You want noise
I was asking but the smiley things aren't working at the moment.I agree.
I'm just being clear that it's pointless trying to come up with reasonable objections that stand a fighting chance.
If there's a way to do that, I'll do that... else I'll write them a suitably long-winded ranty (ultimately pointless) objection, that'll at least take them up some time to read!
So in your view, objections to the site are ultimately futile to get any application rejected (there are no grounds that could be used for that) but may at least make some noise?
With regards making noise, they do form part of the papers linked with the application but if it went before the Planning Committee they'd only get an abridged overview of the comments and only the points of objection that fall within the list of relevant objections would be included.
The noise is not in relation to planning. Noise as in noise,disturbance etcAs a general over view, the following are deemed as possible legitimate reasons for objections to planning applications -
However, these aren't
- Loss of light or overshadowing
- Overlooking/loss of privacy
- Visual amenity (but not loss of private view)
- Adequacy of parking/loading/turning
- Highway safety
- Traffic generation
- Noise and disturbance resulting from use
- Hazardous materials
- Smells
- Loss of trees
- Effect on listed building and conservation area
- Layout and density of building
- Design, appearance and materials
- Landscaping
- Road access
- Local, strategic, regional and national planning policies
- Government circulars, orders and statutory instruments
- Disabled persons' access
- Compensation and awards of costs against the Council at public enquiries
- Proposals in the Development Plan
- Previous planning decisions (including appeal decisions)
- Nature conservation
- Archaeology
- Solar panels
As I suspect most of the objections would be around "Personal morals or views about the applicant" then these points/comments would not impact on the process.
- The perceived loss of property value
- Private disputes between neighbours
- The loss of a view
- The impact of construction work or competition between firms
- Restrictive covenants
- Ownerships disputes over rights of way
- Fence lines etc
- Personal morals or views about the applicant.
As the site is already used for sports and so there wouldn't be need for a change of use on the site, it would be difficult to demonstrate the proposed development is detrimental (in the wider sense - not specify towards the academy).
With regards making noise, they do form part of the papers linked with the application but if it went before the Planning Committee they'd only get an abridged overview of the comments and only the points of objection that fall within the list of relevant objections would be included.
The noise is not in relation to planning. Noise as in noise,disturbance etc
Yep, aware of that and my reply is regarding this - sending in countless emails, letters, comments saying Higgs/CCC are a bunch of back-stabbers won't have any impact on the application process.
They've be added to the file, uploaded to the portal and not referred to again as such comments don't fall within the objections criteria.
Archaeology is an interesting one in that list...
I assume the site is nowehere near the old Grange itself?
However, we could always say it's a site of great historic interest and see if that works!
You've told Sisu. You'll have to let me know how that goes…Nothing wrong in telling Sisu I wont be attending if the stadium is stuck at 15,000..
Helps them make the right decision.
Thanks. :kiss:The walk up bit is one of the reasons I like the Ricoh. But feel free to quote it at any opportunity.
Ok. But that's not what you said so thanks for clarifying!For the record I would attend a stadium anywhere in the Coventry area providing it can be expanded to PL capacity when required.
I would also attend a smaller (non expandable) stadium if it was shown, without doubt, that the club needed to do it to survive.
Out of interest, is there time after the objections to expand on any objections?
Ernseford Grange is (strange, I know!) a site of historic interest. Naturally, building a sodding great housing estate on it doesn't help the cause! But, all around there, with the Grange and then the old Craven land has a past.
John Clarke (ex CCFC director) has an interest in Coventry history (Caludon Castle was his book), so maybe he'd like to do some research
The headline is the start, the art is to pursue it and see if it's feasible and within the academy rules which apparently can be stretched.
Nothing wrong in telling Sisu I wont be attending if the stadium is stuck at 15,000..
Helps them make the right decision.
The walk up bit is one of the reasons I like the Ricoh. But feel free to quote it at any opportunity.
For the record I would attend a stadium anywhere in the Coventry area providing it can be expanded to PL capacity when required.
I would also attend a smaller (non expandable) stadium if it was shown, without doubt, that the club needed to do it to survive.
I'm in Llandudno and I can still smell your bullshit from here.
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Now this might sound a little naive, but why can't we go out and build a new academy? We're all talking about out own stadium and the add on revenue stuff required like conference and hotel facilities etc. etc.
Why don't we just go out find a location (should be much easier as it will be so much smaller an area needed), build an academy, but also include some of the things we need to generate income, so therefore open for public events in the evenings when there is nothing else the club has on?
Be less investment needed and will help secure our future, even if only temporary for now. Wouldn't stop us looking for a new stadium or attempting to secure a deal at the Ricoh.
We could even work with an existing club such as Cov Sphinx, or Bedworth or Cov Rugby, making it a deal where they get to benefit too from much improved facilities.
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I like the sound of it Otis. But it would involve first having an idea, and then investing some money to carry it out. When was the last time CCFC did that, I mean actually do something to help ourselves?Now this might sound a little naive, but why can't we go out and build a new academy? We're all talking about out own stadium and the add on revenue stuff required like conference and hotel facilities etc. etc.
Why don't we just go out find a location (should be much easier as it will be so much smaller an area needed), build an academy, but also include some of the things we need to generate income, so therefore open for public events in the evenings when there is nothing else the club has on?
Be less investment needed and will help secure our future, even if only temporary for now. Wouldn't stop us looking for a new stadium or attempting to secure a deal at the Ricoh.
We could even work with an existing club such as Cov Sphinx, or Bedworth or Cov Rugby, making it a deal where they get to benefit too from much improved facilities.
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I like the sound of it Otis. But it would involve first having an idea, and then investing some money to carry it out. When was the last time CCFC did that, I mean actually do something to help ourselves?
But how will it help the situation if I stay away ?
The threat has happened the question is how we make the best of it.
We can try and bring Wasps down to our level or bring ourselves up to their level.
I suggest a lot on here would sooner we both fail. Highlighted by people effectively saying we should ignore the Wasps olive branch in regards the Higgs.
Can you find a picture of our new stadium please.BREAKING NEWS: WASPS have built the new state of the art kicking barn has part of their high tech training base.....
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Here you go...Can you find a picture of our new stadium please.
Wasps aren’t building anything @ Alan Higgs. Deal off the table.
It's a new barn because the old one is becoming a swimming pool.Yeah I didn't mean Wasps. I mean there is meant to be a barn/dome, whatever you want to call it being built at the Higgs for Coventry's Academy.
We?It's a new barn because the old one is becoming a swimming pool.
CCFC will rent it just like we will.
It was an olive branch at the time, given when he application went in and the academy was under threat.Some Italia gems in this thread - this is one of them
Not half as much as you when you get a bit desperate it seemsIt was an olive branch at the time, given when he application went in and the academy was under threat.
Are you desperate for attention ?
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