How was he 2 marks worse than all our players?
I'll give you a chance to defend...
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A lot of Irish fans on this forum you prick
He contributed nothing. Made 4 long range passes 3 of which he was not under any pressure to make. He also had 1 shot. He offered nothing else. Movement off the ball was zero and on the ball lost possession several times. According to don assists are all that counts so mcsheffrey did that alright.
The people I sit with all have abet when a sub comes on who goes off. All of us said fleck for the first sub replacement. Why is that do you think? Did we miss his presence when he did go off?
None if predicted mcsheffrey to be withdrawn.
When our subs were warming up, and you knew who was coming on, I knew who was coming off, I hope Clarke came off for Elliott, but thought it was going to be Jenno/Fleck, when Moussa was coming on, I hoped Sheff, knew it was Fleck, when CT4 came on, we all knew Sheff was coming off.
I went with 3 schoolmates, 1 of which was extremely anti-Fleck, and we were in agreement, unanimously on who was going off.
He was our poorest player by a mile.
When our subs were warming up, and you knew who was coming on, I knew who was coming off, I hope Clarke came off for Elliott, but thought it was going to be Jenno/Fleck, when Moussa was coming on, I hoped Sheff, knew it was Fleck, when CT4 came on, we all knew Sheff was coming off.
I went with 3 schoolmates, 1 of which was extremely anti-Fleck, and we were in agreement, unanimously on who was going off.
Also, MR is starting to become predictable that he always takes Fleck off to bring on Elliott to go to 4-4-2.
I guess we will know how well Fleck played when the team v PNE is announced, won't we?
Did you see it as 4-4-2.. Was it not 4-4-1-1....I didnt quite see it as Elliot playing directly alongside Clarke?
Have to concur with that,Mcsheffrey was poor,the odd decent thing interspersed with lots of poor play.Unfortunately his legs have gone,he lacks pace to get away from defenders now,is easily brushed off the ball,his tackling is dreadful and he commits numerous fouls.Can't remember the last time he scored,it must be months ago.Sheff had his worse game in a while imo, the early cross which he blasted at the other side of the pitch pretty much summed it up for him today. His assist stops him getting below 6 for me
Thought both full backs played well today, what pleased me is that not only were they supporting there winger but they were both running beyond there winger off the ball for the slide ball in behind the defence
It was 4-4-2, but Elliott did drop deep a lot. I wasn't a rigid 4-4-2 that is for sure.
What would you consider yourself to be then; the diamond?
What would you consider yourself to be then; the diamond?
Please don't mention that and spoil my weekend.
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No, 2 upfront, but Elliott dropped deep.
Although I do like the diamond, just Thorn fecked it up big time.
I was making light of your typo which suggested you aren't a rigid 4-4-2.
Oh... I see, I didn't notice my mistake...
The fact you said Edj was our worst defender makes your post invalid. How was Fleck 'lazy'?
Only thing remotely true in bold.
Clearly you are blind to what actually happens or you refuse to beleive certain players can play badly. Edge got turned several times and was poor. Not an opinion more a statement of fact from having actually watched the game. Fleck is lazy, again no denying that. He sits in midfield doesnt tackle rarely makes a decent pass and is a waste of a player when we have 3 players on the bench i consider better. Sorry to ruin your 'i am superior' opinion but you are wrong.
When did he get turned then? The defence was actually solid, and we conceded from our 'Achilles heel', corners.
Fleck isn't lazy actually, he was involved in our play, he isn't no Jenno, but in the AMC role, you don't need to be able to tackle, just press, you sound stupid when you say "he rarely makes a decent pass" because even stupot and Grendel acknowledged he made 3-4 good passes.
You do know Sheff is a terrible tackler as well? I watched the highlights on BBC and Sky, and he misses every 50/50 ball and in fact misses 60/40 balls in his favour.
Still got to point out Fleck still tops our assists table.
.When did he get turned then? The defence was actually solid, and we conceded from our 'Achilles heel', corners.
Fleck isn't lazy actually, he was involved in our play, he isn't no Jenno, but in the AMC role, you don't need to be able to tackle, just press, you sound stupid when you say "he rarely makes a decent pass" because even stupot and Grendel acknowledged he made 3-4 good passes.
You do know Sheff is a terrible tackler as well? I watched the highlights on BBC and Sky, and he misses every 50/50 ball and in fact misses 60/40 balls in his favour.
Still got to point out Fleck still tops our assists table.
If anyone has got the 'I'm superior' opinion, it's you!
The defence wasn't that solid Taylor, they had 3 one-on-ones in addition to their goal.
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Perhaps we should do a poll on Fleck. You can pick an option and then tell everyone you didn't mean it and really believe something else.
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