricoh gig business.
 

Nick

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Say it every year, but the Godiva jumped the shark when they tried to get big time.

Get rid of all the crap, have shitty bands playing in a field to the entirety of Coventry pissed/stoned out their box.

Fuck the outsiders. Fuck Roman fucking Keating and fuck trying to make it fucking Glastonbury.
I'm boycotting since I can't walk about with a boiling hot crate of Carling to last me the day on my shoulder
 

clint van damme

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Say it every year, but the Godiva jumped the shark when they tried to get big time.

Get rid of all the crap, have shitty bands playing in a field to the entirety of Coventry pissed/stoned out their box.

Fuck the outsiders. Fuck Roman fucking Keating and fuck trying to make it fucking Glastonbury.

Disagree. It was kicking off all over the shop in the 2 or 3 years before it changed to its current format and I saw families caught up in it.
Much better how it is now.
 

chiefdave

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Most big concerts like this usually work with a big national promoter, why were CCC going it alone on this? Seems completely amateurish
Absolutely crazy for CCC to go into a hugely competitive business with zero experience expecting to be able to make a go of it. Plenty of people with years of experience lose a lot of money on live events.

Another one of those odd coincidences that they just happened to decide to do this when it involved handing over money to Wasps to hire the Ricoh, never bothered with it when they actually owned the place.
 

chiefdave

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Don't think they can just whack a charge on what they currently do. They'd lose a huge amount of PR as it would no longer be the UKs biggest free music festival. They'd be better off reworking it as something similar to Victorious in Portsmouth. £70 for 3 days but you get the likes of The Libertines and The Prodigy playing.
 

AJB1983

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Wasps don’t put on the concerts, the promoters put on the concerts and hire the venues.
If ronan keating wasn’t gonna sell out the exhibition hall then it’s not bailing out wasps is it by having him perform at Godiva, it’s bailing out the promotors so they don’t have to cancel the gig. Wasps would have made money from the gig had it happened, as they went Godiva they made nowt..
I went to see ash at the Ricoh - didn’t sell enough tickets for the hall so in the end the gig was in the Eon Lounge.... would ronan keating have done that? Doubt it.
Still, any excuse to have a dig at wasps eh.
 

chiefdave

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Wasps don’t put on the concerts, the promoters put on the concerts and hire the venues.
If ronan keating wasn’t gonna sell out the exhibition hall then it’s not bailing out wasps is it by having him perform at Godiva, it’s bailing out the promotors so they don’t have to cancel the gig. Wasps would have made money from the gig had it happened, as they went Godiva they made nowt..
The question remains, why have CCC suddenly decided to start staging concerts and, as you say, pay Wasps a hire fee? They've not done that in all the years they part owned the Arena.
 

shmmeee

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Disagree. It was kicking off all over the shop in the 2 or 3 years before it changed to its current format and I saw families caught up in it.
Much better how it is now.

Fair enough. I never saw any trouble, I found it far more enjoyable when it was a Cov thing not trying to be a national festival. Each to their own. Find it soulless and dull now.
 

clint van damme

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Fair enough. I never saw any trouble, I found it far more enjoyable when it was a Cov thing not trying to be a national festival. Each to their own. Find it soulless and dull now.

I've been to a lot of festivals and wouldn't go out of my way to travel to a festival with this type of format in a million years.
But given where it is I think this format is fine. Remember, the perimeter fence and metal detectors were introduced for a reason.
 

Nick

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It's interesting that people who are outraged about legal fees for the taxpayer seem to defend this.

Wouldn't be so bad if they were half decent acts.

Is it just another one of those co-incidences that the Council because Gig Organisers after Wasps are there but didn't when they owned half of it?
 

chiefdave

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It shouldn't be that hard to get sponsorship for a major event like this. Then add in parking charges, produce some decent merchandise and you should be able to cover the shortfall. Have the council even tried going down that route?

Although it does raise the question if there was an overspend this year due to all ill thought out plan to stage gigs at the Ricoh why do we then have to make it chargeable every year? Are the planning to make the same mistakes every year from now on?
 

Nick

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It shouldn't be that hard to get sponsorship for a major event like this. Then add in parking charges, produce some decent merchandise and you should be able to cover the shortfall. Have the council even tried going down that route?

Although it does raise the question if there was an overspend this year due to all ill thought out plan to stage gigs at the Ricoh why do we then have to make it chargeable every year? Are the planning to make the same mistakes every year from now on?

Maybe the sponsorship couldn't help sort Wasps out with a bit so it wasn't thought of? ;)
 

Nick

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chiefdave

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You couldn't make this shit up. The council basically sticking two fingers up to everyone again. Hot on the heels of the current leader informing us he can make up whatever rubbish he likes to suit him as they never get pulled up on it.
 

christonabike

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I like Ann Lucas she reminds me of this..
"I do not know anyone who has got to the top without hard work. That is the recipe. It will not always get you to the top, but should get you pretty near."





Margaret Thatcher said that!:woot:
 

Sky Blue Pete

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You couldn't make this shit up. The council basically sticking two fingers up to everyone again. Hot on the heels of the current leader informing us he can make up whatever rubbish he likes to suit him as they never get pulled up on it.
Current leader isn’t John mutton
 

SBAndy

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Just seen on the news that there are plans to charge for parking at this year’s Godiva (which begs the question why this hasn’t been done before) but also charging anyone who lives outside Coventry. Ridiculous and doubt they’d even be able to police it.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Just seen on the news that there are plans to charge for parking at this year’s Godiva (which begs the question why this hasn’t been done before) but also charging anyone who lives outside Coventry. Ridiculous and doubt they’d even be able to police it.

I really don't know how you'd get people to prove they were or weren't residents in Coventry. Are they going to check everyones ID on the way in. Do you have to bring your council tax bill or a utilities bill (even though most are now paperless)? Mad idea. You'd either have to charge everyone or no-one, but if you charge everyone I think attendances would plummet without attracting some big current acts.
 

chiefdave

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I really don't know how you'd get people to prove they were or weren't residents in Coventry. Are they going to check everyones ID on the way in. Do you have to bring your council tax bill or a utilities bill (even though most are now paperless)?
They tried this when they had some sailing race in Portsmouth that the taxpayer had to stump millions up for. I was living there at the time and you just had to put your postcode in on Ticketmaster. You can imagine it didn't exactly go as planned and most of the free (or they might have been cheap not totally free) tickets were quickly up on eBay and they couldn't shift the full price tickets.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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But quite a few times in the past we've had people not know if they were going to go until the very last minute. If you don't have the option to just walk-up on the day I know a lot of people just won't bother. And if they make walk-up an assumption that you're not from Coventry and you have to pay that'll easily make their decision for them.
 

AJB1983

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The question remains, why have CCC suddenly decided to start staging concerts and, as you say, pay Wasps a hire fee? They've not done that in all the years they part owned the Arena.

It’s a fair point, one I wondered about too.
Can’t answer that one.
 

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