Senior Vick from Alicante
Well-Known Member
Is any one else as sick of hearing this self serving over opinionated herbert as I am. I am a 44 year old white english male who has been going to football matches since the early 70s and have only ever come accross the so called racism that is endemic in our game at a cov game once, I can even remember the night. We were playing West Ham in the first leg semi final against West Ham and some idiot on the kop shouted insults at Gary Thompson when we went 2-0 down.
I think I am more fortunate than my forebears in relation to religion and colour of skin, just by the fact that when I went to school it was with the first real children of the first immigrants in to this country. I was lucky enough to count among my friends black, asian, indian and pakistani freinds. I believe men of my age are more tolerant racialy then our fathers and grandfathers because of this, the actual out and out racists are about 1% of the general population. I do believe the FA have done loads to combat the problems these 1% bring to the modern game, how many supporters that attend todays games have heard the disgracefull chants that our under 21 lads sufferd?
In all walks of life you will always have the idiot that spoils it for the rest of us, but The Society of Black Lawyers is tarring us all with the same brush. If a Totenham fan wants to refer to himself as a YID, because this is what he thinks identifies him with his fellow fans then I dont perseave this as racist. In fact i believe it to be the opposit, these fans are reclaiming a slang word back as their own. What Peter Herbert fails to realise is the more he inflicts his ill informed oppinion on us the more the likes of the Spurs fans will retaliate, do the Russian Football Federation take offence with Liverpool or Man U if they sing red army because it may derogatory towards communism. Football is tribal, always has been and always will be were the sky blue army its our identifying song the same as Spurs sing Yid army.
I am not a racist it is not acceptable in any forms what so ever, so why are not the likes of Mr Herbert and his colleagues voicing their concerns over the things that really matter to people of colour in football? Why arnt they asking for better intagration of all people of colour in football, why are their so little asian or indian players in the game, or lack of coloured managers. These are the real questions that they should in my opinion be asking, not jumping on the hot topic of the moment, he has never voiced his opinion of the sectarianism that goes on at games between the old firm has he.
Their you go rant over and if any thing I have said has offended any one I appologies but I am sick of the nanny state and it always being forced down our throats, I would be really interested in hearing the non white middle class opinion on this if any one has any thoughts. PUSB
I think I am more fortunate than my forebears in relation to religion and colour of skin, just by the fact that when I went to school it was with the first real children of the first immigrants in to this country. I was lucky enough to count among my friends black, asian, indian and pakistani freinds. I believe men of my age are more tolerant racialy then our fathers and grandfathers because of this, the actual out and out racists are about 1% of the general population. I do believe the FA have done loads to combat the problems these 1% bring to the modern game, how many supporters that attend todays games have heard the disgracefull chants that our under 21 lads sufferd?
In all walks of life you will always have the idiot that spoils it for the rest of us, but The Society of Black Lawyers is tarring us all with the same brush. If a Totenham fan wants to refer to himself as a YID, because this is what he thinks identifies him with his fellow fans then I dont perseave this as racist. In fact i believe it to be the opposit, these fans are reclaiming a slang word back as their own. What Peter Herbert fails to realise is the more he inflicts his ill informed oppinion on us the more the likes of the Spurs fans will retaliate, do the Russian Football Federation take offence with Liverpool or Man U if they sing red army because it may derogatory towards communism. Football is tribal, always has been and always will be were the sky blue army its our identifying song the same as Spurs sing Yid army.
I am not a racist it is not acceptable in any forms what so ever, so why are not the likes of Mr Herbert and his colleagues voicing their concerns over the things that really matter to people of colour in football? Why arnt they asking for better intagration of all people of colour in football, why are their so little asian or indian players in the game, or lack of coloured managers. These are the real questions that they should in my opinion be asking, not jumping on the hot topic of the moment, he has never voiced his opinion of the sectarianism that goes on at games between the old firm has he.
Their you go rant over and if any thing I have said has offended any one I appologies but I am sick of the nanny state and it always being forced down our throats, I would be really interested in hearing the non white middle class opinion on this if any one has any thoughts. PUSB
