Yeah. Thats my thoughts, but the only difference is we now have Grimes instead of Eccles. Is changing one player going to make it work effectively?
Why drop Rudoni? Sheaf getting a free pass again?
Torp says hi, PeteWould always look to play 4-2-3-1
So everyone fit it’s
Dovin
Mve Thomas Kitching Bidwell
Grimes Sheaf
Saka rudoni Wright
Simms
Bench
Wilson
Lati
Jds
Allen
Bta
Emc
Eccles binks or bassette or Patterson
Gosh there’s players missing out there.
Saka the only place up for grabs for me
I think we will stick with 3 5 2 tomorrow night but debut grimes in place of either Torp or Allen
I knew itTorp says hi, Pete
Grimes for Allen or Torp to rest them wouldn’t upset anyone woood itI think you might be right, especially with three games in a week and Grimes cup tied. Think there’s merit in keeping him on the bench as motivation for players to keep playing well and hold their place though. Also we’re likely to lose which gives you a free chance to change things without upsetting anyone.
We're not looking better with 5, we looked better with 4. More chances created and about the same conceded.This obsession with 4 at the back from some is odd considering we are looking so much better with 5 atm. Why change formation?
Don’t understand this mentality at all. I personally think that both Simms and BTA look much more threatening playing as a partnership than as lone strikers. I think the CBs look more comfortable playing the ball out with extra options in the back 3. And I think Torp and Rudoni look much more effective when given freedom to drift out wide and not worry about shoring up the middle of the park. None of that is possible if we play 4ATB with wingers.The main reasons behind our form in the 5 back haven't been the formation, it's mostly actually having a competent keeper and a reduction in individual errors plus generally better luck.
And I think Torp and Rudoni look much more effective when given freedom to drift out wide and not worry about shoring up the middle of the park. None of that is possible if we play 4ATB with wingers.
BTA and Simms won't both be playing when everyone is fit. Yeah, it is easier for the CBs but it makes us slower going forward. I thought Torp and Rudoni looked highly effective in the 433 when they were getting into the half spaces and making late runs into the box.Don’t understand this mentality at all. I personally think that both Simms and BTA look much more threatening playing as a partnership than as lone strikers. I think the CBs look more comfortable playing the ball out with extra options in the back 3. And I think Torp and Rudoni look much more effective when given freedom to drift out wide and not worry about shoring up the middle of the park. None of that is possible if we play 4ATB with wingers.
Hmm - I feel like we’re getting the ball forward quicker and more direct now, rather than passing endlessly around the back like we did at the start of Lampard’s tenure. And I think Rudoni and Torp are easily playing their best football of the season at the moment.BTA and Simms won't both be playing when everyone is fit. Yeah, it is easier for the CBs but it makes us slower going forward. I thought Torp and Rudoni looked highly effective in the 433 when they were getting into the half spaces and making late runs into the box.
Generally I just thought our chance creation was better and we were only marginally worse defensively.
We're not looking better with 5, we looked better with 4. More chances created and about the same conceded.
The main reasons behind our form in the 5 back haven't been the formation, it's mostly actually having a competent keeper and a reduction in individual errors plus generally better luck.
Keep seeing that acronym, what does it mean againThat and playing three of the most out of form sides in the division and stopping AAATB
Keep seeing that acronym, what does it mean again
| Stat | 433 FOR | 433 AGAINST | Diff | 532 FOR | 532 AGAINST | Diff |
| Goals | 1.38 | 1.25 | +0.13 | 1.60 | 0.60 | +1.00 |
| Shots | 13.50 | 9.75 | +3.75 | 12.20 | 13.20 | -1.00 |
| SoT | 4.63 | 2.75 | +1.88 | 3.00 | 3.80 | -0.80 |
| SoT% | 33.50 | 26.88 | 26.18 | 26.14 | ||
| Dist | 15.01 | 18.06 | -3.05 | 16.82 | 16.02 | +0.80 |
| xG | 2.00 | 0.84 | +1.16 | 1.46 | 0.94 | +0.52 |
| npxG | 1.80 | 0.84 | +0.96 | 1.46 | 0.94 | +0.52 |
| npxG/Sh | 0.14 | 0.08 | 0.16 | 0.07 | ||
| G-xG | -0.63 | 0.41 | 0.14 | -0.54 | ||
| np:G-xG | -0.55 | 0.41 | 0.14 | -0.54 |
Dovin
Stat 433 FOR 433 AGAINST Diff 532 FOR 532 AGAINST Diff Goals 1.38 1.25 +0.13 1.60 0.60 +1.00 Shots 13.50 9.75 +3.75 12.20 13.20 -1.00 SoT 4.63 2.75 +1.88 3.00 3.80 -0.80 SoT% 33.50 26.88 26.18 26.14 Dist 15.01 18.06 -3.05 16.82 16.02 +0.80 xG 2.00 0.84 +1.16 1.46 0.94 +0.52 npxG 1.80 0.84 +0.96 1.46 0.94 +0.52 npxG/Sh 0.14 0.08 0.16 0.07 G-xG -0.63 0.41 0.14 -0.54 np:G-xG -0.55 0.41 0.14 -0.54
Knocked up some quick stats to show what I'm talking about. "433" is stats from Cardiff H to Cardiff A. 532 is stats from Norwich A to Swansea A.
All per 90, sourced from fbref
Stat 433 FOR 433 AGAINST Diff 532 FOR 532 AGAINST Diff Goals 1.38 1.25 +0.13 1.60 0.60 +1.00 Shots 13.50 9.75 +3.75 12.20 13.20 -1.00 SoT 4.63 2.75 +1.88 3.00 3.80 -0.80 SoT% 33.50 26.88 26.18 26.14 Dist 15.01 18.06 -3.05 16.82 16.02 +0.80 xG 2.00 0.84 +1.16 1.46 0.94 +0.52 npxG 1.80 0.84 +0.96 1.46 0.94 +0.52 npxG/Sh 0.14 0.08 0.16 0.07 G-xG -0.63 0.41 0.14 -0.54 np:G-xG -0.55 0.41 0.14 -0.54
Knocked up some quick stats to show what I'm talking about. "433" is stats from Cardiff H to Cardiff A. 532 is stats from Norwich A to Swansea A.
All per 90, sourced from fbref
not the point is itWhat's the PPG comparison?
Cheers, I see what you're saying better now.Knocked up some quick stats to show what I'm talking about. "433" is stats from Cardiff H to Cardiff A. 532 is stats from Norwich A to Swansea A.
All per 90, sourced from fbref
tbh I think that is like 90% the keeper swap. Our xG against stats have actually got marginally worse. Collins PSxG stats were by far the worst in the league. 5 at the back has probably helped slightly in terms of having more bodies back to block and pressure though.Cheers, I see what you're saying better now.
For me, the standout is the goals against column - literally conceding half as many GA/90 in this current formation than we did playing 433. I know Dovin has been much better than Collins, but surely that can't be entirely down to one player?
not the point is it
really hard to leave Torp out, this just shows our strength in the middle now
point tallies over such a small sample of games aren't necessarily representative of actual performanceWhen debating which system is best, determining which one harvests the most points isnt relevant? OK.
point tallies over such a small sample of games aren't necessarily representative of actual performance
true but points are much more variable/chaotic than underlying statsI agree, and there's a whole host of other factors which can skew such a small sample size, though that could also go for the stats you put up.
Grimes and Eccles clinging onto those X and Y axes like goddamn barnaclesreally hard to leave Torp out, this just shows our strength in the middle now
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