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stupot07
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Couldnt agree more - some posters are bit too harsh on Clarke, yet never complain when Christie makes mistakes.
@richh87
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I've been very critical of Clarke recently. Away at Forest he had a shocker and I much prefer the height and pace that Christie offers - a better player in my opinion.
Having said that Clarke was excellent last week and had his moments today - although I doubt Christie would have been skinned and outpaced so easily by Townsend.
stupot07
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Did you not witness Craig Noone and Lua Lua rip Christie apart a couple of months ago for Brighton? And Lloyd Dyer ripped past him to set up the first Leicester goal.
Actually Clarke is pretty quick, he's just not as good at running with the ball, also is a much better passer.
Otis
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Grendel
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On an individual basis of course it was a great effort. Reality is there have been far to many negatives this season to make it worth looking at the positive nature of this performance. We are down. Some people on here will have you believe that the squad is incapable of surviving in this league. We should be bottom and we force so many children to play the NSPCC should hold an investigation.
It's all nonsense of course and performances like this raises uncomfortable questions for some people who allege our players are so poor they should not even be on the same pitch as Birmingham. Some will say that that performance is only because good old AT is in charge. The more astute of us will just shake our heads and think what might have been. Sad day in some ways I think.
It's all nonsense of course and performances like this raises uncomfortable questions for some people who allege our players are so poor they should not even be on the same pitch as Birmingham. Some will say that that performance is only because good old AT is in charge. The more astute of us will just shake our heads and think what might have been. Sad day in some ways I think.
stupot07
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The biggest issue and the one we've had all season is the lack of quality in front of goal.
Not sure what your implying re: uncomfortable questions about the performance.
Tankie
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Good Morning Torchy.
I Have to rate this game as the proverbial "Two halves"
I thought the first half was a pretty disjointed display, with the Sky Blues, although containing The Blues of Birmingham
Quite comfortably, they did not pose a significant attacking threat, and the partnership of Nimeley and McDonald looked green and unrehearsed, which is of cause, exactly what it is,
but it was clear that the performance,was lacking the fluidity seen of late.
Following the injury to McDonald, and the introduction of Clive Platt, the game was stood on its head, with Platt
doing his thing, of recieving,Holding the ball up, and buying time for others to link the play.
Platts contribution was proving massive, we looked a more imposing side, and I think it would be fair to say that "Brum "were firmly under the cosh for most of the second half.
I imagine the fitness of Platt is going to be pivital, if we are to put in the performances we need to, and the Platt/Nimeley combo looks our best pairing at this present time.
Tankie.....Sun kissed Bedworth.
I Have to rate this game as the proverbial "Two halves"
I thought the first half was a pretty disjointed display, with the Sky Blues, although containing The Blues of Birmingham
Quite comfortably, they did not pose a significant attacking threat, and the partnership of Nimeley and McDonald looked green and unrehearsed, which is of cause, exactly what it is,
but it was clear that the performance,was lacking the fluidity seen of late.
Following the injury to McDonald, and the introduction of Clive Platt, the game was stood on its head, with Platt
doing his thing, of recieving,Holding the ball up, and buying time for others to link the play.
Platts contribution was proving massive, we looked a more imposing side, and I think it would be fair to say that "Brum "were firmly under the cosh for most of the second half.
I imagine the fitness of Platt is going to be pivital, if we are to put in the performances we need to, and the Platt/Nimeley combo looks our best pairing at this present time.
Tankie.....Sun kissed Bedworth.
Otis
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Two things changed the game.
1. Platt coming on.
2. Their big central midifield N'daw going off. He was controlling the midfield for them.
Whether anyone says Platt is a crap footballer or not, there is no doubt whatseover that we have better shape and structure when he is in the team.
1. Platt coming on.
2. Their big central midifield N'daw going off. He was controlling the midfield for them.
Whether anyone says Platt is a crap footballer or not, there is no doubt whatseover that we have better shape and structure when he is in the team.
Grendel
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My comment on the performance is that many people have said the squad is so poor that it is incapable of survival whoever is in charge. This though is at odds with some of the performances at home where we have been very competitive against sides high up the league.
Our away form is disastrous and that has to be down to poor planning and tactical awareness.
I agree to an extent about lack of goalscorers but other teams in this league have that problem and adapt tactics accordingly. Our sticking with an unsuitable mid-field diamond combination has been folly and Thorn's rigidity to it cost us earlier in the season.
If our strike force is so poor why have we scored more goals at home than the following;
Middlesbrough
Hull
Crystal Palace
Derby
Millwall
Forest
Bristol
Doncaster
Portsmouth
Otis
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Yesterday showed our lack of endeavour too. As I said eariler we had a free kick in a dangerous position yesterday and we left all the players who could head the ball (or have height) back on the halfway line and Keogh took the free kick.
Then to make that even more pointless we hit a long high ball into the box.
We have been too cautious all season. It's all been about keeping posession and stopping the opposition scoring on the whole.
Then to make that even more pointless we hit a long high ball into the box.
We have been too cautious all season. It's all been about keeping posession and stopping the opposition scoring on the whole.
Lord_Nampil
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Yesterday for me I wish we had actually gone for it! Put Platt on with Macca, Nimley, McDonald and Baker and see what happens! Clingan doesn't move over the half way line any way so you could have left him to sit where hes sat all season and just had a go...
Although the game changed when Platt came on and McDonald went off i wanted Platt on at half time for Norward!!!
If we had got a few goals after say 15 mins, you then could change it back and bring Thomas or Deegan on!
Although the game changed when Platt came on and McDonald went off i wanted Platt on at half time for Norward!!!
If we had got a few goals after say 15 mins, you then could change it back and bring Thomas or Deegan on!
torchomatic
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Just reiterating that he's right and Thorn should have been sacked months ago, I presume. I ignore the jibes now.
Grendel
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Why if the playing squad is innefecrive is our home form that of a mid table side? Why when we have played more direct deploying baker and mcsheffrey wider have we been more effective. Are you really saying thorn is totally blameless for all of this
torchomatic
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Of course Thorn is not totally blameless. But your obsession that he is totally to blame is odd. Particularly where every one of your posts is littered with jibes at others who don't share your view.
stupot07
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League top scorers: -
Lambert 21 goals
McCormack 15 goals
Rodriguez 15 goals
Henderson 13 goals
Cov strikers league goals
Juke 9
Platt 3
Cody 2
Nimely 1
ROD 0
Total = 15 (and juke has nearly 2/3rd of the goals no longer plays for us)
Yep your right our strikers aren't too bad after all.
Lambert 21 goals
McCormack 15 goals
Rodriguez 15 goals
Henderson 13 goals
Cov strikers league goals
Juke 9
Platt 3
Cody 2
Nimely 1
ROD 0
Total = 15 (and juke has nearly 2/3rd of the goals no longer plays for us)
Yep your right our strikers aren't too bad after all.
Grendel
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Jibes mainly at those who portray him as some kind of hero performing against adversity, best manager we've had for years, should be in charge at west ham, needs a medal, we would not have won a game had boothroyd been in charge. You said you cannot understand why thorns record is more scrutinized than any other manager. Really?
Grendel
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I think that's a bit of a politicians reply. Why if collectively the team is so poor have we scored more goals at home than 10 others?
torchomatic
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He isn't "some kind of hero" obviously, but he's had a smaller and poorer squad with less money and lost more players than just about any manager we've had in the last twenty odd years, so yes there are reasons we are where we are. The "needs a medal" jibe is just what I'm talking about. You just make stuff up and sling it at fans that don't agree with you. I don't think I've seen anyone say he needs a medal or we wouldn't have won with Bothroyd in charge.
Stick to your stats and facts, don't try and make fellow fans look stupid by making up shit.
Stick to your stats and facts, don't try and make fellow fans look stupid by making up shit.
Positives
1. We held our own against a decent team
2. Managed to play consistently across too halves
3. Carl Baker had his best game in a long time
4. Cameron played well against King and managed to not get sent off
5. Decent crowd/ good atmosphere
6. McDonald was fit enough to start a game, showed some quality and chases down the second ball
7. We had a game changing player in Clive Platt on our bench.
8. Clarke gets better each game since his injury
9. We got very lucky with two superb loan players in Norwood and Nimely
10. Sheffs put in an awesome goal
Negatives
1. Marlon King was playing in the opposite team
2. Joe Murphy can't command his box
3. Sammy Clingan plays sideway and backwards instead of forward
4. East Stand ran out of hot dogs at half time :facepalm:
1. We held our own against a decent team
2. Managed to play consistently across too halves
3. Carl Baker had his best game in a long time
4. Cameron played well against King and managed to not get sent off
5. Decent crowd/ good atmosphere
6. McDonald was fit enough to start a game, showed some quality and chases down the second ball
7. We had a game changing player in Clive Platt on our bench.
8. Clarke gets better each game since his injury
9. We got very lucky with two superb loan players in Norwood and Nimely
10. Sheffs put in an awesome goal
Negatives
1. Marlon King was playing in the opposite team
2. Joe Murphy can't command his box
3. Sammy Clingan plays sideway and backwards instead of forward
4. East Stand ran out of hot dogs at half time :facepalm:
Grendel
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I didn't say that you said any of that others have said;
Thorn needs a medal for the job he is doing
If he managed Leicester and west ham these teams would at least be 10 points better than they are now
If boothroyd was in charge we would not have won a game all season
He is the best manager we have had since being relegated
Give him a 3 year contract even if we are relegated.
I am not saying you have not said this comments but I can assure you they have been said. I never use personal abuse, never swear and never make outlandish remarks like the above mentioned.
My sole argument is that we should and.could have taken action earlier. Where the problem in that.
Thorn needs a medal for the job he is doing
If he managed Leicester and west ham these teams would at least be 10 points better than they are now
If boothroyd was in charge we would not have won a game all season
He is the best manager we have had since being relegated
Give him a 3 year contract even if we are relegated.
I am not saying you have not said this comments but I can assure you they have been said. I never use personal abuse, never swear and never make outlandish remarks like the above mentioned.
My sole argument is that we should and.could have taken action earlier. Where the problem in that.