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oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
Think all she has said so far is that he didn't plan it and wont call it murder

"It follows that the accused's erroneous belief that his life was in danger excludes dolus. The accused therefore cannot be found guilty of murder, dolus eventualis. That however is not the end of the matter, as culpable homicide is a competent verdict," said Judge Masipa

The final judgement could take a while to come out yet. He hasn't been found not guilty as yet
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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It's absolutely crazy to me to suggest that upon firing 4 shots through a door you did not foresee that the person on the other side would be killed.
 

Ashdown

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It's a farce, he's an actor. He may not have premeditated this murder for days but I'm pretty sure he pre meditated it long enough for it to be premeditated !
 
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Houchens Head

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I said he was guilty from the start. The bloke is a loose cannon. A nutter where guns are concerned. They had an arguement, he threatened her, she ran to the bathroom to lock herself away from his temper. He picked up his gun, went to the bathroom and shot through the door at her. Case closed M'Lud!
 

Bugsy

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Agree wiv houchey, Its crazy, course its murder, im sorry but how can any judge justify who eva was behind the bathroom door, wouldnt be dead, reeva ør an intruder op fired 4 shots intending to kill the person. In my opinion
 

lewys33

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This is where people get confused with the law. There was not enough proof to categorically state it was murder. Whether you think it was or it wasn't is irrelevant.
 

Covstu

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There will be some loophole he will exploit, clearly he has a cracking legal team. He was guilty as sin and amazed he got off with murder but he certainly cannot get away from manslaughter (but to what degree!)
 

dutchman

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Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
They'll probably put an ankle tag on him so they know where he is at all times :thinking about:
 

Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
He has said in his defence that "it was my first offence". Yeah, right. It was Hitlers first offence, it was the Yorkshire Rippers first offence, it was Idi Amin's first offence. Now don't get me wrong, but this was murder/manslaughter - not nicking a Mars bar from a shop!
 

sw88

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He had one intention; to kill that person behind the door, whom ever it may have been. Wife, intruder, it doesn't matter; the intention was there. Why else would he have gone with that weapon otherwise, and why fire it so many times? Was always going to do more than just scare them off!
 

Grendel

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Of course he will. He can still get up to 15 years.

There is every possibility that it will be significantly less than that.

Its a case I'm afraid of a white celebrity receiving significantly favourable treatment in South Africa. Hopefully if the sentence is low then the prosecutors will lodge an appeal.
 

stupot07

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It's difficult for us in the UK to be objective, we don't understand their culture or gun laws, which like America are very different to ours. They way they think when someone breaks into their house if different to us.

For us owning a gun is alien, let alone firing one in your own home.

Whether he had intensions to kill her or not, it's down to the prosecution to prove beyond reasonable doubt that he did. His version of events were feasible, even though he was found to be an unreliable witness, it cast doubt. It didn't help that the prosecution witness were equally unreliable and inconsistent.

We will never know the real truth.


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turlykerd

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I don't understand all the accusations on here after he was found not guilty of murder ??

There is nothing wrong at all with firing off a few at a bathroom door ?

It's was just a terrible accident that his gf was holding it closed behind her.not expecting ol stubsy to be playing bam Bam with his toys :(
 

dutchman

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It's difficult for us in the UK to be objective, we don't understand their culture or gun laws, which like America are very different to ours. They way they think when someone breaks into their house if different to us.

Except there were no signs of any break in.

Whether he had intensions to kill her or not, it's down to the prosecution to prove beyond reasonable doubt that he did.

So it's 'reasonable' to assume that - when sharing a house with someone else - if woken by someone using the bathroom in the middle of the night they must be an intruder who is armed and likely to inflict immediate serious injury on its occupants?
 

lewys33

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There is every possibility that it will be significantly less than that.

Its a case I'm afraid of a white celebrity receiving significantly favourable treatment in South Africa. Hopefully if the sentence is low then the prosecutors will lodge an appeal.

I know, hence why I said up to. Although it is ridiculous that he has been bailed. Hopefully that is the last of his freedom! Unfortunately I think you may be right about favourable treatment though.
 

lewys33

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Totally.

Sabrina was not the gang's "intended" victim in the same way that Pistorious claims* that Reeva was not his intended victim.

*Not that i believe him.

Yes but they DID plan on murdering the intended victim. It has not been proven that Pistorious planned to murder the so called "intruder". The 2 stories have no similarities what so ever.
 

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