stupot07
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I thought so.
You could also argue he is fouled a lot as he holds onto the ball too long at times.
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I thought so.Expected goals and assists
Or maybe he is fouled a lot because other teams see him as the main threat. Some of this criticism is really unfair. He's still got a lot to learn and sometimes needs to slow things down a bit but his contribution to the team is really important.I thought so.
You could also argue he is fouled a lot as he holds onto the ball too long at times.
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O'Hare is dogshit and we need to replace.
Giles is dogshit and we need to replace.
Godden is dogshit and we need to replace.
Sheaf is dogshit and we need to replace.
Marosi/Wilson are both dogshit and we need to replace.
Shipley is dogshit and we need to get rid.
The top five there are all players that are lauded (maybe not so much Sheaf) on this forum pretty much universally. I think we'll stay up this season because we'll pick up random three points every now and then, and, remarkably, I believe there are a few teams shitter than we are (Wycombe and Rotherham being the main two), but if we're serious about ever making a push into the top half of the table, we need to find worthy, Championship-level replacements for these players.
Interesting, thanks for posting these and the other ones. I agree with the poster above that key passes would be a greater indicator of creativity than assists. 0.5 seems low for a player in his position, how does that compare to other players in our team and the league as a whole?
We’d pretty much need a whole new squad to push into the top half of the table. We need to start by clearing out the deadwood like Biamou and Baka this summer - it’d take several seasons of progression for us to compete in the top half - the players you’ve identified are the least of our concerns for now.O'Hare is dogshit and we need to replace.
Giles is dogshit and we need to replace.
Godden is dogshit and we need to replace.
Sheaf is dogshit and we need to replace.
Marosi/Wilson are both dogshit and we need to replace.
Shipley is dogshit and we need to get rid.
The top five there are all players that are lauded (maybe not so much Sheaf) on this forum pretty much universally. I think we'll stay up this season because we'll pick up random three points every now and then, and, remarkably, I believe there are a few teams shitter than we are (Wycombe and Rotherham being the main two), but if we're serious about ever making a push into the top half of the table, we need to find worthy, Championship-level replacements for these players.
No worries, glad someone likes them I know stats are a massive turn off for some!
Key Passes at 0.5 does stick out as very low. You could make an argument that this output is low due to not having good options or because he's fouled before he gets chance to play the pass but he also ranks in the Championship's Top 10 for both times he is dispossessed & also times he takes a bad touch/fails to control the ball.
Key Passes for comparison:
Hamer 1.8 (set pieces major contributor)
Giles 1
Godden 0.8
Allen 0.7
Sheaf 0.6
Kelly 0.6
Biamou, Pask & O'Hare all 0.5
0.5 Key Passes per game would be tied for 166th in the Championship but, as with Hamer, it's quite heavily weighted toward set piece takers.
Buendia is a level above with 3.3, there's a handful with over 2.
If you look at those that aren't regular set piece takers the likes of Harvey Elliott (2.1), Ilias Chair (2.0) Ovie Ejaria (1.6) & Conor Chaplin (1.5) set the standard.
I certainly think it's an area he should be looking to improve.
Are you sure set pieces count as key passes? I'm not sure they do, but happy to be proven wrong. Hamer certainly takes more than 1.8 corners or attacking freekicks a game plus creates chances on top of that. The definition on opta say it is the final pass or pass-come-shots that result in the recipient having a shot.
If you could pick one attacking midfielder/number 10 that would be good to use as a comparison who would you choose?
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Do you have stats to show who passed to the player that won the corner?That's right so if a Hamer corner or free kick leads to a direct effort on goal that would be a Key Pass. Conversely the Hamer corners to the back post for Østigård to head back across for teammates for example wouldn't be included as Key Passes as there is another pass required before an attempt at goal.
Believe it or not Swansea wing-back Connor Roberts is actually 2nd in Key Passes with 2.2 per game due to the exceptional quality crosses he puts in. Swansea use their wing-backs incredibly well, both Roberts & Bidwell have 4 assists each.
Picking an individual for an O'Hare comparison is tricky as he's quite a unique player. It would really need to be somebody else from one of the lesser teams as the top teams naturally create more & the bigger problem is almost nobody plays the same system as us.
I guess somebody like Jon Toral at Blues is somebody he could learn bits from. O'Hare is much more nimble & creates opportunities by getting beyond the striker, into the box etc. but he could definitely learn a bit from his creativity & decision making when in possession around the penalty area.
Do you have stats to show who passed to the player that won the corner?
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