PR battles (8 Viewers)

hill83 · Apr 17, 2015

"Ooh, they sent a flag! Look mum a free flag!"

Fuck me

Nick · Apr 17, 2015

Ranjit Bhurpa said:
Totally agree, I have no interest in watching Wasps and never will. If I want to see a live rugby match, then I will go and watch my local team CRFC.
However in relation to the OP, their PR machine is much more effective than that of CCFC. I would love to receive an email, flyer or whatever from the Club I have supported for 40+ years but I get or see sod all.

Christ, I get hammered with emails.

Ranjit Bhurpa · Apr 17, 2015

Nick said:
Christ, I get hammered with emails.

Are we talking CCFC related Nick or something like the Russian brides on mail order??

fernandopartridge · Apr 17, 2015

I hope Wasps go bust and SISU fuck off.

skybluetony176 · Apr 17, 2015

hill83 said:
"Ooh, they sent a flag! Look mum a free flag!"

Fuck me

I'm guessing you don't have kids.

A flag is the sort of thing kids (of a certain age) get excited about, adds to their experience and enjoyment and makes them want to come back.

It's so simple it's genius and is also a cheap easy gesture that pays for itself. They wouldn't even have to do it every game. Opening home game, closing home game and any kids for a quid game would do.

The Reverend Skyblue · Apr 17, 2015

fernandopartridge said:
I hope Wasps go bust and SISU fuck off.

I have said the first part since its inception and have wished the second part for years.

i can see Wasps struggling if the local football fans stick together and ignore the bastards from London. If you want to see a rugby game, which I don't ever as I find it boring, then go to Cov rugby

olderskyblue · Apr 17, 2015

Funny, I recall lots of positive PR after SISU took over that went on for an age.

I don't read any wasps articles, but some people are obsessed with them.

Gazolba · Apr 17, 2015

The only PR coming out of SISU will be after we are safe from relegation. Then you will hear all the PR about the great plans for next season just as the season tickets go on sale. All this will happen long before the highest-earning players and academy 'starlets' are disposed of and TM is tempted away by a higher-level club.

Moff · Apr 17, 2015

skybluetony176 said:
I'm guessing you don't have kids.

A flag is the sort of thing kids (of a certain age) get excited about, adds to their experience and enjoyment and makes them want to come back.

It's so simple it's genius and is also a cheap easy gesture that pays for itself. They wouldn't even have to do it every game. Opening home game, closing home game and any kids for a quid game would do.

Both my kids of a certain age just laughed at the flags and how pathetic they were. Not all children are so easily bought.
Apparently wasps cant get rid of their tickets at my sons school, again not all children are so easily bought.

rondog1973 · Apr 18, 2015

fernandopartridge said:
I hope Wasps go bust and SISU fuck off.

I want Wasps to fuck off and Sisu to go bust.

Terry Gibson's perm · Apr 18, 2015

I have just started to get emails from the club for the first time this season.

skybluetony176 · Apr 18, 2015

Moff said:
Both my kids of a certain age just laughed at the flags and how pathetic they were. Not all children are so easily bought.
Apparently wasps cant get rid of their tickets at my sons school, again not all children are so easily bought.

How are your kids bought. Are they paying to go to the next game. It's up to the parents. The one time (so far) I've taken one of my daughters she spent the first half waving my scarf around. I know for a fact if they'd have been a flag waiting for her on her seat she'd have been excited by that, waved it around all game and when we got home my other daughter would want one too. Which hopefully would mean I'd be taking both my daughters to the next game.

Weekends for me are family time and I will never apologise for that but what it does mean is that I never miss a mid week game but my weekend games are limited. But and it's a big but, if my daughters wanted to attend not only would I go to more weekend games (good news for CCFC) there would be two extra members of the JSB's and hopefully two more secured for the future.

It's these little things that the club never do that can make a big difference. I know the volunteers do a great job in the family zone but at the moment I only have one daughter who knows that. For the cost of a flag or maybe even a balloon (I think TF knows what they are) coming home with one child could lead to a whole family going.

So simple it's brilliant.

Astute · Apr 18, 2015

Terry Gibson's perm said:
I have just started to get emails from the club for the first time this season.

Offering you a cheap season ticket?

chickentikkamasala · Apr 18, 2015

oldskyblue58 said:
Here's a novelty for you. Answer my two questions clearly and properly and I will explain how it works. I think we would all agree that is fair

I am still waiting to read your reply RFC? or are you using avoidance tactic?

shmmeee · Apr 18, 2015

Moff said:
Both my kids of a certain age just laughed at the flags and how pathetic they were. Not all children are so easily bought.
Apparently wasps cant get rid of their tickets at my sons school, again not all children are so easily bought.

Man, when did your kids get so cynical? My daughter loved it, I like flags. I know happiness and celebration isn't "cool" for some on here, but for me it's kind of the point.

Nick · Apr 18, 2015

My daughter was sold with the personalised letter from Sky Blue Sam, box of chocolates, signed shirt and present off sky blue santa she got at Christmas off the club (and the free money box).

The first game she ever went to she got a football off Sky Blue Sam too.

I do agree though, something for the kids wouldn't go a miss at games and wouldn't cost much to do at all and could help with the atmosphere.

Mr T - Sukka! · Apr 18, 2015

Wasps PR - We will relay the pitch.
Outcome - replacement pitch instantly.

Sisu PR - We will relaease plans of the new stadium in the new year.
Outcome - still wating 4 months later.

Not hard to see whos winning this one!

Terry Gibson's perm · Apr 19, 2015

Astute said:
Offering you a cheap season ticket?

I wish, I think it was to say they are back in stock of screen wash

Or it may have been a reminder for my subs for the Steve Waggott fan club

rightumpty · Apr 19, 2015

- The club because of its previous disputes has devalued the PR it can get. Many are simply at the stage where anything said by TF/SW/JS is simply not believed

NO I don,t believe anything these shysters say

Hobo · Apr 19, 2015

rightumpty said:
- The club because of its previous disputes has devalued the PR it can get. Many are simply at the stage where anything said by TF/SW/JS is simply not believed

NO I don,t believe anything these shysters say

all the more reason for good PR and following it up by showing the PR had integrity.
they have wrecked their reputation, only they can rebuild it!

italiahorse · Apr 19, 2015

Ian1779 said:
The majority of fans think that a new stadium is a nonsense idea... and why wouldn't they when the club have produced very little evidence to the contrary.

The reality is that to go forward we need it, and it was confirmed as such in these articles, and it was the argument that Wasps produced for coming here in the first place.

These articles could have been pitched as 'financial expert confirms need for Sky Blues to have own stadium', or even 'Sky Blues must now follow Wasps vision and secure own stadium' and that would have put a different spin on it, more positive to CCFC and also provide a clear platform to challenge the club on.

I get the feeling that they either do not wish to do this, or care to.

I thought I saw an article saying CCFC should stay on the current 'excellent' deal.
Fans cannot relate to Sisu because the only output mentions 'news in weeks' when after 2 year nothing has happened.
I think Sisu have been out manoeuvred, they don't really have a plan and now they can't comment one way or the other.

italiahorse · Apr 19, 2015

shmmeee said:
Man, when did your kids get so cynical? My daughter loved it, I like flags. I know happiness and celebration isn't "cool" for some on here, but for me it's kind of the point.

I bet he's not looking forward to the 15,000 Ashley Johnson wigs for the Tigers game either

chiefdave · Apr 19, 2015

italiahorse said:
I thought I saw an article saying CCFC should stay on the current 'excellent' deal.

Was that the same article that said above our current level a new stadium was needed and not owning a stadium made us unattractive to potential buyers?

oldskyblue58 · Apr 20, 2015

What should puzzle everyone whether they believe the City must own its stadium or whether they believe a deal at the Ricoh can be done is why right now the club appears incapable of maximising the income streams it does have, or developing new ones.

The marketing strategy appears hap hazard and under funded at best, it does not come across as having a plan to it, more of a knee jerk reaction to a particular weeks events. Income is important short term not just in the longer term. Repeatedly we see opportunities missed and marketing attempts poorly funded.

But it isn't just about the money, it is also about being seen to be in the community at large, at being seen to be there. That does not happen by sitting back and waiting for disenfranchised fans to come to you. So yes they could put events on that might make a small loss in financial terms but they could profit greatly by being seen to be commercially or socially active locally, by being seen to compete with other sporting ventures rather than rolling over and complaining "it aint fair"

There is an old adage isn't there - "sometimes you have to spend to accumulate". That doesn't mean you have to waste money, it has to be targeted to get a return either financial or social but preferably both. Episodes like the trestle tables or the lack of shop stock indicate to me that they are unwilling to spend, that not only damages the top line but also the perception of quality and worth of CCFC. The successes seem to be volunteer led as in the kids corner for JSB's or by SBITC a charity which might be sponsored by CCFC but they don't put lots of funds in to it.

Why not think outside the box and try a few events. Why do we focus on the reasons it cant be done? The benefits that are most valuable are not always financial. Connect with the community, connect with the fan base, connect with business.

People keep going on about future incomes, incomes in a new deal, incomes 365 days in the year from our own stadium, but somehow overlook that income and its targeted increase are vital now. Vital to what happens on the pitch, vital to the survival of the club. The marketing and PR are very important in promoting/ensuring that and yet repeatedly it all falls well short. Why?

Terry Gibson's perm · Apr 20, 2015

I wish they could sort out the shop my little boy is 3 and has started to say that he is a Sky Blue (poor little fella needs to get ready for a lifetime of suffering) and there are no shirts etc, he wants one I would buy him one and they haven't got any seems crazy to me. I know we are launching a new one but they could have on the website coming soon new shirt etc instead of standing around the shop doing nothing. The shirt like the season tickets should be on sale straight after the last game or even now as I think years ago the team have worn the new shirt at the last game of the season?

torchomatic · Apr 20, 2015

The shirt thing is weird. We got ours OK last year. Then they had that break in and all the shirts were nicked and they've not managed to get any stock. Who's fault is that, the clubs or Pumas? Also, what happened to all those City shirts that were nicked?

Moff · Apr 20, 2015

shmmeee said:
Man, when did your kids get so cynical? My daughter loved it, I like flags. I know happiness and celebration isn't "cool" for some on here, but for me it's kind of the point.

My kids are not cynical shmee, they just dont like poxy flags.

They celebrate when City score and are very happy when we do well, if thats ok with you, and support the club, they just dont like pathetic Wasps flags.

Moff · Apr 20, 2015

skybluetony176 said:
How are your kids bought.

My kids arent bought Tony, thats the issue.

They support CCFC as its their home club, and because I support them and they realise if they want to go to games they can come with me, as its City games I go to see. They have brains themselves, and they chose to support CCFC, I didnt make them, like its their choice to not support Wasps, and I fully respect that.

Sky Blue Dal · Apr 20, 2015

torchomatic said:
Which is fine. However, it seems that the CT is helping Wasps' massively with their targeting and controlling of PR.

Strange you have not mentioned the blatant opposite with the Coventry Observer. Seen many of your post relating to it.

So its ok for them???

chiefdave · Apr 20, 2015

torchomatic said:
The shirt thing is weird. We got ours OK last year. Then they had that break in and all the shirts were nicked and they've not managed to get any stock. Who's fault is that, the clubs or Pumas? Also, what happened to all those City shirts that were nicked?

Complete guess but I would say its less that Puma couldn't supply them and more to do with the minimum order level. If we're having new kits next season they probably thought they were going to be left with loads they couldn't shift. If it was that they should have just come out and said it.

James Smith · Apr 20, 2015

hill83 said:
"Ooh, they sent a flag! Look mum a free flag!"

Fuck me

You could always burn it in protest.

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