Allowing for the obvious 'this won't really happen' stuff, I'd have liked a lot of the stuff they're claiming in place of what we have/had at the Ricoh. Having it primarily as a football venue that's the entire hub for the team including facilities that can be hired is a good idea, and one of the downers of the Ricoh was our lack of identity, it was mad that we had to press to even get the club crest put up.
(I get it's all lip service and just a flight of fancy, but they have addressed some good points within the fabrication)
Yeah that'd be fine...if it looked halfway decent!
Just doesn't... inspire. And forget the politics, our owners are supposed to be in the business of inspiring.
Rather than a big fat meh of a negotiating tactic.
Allowing for the obvious 'this won't really happen' stuff, I'd have liked a lot of the stuff they're claiming in place of what we have/had at the Ricoh. Having it primarily as a football venue that's the entire hub for the team including facilities that can be hired is a good idea, and one of the downers of the Ricoh was our lack of identity, it was mad that we had to press to even get the club crest put up.
(I get it's all lip service and just a flight of fancy, but they have addressed some good points within the fabrication)
YEah, that was the annoying thing with the Ricoh. Lack of income notwithstanding but the fight to even have our crest up on the outside of the building. I don't know about being tenants it was almost like we were sleeping on a mates' sofa.
i'd rather doss on a mates sofa than jump into bed with sisu.YEah, that was the annoying thing with the Ricoh. Lack of income notwithstanding but the fight to even have our crest up on the outside of the building. I don't know about being tenants it was almost like we were sleeping on a mates' sofa.
You mean the pictures of it? Seems fairly bog-standard modern stadium fare to me, you'd have to go with the wacky designs to stand out nowadays. The new 49ers stadium being built is one of the only ones that actually stands out, everything's the same now.
Having it primarily as a football venue that's the entire hub for the team including facilities that can be hired is a good idea, and one of the downers of the Ricoh was our lack of identity, it was mad that we had to press to even get the club crest put up.
I dunno, still think the council's wisest next move would be to help them out in finding some land personally, let's see who pushes this furthest(!)
But I knew I'd seen that design somewhere before.
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The early plans for the new Brentford stadium that were since shelved for an upgraded version.
"Mr Rogers said he was unable to put a figure on the cost of construction or the potential size of any site at this stage"
I think Labovitch who has just been on skyports has slandered the council, be very interesting their response to some of the accusations he has just made on Sky
Architects don't care about budgets!
Architects don't care about budgets! They just want to show how their vision expresses their artistic philosophy as well as how we interact with our fellow man in today's modern society. We can all agree nothing does that better than vomitories and car parks.
Stop posting this crap it's not helpful to debate. The club have turned down several offers of revenue sharing and offers to negotiate for more.
We could be perfectly viable at the Ricoh if our owners wanted it.
It's not crap, they have offered to cross invoice so that on paper our revenues look bigger but in fact brings no actually cash into the club, which means that money will need to be invested to meet fan expectations.
In our championship relegation season 9 teams had lower attendances that us, only 3 teams had lower turnovers (exl. Parachute payments and transfers in).
With our biggest average attendance income (£5.7m 21.3k) we'd still have only around half the turnover of the likes of Reading and Southampton had when they got promoted.
http://swissramble.blogspot.co.uk/2013/08/championship-finances-201112-numbers.html?m=1
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I know three architects. They all concur, although Art Vandelay is argumentative.
Oh revenues matter and were not right previously you'll get no argument there.
But ACL have stated repeatedly that they are willing to negotiate further revenues if the club wants (ignoring the rights to 100% of football income Sisu threw away with the rent strike). To claim that "the revenues are not available" IS crap.
No the original offer was for cross invoicing, plus the ACL have got themselves tied into a poor deal with compass, where they only make a measly 10% profit on F&B's..how?.
This new ground is not the answer but neither is renting the Ricoh with no access to revenues.
stupot is running rings around you shmeee
you a council fanboy.
Merry Christmas
Rather a council fanboy than an illiterate 12 year old TBH.
Whoever said it was? Stop putting words in my mouth.
When the 400k offer was made pre-admin it included cross invoicing.
However, from when the Ricoh opened until this January, CCFC had the option to buy Higgs shares and with it 100% of the football income and 50% of the rest. - OFFER 1
When they reduced the rent offer to £150k they stated that they were willing to listen to offers on any revenues - OFFER 2
We do not know about any negotiations since then (well I don't, if you have inside info, please share) so therefore no change in position AFAWK.
So again, unless you have evidence that ACL have stated that CCFC will never be allowed access to the Ricoh revenues, it remains crap.
How is the land zoned around the Ricoh? Is there any reason the remain land there or ajoining land couldn't have been used to build these facilites. To be honset I couldn't care less where the academy is located and where the team train (within reason!), doesn't make any difference to me if I go past those facilites to get into the stadium.
Agree with you about identity but thats something that could be very easily sovled at the Rioch. Put up a building wrap, flags on lamposts etc and you're done. Would be an ideal project for the Trust if there wasn't all this mess to deal with.
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