Possible Site for the elusive new ground ? (1 Viewer)

Feb57 · Jun 28, 2020

I was driving past the Ricoh earlier today, towards the M6, when it struck me that would it not be a great place to build Sisus fairytale ground. That is, on the site of the failed Macro/ Leekes Superstore and now the home of a secondhand car sales depo. Not sure they would be happy, but the site has a history of failed businesses so I would not be surprised if this latest one failed.
The site appears to be outside of the City boundary, so out of CCC control. According to the signs it is in Nuneaton and Bedworth, which comes under Warwickshire.
As it is, the site of the building is probably not quite big enough, but the field immediately behind it looks like it’s not used for anything. If our owners purchased both the car depo and the field in question, then looking at google maps it could well be big enough to accommodate a new ground and some car parking.
I have of course assumed that any objection from CCC could be nullified by the fact there is a stadium less than half a mile away so any noise, travel requirements etc could be met as they must have been for the Ricoh to have been built.
In these days of madness I can at least dream
Question is, if the unlikely happened, would our stay away fans go or use the excuse it’s not in Coventry so they would not go!

matesx · Jun 28, 2020

Fantasy stuff mate.

A hell of a lot of assumptions in there.

Kingokings204 · Jun 28, 2020

You have zero chance of this happening. 2 stadiums next to eachother on the A444.

MalcSB · Jun 28, 2020

Kingokings204 said:
You have zero chance of this happening. 2 stadiums next to eachother on the A444.

One of which would be an unsponsored poorly attended Rugby stadium, the other a football stadium.
Highly unlikely to happen though.

HuckerbyDublinWhelan · Jun 28, 2020

Kingokings204 said:
You have zero chance of this happening. 2 stadiums next to eachother on the A444.

2bf the centre of Nottingham has 2 football stadiums and a cricket ground either side of the Trent

Feb57 · Jun 28, 2020

I know, it’s a complete fantasy but it would be nice to stick one up CCC in sight of what’s I hope becomes a failed Insect insurgence and they, CCC get left with an empty stadium!

steve cooper · Jun 28, 2020

Kingokings204 said:
You have zero chance of this happening. 2 stadiums next to eachother on the A444.

Easy to schedule games so that both teams don't play home games at the same time surely?

Otis · Jun 28, 2020

HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
2bf the centre of Nottingham has 2 football stadiums and a cricket ground either side of the Trent

Very long standing. All built in the 1800's.

No way would anything like that be allowed to be built in this day and age.

fernandopartridge · Jun 28, 2020

Hard to think of any site much worse than the Ricoh, this is one of them though, just to far out and dreadful as a matchday experience.

Neither Hearsall, Morris, Whitley or Sowe Common are actually registered as common land. I'd look at one of those first.

Feb57 · Jun 28, 2020

fernandopartridge said:
Hard to think of any site much worse than the Ricoh, this is one of them though, just to far out and dreadful as a matchday experience.

Neither Hearsall, Morris, Whitley or Sowe Common are actually registered as common land. I'd look at one of those first.

All of those sites that you mention could well be an option. But they all have one thing in common( no pun intended), they all come under the control of CCC and from what we have seen thus far, CCC are not exactly falling over themselves to assist CCFC locate a suitable site. But..... you never, know they maybe doing it “ in camera” just like their decision to sell the Ricoh to the insects

fernandopartridge · Jun 28, 2020

Feb57 said:
All of those sites that you mention could well be an option. But they all have one thing in common( no pun intended), they all come under the control of CCC and from what we have seen thus far, CCC are not exactly falling over themselves to assist CCFC locate a suitable site. But..... you never, know they maybe doing it “ in camera” just like their decision to sell the Ricoh to the insects

They'd have to deal with any proposal on its merits and compliance with planning rules

NortonSkyBlue · Jun 28, 2020

HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
2bf the centre of Nottingham has 2 football stadiums and a cricket ground either side of the Trent

From the nineteenth century and I would hazard a guess that It was not built up in those days.

Flying Fokker · Jun 28, 2020

Feb57 said:
I was driving past the Ricoh earlier today, towards the M6, when it struck me that would it not be a great place to build Sisus fairytale ground. That is, on the site of the failed Macro/ Leekes Superstore and now the home of a secondhand car sales depo. Not sure they would be happy, but the site has a history of failed businesses so I would not be surprised if this latest one failed.
The site appears to be outside of the City boundary, so out of CCC control. According to the signs it is in Nuneaton and Bedworth, which comes under Warwickshire.
As it is, the site of the building is probably not quite big enough, but the field immediately behind it looks like it’s not used for anything. If our owners purchased both the car depo and the field in question, then looking at google maps it could well be big enough to accommodate a new ground and some car parking.
I have of course assumed that any objection from CCC could be nullified by the fact there is a stadium less than half a mile away so any noise, travel requirements etc could be met as they must have been for the Ricoh to have been built.
In these days of madness I can at least dream
Question is, if the unlikely happened, would our stay away fans go or use the excuse it’s not in Coventry so they would not go!

Perhaps the site is too small. Over the other side of the carriageway is more likely.

Woolly68 · Jun 28, 2020

Otis said:
Very long standing. All built in the 1800's.

No way would anything like that be allowed to be built in this day and age.

What about Northampton Town and Northampton Rugby ground. A stones throw. Less than 1 mile apart.

Feb57 · Jun 28, 2020

fernandopartridge said:
They'd have to deal with any proposal on its merits and compliance with planning rules

You are of course correct. But it’s funny how these things work out. If the authority or governing body are on board with it, these things happen a lot quicker. If they are not on board, then things take a lot longer.
Any application from CCFC for a new ground within the jurisdiction of CCC will need the support of the council or it will take forever. Then again, how long ago did Timmy promise us a new ground!

SBAndy · Jun 28, 2020

fernandopartridge said:
They'd have to deal with any proposal on its merits and compliance with planning rules

And if not, we could ask Robert Jenrick to oversee it and get a hefty rebate thrown our way.

fernandopartridge · Jun 28, 2020

My other proposal would be to demolish the entire Skydome and IKEA complex and that awful Town Crier pub and build one there

capel & collindridge · Jun 28, 2020

fernandopartridge said:
My other proposal would be to demolish the entire Skydome and IKEA complex and that awful Town Crier pub and build one there

Yes, the Nightingale National Football Stadium to generate employment and provide a fitting home for the true footballing heroes of this decade - still undefeated in the Twenty Twenties. Lets have it ready for the 2021-22 season!

fernandopartridge · Jun 28, 2020

capel & collindridge said:
Yes, the Nightingale National Football Stadium to generate employment and provide a fitting home for the true footballing heroes of this decade - still undefeated in the Twenty Twenties. Lets have it ready for the 2021-22 season!

Should be enough stock in IKEA for us to fashion the facility out of

Otis · Jun 28, 2020

fernandopartridge said:
Hard to think of any site much worse than the Ricoh, this is one of them though, just to far out and dreadful as a matchday experience.

Neither Hearsall, Morris, Whitley or Sowe Common are actually registered as common land. I'd look at one of those first.

I would love it at Hearsall Common

Walsgrave · Jun 28, 2020

fernandopartridge said:
Hard to think of any site much worse than the Ricoh, this is one of them though, just to far out and dreadful as a matchday experience.

Neither Hearsall, Morris, Whitley or Sowe Common are actually registered as common land. I'd look at one of those first.

Safety concerns aside (what with the access to the common currently being given solely by two flimsy bridges over the M6 - only of which is by vehicle) - the Sowe Common and surrounding area would provide a decent matchday vibe. I could imagine people strolling from the chippy on Ringwood Highway and over the footbridge to watch a hard fought 1-0 victory over Stoke. The car park would probably have to be based at the cemetery.

If it were at the Whitley Common, then they might as well go to the Higgs since there is a lot of land off Whitley Pumping Station, but I understand that is to be used for housing.

Probably the most realistic of those is the Hearsall. Plenty of space and close enough to the city centre and train station for a decent Highfield Road like experience.

Colin Steins Smile · Jun 28, 2020

HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
2bf the centre of Nottingham has 2 football stadiums and a cricket ground either side of the Trent

And the cricket ground

Magwitch · Jun 28, 2020

Otis said:
I would love it at Hearsall Common

It is the ideal location, ticks lots of boxes, not many houses around, station within walking distance, walkable from city centre, on a number of bus routes from all over the city, pubs galore within walking distance, lots of commercial units nearby for possible parking. Hearsall Common though is common land so could be problematic but I’m not sure if the bottom end where the circus goes is.

Skybluefaz · Jun 28, 2020

Otis said:
I would love it at Hearsall Common

The Sir Frank Whittle stadium

fernandopartridge · Jun 28, 2020

Magwitch said:
It is the ideal location, ticks lots of boxes, not many houses around, station within walking distance, walkable from city centre, on a number of bus routes from all over the city, pubs galore within walking distance, lots of commercial units nearby for possible parking. Hearsall Common though is common land so could be problematic but I’m not sure if the bottom end where the circus goes is.

I've just said on the post above that it is not. It's just called a common. It is not designated common land.

SBAndy · Jun 28, 2020

fernandopartridge said:
I've just said on the post above that it is not. It's just called a common. It is not designated common land.

Where are you getting that from? From what I can see, Hearsall Common is exempt from the Commons Register but doesn’t necessarily mean it’s an option for building (though I could be horrendously misinterpreting!).

fernandopartridge · Jun 28, 2020

SBAndy said:
Where are you getting that from? From what I can see, Hearsall Common is exempt from the Commons Register but doesn’t necessarily mean it’s an option for building (though I could be horrendously misinterpreting!).

Council response to an FOI request stated there no land in Cov on that register. Agreed it doesn't mean there aren't other restrictions but one of more onerous ones doesn't exist. I'd imagine for any of those Commons you'd have to replace the lost recreation ground if you built on it

Happy_Martian · Jun 28, 2020

I am still more than convinced a ground could be built on the Warwickshire side of the A46, opposite the TGI Fridays. Far enough north to avoid issues with the residents of the Binley Woods massive and not too far east to force a purchase order for the farm and its buildings.. Good road access to A45/M1 and M6 and reasonable bus travel from the city centre.

Covstu · Jun 28, 2020

Happy_Martian said:
I am still more than convinced a ground could be built on the Warwickshire side of the A46, opposite the TGI Fridays. Far enough north to avoid issues with the residents of the Binley Woods massive and not too far east to force a purchase order for the farm and its buildings.. Good road access to A45/M1 and M6 and reasonable bus travel from the city centre. View attachment 15679

Isn’t a rugby club there?

Happy_Martian · Jun 28, 2020

Covstu said:
Isn’t a rugby club there?

Yes but this would not affect them for space as they're in the corner by the island. My idea is further north than their premises.

Happy_Martian · Jun 28, 2020

Covstu said:
Isn’t a rugby club there?

A rough interpretation

Magwitch · Jun 28, 2020

SBAndy said:
Where are you getting that from? From what I can see, Hearsall Common is exempt from the Commons Register but doesn’t necessarily mean it’s an option for building (though I could be horrendously misinterpreting!).

Always thought it was common land, perhaps incorrectly.

Gynnsthetonic · Jun 28, 2020

Walsgrave said:
Safety concerns aside (what with the access to the common currently being given solely by two flimsy bridges over the M6 - only of which is by vehicle) - the Sowe Common and surrounding area would provide a decent matchday vibe. I could imagine people strolling from the chippy on Ringwood Highway and over the footbridge to watch a hard fought 1-0 victory over Stoke. The car park would probably have to be based at the cemetery.

If it were at the Whitley Common, then they might as well go to the Higgs since there is a lot of land off Whitley Pumping Station, but I understand that is to be used for housing.

Probably the most realistic of those is the Hearsall. Plenty of space and close enough to the city centre and train station for a decent Highfield Road like experience.

You have Canley Station too, almost on the A45, lots of parking at nearby industrial estate, Village Hotel, Craven St, Earlsdon, close to City Centre, great location, cant see it ever happening though

Magwitch · Jun 28, 2020

Gynnsthetonic said:
You have Canley Station too, almost on the A45, lots of parking at nearby industrial estate, Village Hotel, Craven St, Earlsdon, close to City Centre, great location, cant see it ever happening though

For something like that to happen you need loads of Will from our council and owners, I have my doubts from either.

Legia Sky Blue · Jun 29, 2020

Woolly68 said:
What about Northampton Town and Northampton Rugby ground. A stones throw. Less than 1 mile apart.

Aren't Leicester's rugby and football grounds, similarly close?

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