In other words they paid for it.
If there is a problem with the main structure of the building or if something broken that is not the tenants fault then yes the landlord will repair it.
It is like if seats are broken at a CCFC match then the club has to pay, if however it is deemed that it is down to wear and tear then the wasps would have to cough up the money.
Wasps may have initially spent some money sprucing it up, wouldn't have thought it would have been a great deal though nothing much has changed, Haven't spent a penny on the Arena by the looks of it bar a few club badges.....
Another reason for supporting Cov Rugby accompanied u16's are free.They advertise u10’s free. I’ve actually witnessed a guy trying to give away a batch of free tickets to a Sunday Wasps match last year.
That's utter rubbish.Within three months of the first match at the Ricoh the club tried to renegotiate the rental deal. ACL refused. So, you're talking bollocks; it was never a fair deal, the club had no choice.
Not really, Paul Fletcher was the one who come out with that. He said the model at the time was unsustainableThat's utter rubbish.
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What seems to be overlooked quite often is that having (presumably) done their due diligence and entered in to agreements with their eyes wide open, SISU then tear up the rental agreement within months and move the club out of the city. Ridiculous. The consequences of these actions are long-lasting and may even threaten the existence of the club we know and love.Not really, Paul Fletcher was the one who come out with that. He said the model at the time was unsustainable
What seems to be overlooked quite often is that having (presumably) done their due diligence and entered in to agreements with their eyes wide open, SISU then tear up the rental agreement within months and move the club out of the city. Ridiculous. The consequences of these actions are long-lasting and may even threaten the existence of the club we know and love.
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We’re not discussing what SISU should have done, we’re discussing whether the club attempted to renegotiate the deal 3 months in.What seems to be overlooked quite often is that having (presumably) done their due diligence and entered in to agreements with their eyes wide open, SISU then tear up the rental agreement within months and move the club out of the city. Ridiculous. The consequences of these actions are long-lasting and may even threaten the existence of the club we know and love.
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You have to put all this in context: SISU took on the rental agreement as it stood. To take on any agreement and then turn round and refuse to abide by the agreed terms is plain wrong.
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In other words they paid for it.
If there is a problem with the main structure of the building or if something broken that is not the tenants fault then yes the landlord will repair it.
It is like if seats are broken at a CCFC match then the club has to pay, if however it is deemed that it is down to wear and tear then the wasps would have to cough up the money.
Wasps may have initially spent some money sprucing it up, wouldn't have thought it would have been a great deal though nothing much has changed, Haven't spent a penny on the Arena by the looks of it bar a few club badges.....
Having just negotiated the deal for ACL he became CCFC MD and said it was unfair. Slightly surreal.Not really, Paul Fletcher was the one who come out with that. He said the model at the time was unsustainable
Yeah it is really, the Club was on its knees and ACL took advantage, knowinglyHaving just negotiated the deal for ACL he became CCFC MD and said it was unfair. Slightly surreal.
Nope it’s 9 home games and and advertised as a 25% reduction - it’s £50’more than the coventry rugby club offer which is 3rd division rugby.
As I say - you seem frantic to defend them
Virtually everyone agrees the rent was unsustainable and ACL refused to negotiate so what was the better way forward? Keep paying for the next 50 years until it was time for a new agreement?The consequences of these actions are long-lasting and may even threaten the existence of the club we know and love.
What’s even worse is as I mentioned earlier, there were other bidders for the club when SISU took over..I suspect that if ACL/the council maintained control of the Ricoh after sisu moved us back from Northampton then they would have sold by now. Without Wasps' involvement we'd have been a more attractive proposition to potential owners that aren't deluded gamblers. A buyer could have sorted a deal in principle with the council dependant on buying the football club meaning sisu wouldn't have gained control of the arena and we'd have been rid of our owners.
And the reason they'd only deal with SISU was that all the other interested parties wanted ownership of the ground as they'd identified renting as an issue.It was the council who said they’d only deal with SISU
Never heard that one, your source?And the reason they'd only deal with SISU was that all the other interested parties wanted ownership of the ground as they'd identified renting as an issue.
Try the search box at the top of this site, its been discussed numerous times.Never heard that one, your source?
Try the search box at the top of this site, its been discussed numerous times.
Never heard that one, your source?
My question was about ownership not lease length. I guess Dave doesn't have a source so he is trying to deflect my question.One company wanted an extended lease and Ken Taylor told them to piss off and even said it was a terrrible deal as the charity would lose a couple of million.
How ironic.
My question was about ownership not lease length. I guess Dave doesn't have a source so he is trying to deflect my question.
In hindsight I think a 100 yr lease and much lower rent should have been a minimum demand for anyone taking on CCFC, but we can't roll back the clock can we.
Then SISU must have been one of the few who did think the rental deal was sustainable, otherwise why sign up to it? Unless they had a cunning plan, of course...Virtually everyone agrees the rent was unsustainable and ACL refused to negotiate so what was the better way forward? Keep paying for the next 50 years until it was time for a new agreement?
Even when the lease was broken the long term damage to the club should have been minimal. As is repeatedly pointed out the long term damage was caused when the council sold to Wasps. That's the point at which things became irreversible.
Because SISU never intended to be direct owners of the club. Ranson sold them the dream of give me x cash and I'll give you a great return by getting us to the premier league and selling on. Ranson didn't use that cash as he wanted to invest in them, get to the promised land and get his cash back. When he and Coleman had spunked all the cash they came back to SISU asking for more, were told no and stormed out of the club in a hissy fit. At that point SISU had to take direct control and appointed a load of useless idiots who tried to run the club like a business (never works in football) which leads us to dropping down the divisions.Then SISU must have been one of the few who did think the rental deal was sustainable, otherwise why sign up to it? Unless they had a cunning plan, of course...
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Then SISU must have been one of the few who did think the rental deal was sustainable, otherwise why sign up to it? Unless they had a cunning plan, of course...
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And this how their short termism failed. They were convinced by Ranson to invest a couple of million and get promoted to the promise land.Then SISU must have been one of the few who did think the rental deal was sustainable, otherwise why sign up to it? Unless they had a cunning plan, of course...
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That was a consequence of SISU's fiscal management, they've trimmed the club to the bone to prevent losses.which leads us to dropping down the divisions.
He'd know best!Having just negotiated the deal for ACL he became CCFC MD and said it was unfair. Slightly surreal.
That's utter rubbish.
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Blimey you must be a fan with that knowledge.
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