Player Ratings vs Northampton (3 Viewers)

speedie87

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Burge 6 couple of dodgy moments and a couple of good ones
Sterry 7 looks decent
Turnbull 7
Willis 6
Page 7 best game for us
McCann 8 motm
Vlad 5 poor
Bigi 7
Agyei 7 what a goal but faded out
Jones 7 great first half then faded out
Sordell. 6
 

Pipehitterz

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Burge 4 . Couple of really awful moments to forget. Do not want him in my teams goal. Stop flogging this horse how the hell he gets a 6 from op is a mystery
Steery / page 5 both are not that good. Steery got torn a new one over and again all night. Neither have any attacking presence. I wonder what Haynes needs to do to get a game?
Turnbull 6 solid
Willis 6 got dragged about a bit. Needs to learn to Hold his position better
bigi 8 fantastic display
Vlad 4 rubbish, again
Mccan 7 ran the show without really breaking a sweat
Ageiy 5 . Good goal but disappeared for the most part
Sordell 6 wasted on the left. Put in a willing shift if nothing else
Jones 6 flatters a Little. Some world give him a 7 or 8 for last night, he does a lot but does nothing sometimes.

Tudgay 1. For the amount of touches he did plus the Number of air shots he did too.
Lameiras 6 made himself available all over the place. Amazing goal
 

torchomatic

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Burge 5 - THought he was OK. Seems like the defenders don't have much confidence in him.
Sterry 5 - He did OK, I reckon
Page 5 - Made some good runs. Corners were rubbish though.
Turnbull 6 - Looks solid
Willis 6 - Looks the part but prone to giving ball away
Bigi 8 - Very good. Again.
Vlad 4 - Had one really good shot but totally anonymous for rest of his time on the pitch
McCann 7 - Always involved
Agyei 6 - Great solo goal and powerful performance, needs to learn when to lay it off though
Sordell 6 - Ineffective but only because of the position he was played in. Some good touches.
Jones 7 - Played well and obviously scares defenders but again needs to pass a little more

Tudgay 4 - Didn't do much
Rickets 5 - Defended well but didn't get much of the ball
Lameiras 7 - Great goal and ran at their defence quite a bit
 

MusicDating

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Lameiras said: “Venus told me to enjoy myself out there and show what I can do. I had a little bit of freedom and I think that helped my game.

“McCann’s ball over the top was fantastic and I know nice times out of ten if I make that run he will be able to find me. It was a good feeling to get on the end of it and then finish.

“Apparently I’m the joint top scorer now so I’ll be sure to tell Marvin that, but overall it’s about the team performance and today we were excellent.”
 

GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee

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Burge - 5.5 flaps a lot still, made a good save to tip over but agree with poster up there, miscommunication with defence

Page - 5, don't really know why Haynes isn't playing, he's firstly ours and secondly slightly better

Sterry 5.5 wasn't much better than page. Both have poor first touches

Willis - 6 would be higher but goal was his mistake

Turnbull 7 - solid

Bigi 8.5 - was class and he's so effortless

McCann 8 - controlled midfield with Bigi

Gadzhev 4 - don't know what quality he brings? Was expecting so much more

Jones 7 was quality first half tore them to shreds but faded in the second

Sordell 6 didn't do too much right or wrong

Agyei 6 - quality run for goal but to be honest if it wasn't for that he'd be marked low. He's strong, but he reminds me a bit of Nouble in that he ridiculously overplays everything or adds a trick when there's no need. Don't think he's anything to write home about.

Lameiras 7 - looked bright after his beauty of a goal, full of confidence, harried well

Tudgay - 4 did he actually come on?

Ricketts 6 - didn't do anything wrong and dealt with a few threatening balls with ease


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Garryb80

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Why do people obsess over haynes?? Has 1 good half against portsmouth reserves and suddenly he is amazing! Page is clearly better and im amazed anyone thinks differently
 

speedie87

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Why do people obsess over haynes?? Has 1 good half against portsmouth reserves and suddenly he is amazing! Page is clearly better and im amazed anyone thinks differently

spot on...........and sterry looks good to me too
 

Pipehitterz

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Why do people obsess over haynes?? Has 1 good half against portsmouth reserves and suddenly he is amazing! Page is clearly better and im amazed anyone thinks differently
Seriously you must have something in your eyes.
We aren't saying Haynes is a word beating left back, but you cannot seriously state page is that much better than him.
Haynes it's our own player which in my eyes makes him the Number one choice in that position at this Club, until, a player oust him by being a better player, and in a loaned player, I would expect him to be considerably better to must him ..
No way is page considerably better than Haynes, if you think that then you're talking garbage
Look back through the player ratings this season and see how many posters note page as not as good as Haynes.

We all talk about destroying youngsters, and how managers should be protecting them, well Fuck me, Haynes confidence must be bottom of the barrel with the way tm has treated him.
These 2 should be contesting the spot, instead Haynes sits in the stands scratching his head
 

torchomatic

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I can seriously state Page is better than Haynes. Here goes:

I seriously believe Page is better than Haynes.

Simple.
 

Garryb80

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Seriously you must have something in your eyes.
We aren't saying Haynes is a word beating left back, but you cannot seriously state page is that much better than him.
Haynes it's our own player which in my eyes makes him the Number one choice in that position at this Club, until, a player oust him by being a better player, and in a loaned player, I would expect him to be considerably better to must him ..
No way is page considerably better than Haynes, if you think that then you're talking garbage
Look back through the player ratings this season and see how many posters note page as not as good as Haynes.

We all talk about destroying youngsters, and how managers should be protecting them, well Fuck me, Haynes confidence must be bottom of the barrel with the way tm has treated him.
These 2 should be contesting the spot, instead Haynes sits in the stands scratching his head
I look forward to you reeling off the list of games where haynes has been above average. More than 1 manager hasnt rated haynes yet page is highly rated at west ham and both mowbray and venus both view him better than haynes. I will go with the general view of the pros and my own rather than yours. Your argument is that haynes should play purely as we own him...notice you couldnt argue he was better.
 

Warwickhunt

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I look forward to you reeling off the list of games where haynes has been above average. More than 1 manager hasnt rated haynes yet page is highly rated at west ham and both mowbray and venus both view him better than haynes. I will go with the general view of the pros and my own rather than yours. Your argument is that haynes should play purely as we own him...notice you couldnt argue he was better.
We might need to understand Page's term and conditions of his loan contract before speculate
 

Pipehitterz

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I look forward to you reeling off the list of games where haynes has been above average. More than 1 manager hasnt rated haynes yet page is highly rated at west ham and both mowbray and venus both view him better than haynes. I will go with the general view of the pros and my own rather than yours. Your argument is that haynes should play purely as we own him...notice you couldnt argue he was better.
interesting you will choose an untested premier league youthy over a tested cov player
especially the dull start this guy has had here
ive stated theyre pretty much on a par, which in turn suggests to me that we should play our own

your views appear to be in the minority on this forum, and this forum is where most of us find our only comparison

there was never an argument started over who was better, but seeing as you like to make up facts of your own, please enjoy your fictional self gratification
 

Garryb80

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interesting you will choose an untested premier league youthy over a tested cov player
especially the dull start this guy has had here
ive stated theyre pretty much on a par, which in turn suggests to me that we should play our own

your views appear to be in the minority on this forum, and this forum is where most of us find our only comparison

there was never an argument started over who was better, but seeing as you like to make up facts of your own, please enjoy your fictional self gratification
I didnt say there was an argument i asked why people rate a clearly average at best footballer over one who has been involved with a premier league first team. You have no answers other than we own him. They are not on a par and if you genuinely think they are then i despair.
 

clint van damme

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I didnt say there was an argument i asked why people rate a clearly average at best footballer over one who has been involved with a premier league first team. You have no answers other than we own him. They are not on a par and if you genuinely think they are then i despair.

the difference between the two players isn't significant enough to warrant playing Page over Haynes.
A loan player should bring about a big improvement in the team to warrant his place, I don't see it with Page and neither do many others.
 

stupot07

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the difference between the two players isn't significant enough to warrant playing Page over Haynes.
A loan player should bring about a big improvement in the team to warrant his place, I don't see it with Page and neither do many others.
I must agree. I've not seen anything in page to say he is any better than Haynes, I also don't think sterry is that much better than DKE either. If we aren't mounting a promotion charge and its another year of development, why develop other clubs players ahead of developing your own. It would be fair enough if they were head and shoulders above them like Armstrong and Murphy were. I can only assume Haynes will be culled when his contract runs out.

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Pipehitterz

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I didnt say there was an argument i asked why people rate a clearly average at best footballer over one who has been involved with a premier league first team. You have no answers other than we own him. They are not on a par and if you genuinely think they are then i despair.
Then reread the thread

Nobody other than yourself is claiming Haynes as better.

But 90% of this thread thinking we should play Haynes over page and develop our own rather than west hams players.

Despair all you like but there isn't many on this site that will cry with you whilst we let our own talent run down their contract
 

shelby76

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I must agree. I've not seen anything in page to say he is any better than Haynes, I also don't think sterry is that much better than DKE either. If we aren't mounting a promotion charge and its another year of development, why develop other clubs players ahead of developing your own. It would be fair enough if they were head and shoulders above them like Armstrong and Murphy were. I can only assume Haynes will be culled when his contract runs out.

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To be fair loan players are here for there own profile development, all they are concerned about is if they play every week and chalk up enough appearances for there cv, im sure they dont care about the club as much as one our players or have an affinity fair enough but if were not getting promoted and just looking to hang on play haynes and the rest of our kids develop them first! its like fostering some kid feeding it looking after it and abandoning starving your own kids, makes you wonder whats going on, im sure venus will sort it out if he gets the job.
 

GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee

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I didnt say there was an argument i asked why people rate a clearly average at best footballer over one who has been involved with a premier league first team. You have no answers other than we own him. They are not on a par and if you genuinely think they are then i despair.
This statement is completely redundant. Reece Brown is probably the worst Centre Back I've seen through the years at Coventry and was involved at Manchester United and is now making fleeting appearances for league one clubs every now and then. Stephen O'Halloran was at a Villa side as good as the current West Ham squad and now plays for Salford City... the list would be endless. Just because you are involved in a youth set up at a Premier League club it doesnt make you decent. Allsop is still on the books at Bournemouth and is absolutely no better than what we have available to us.
I'm not getting on Page's back, i just am yet to see much in his performances so far that warrant us having got him in on loan over Haynes. Again, before you make out we treat Haynes as Jesus, he is a very average Left Back.
 

eastwoodsdustman

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Here goes then. We would have done better in the first 6 games with Haynes in the side instead of Page. Playing 352 meant that the fullback/wingback had to push on and get crosses into the box. Haynes is better at that than Page. FACT:). Defensively not much between them and like many before have pointed out, who are we trying to develop here? One of our own players who is certainly no worse than his loaned in replacement or someone who'll be gone in a few months.
Sterry on the other hand is a better player than we have already and I can understand why he's in at the moment. DKE will become a better player as he get older and bulks up but as we are at the minute I'd pick Sterry and Haynes as our fullbacks.
 

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