What on earth do you expect with 10 menI’m glad they equalised absolutely boring from Arsenal
Roy Keane doesn’t agreeWhat on earth do you expect with 10 men
That was one of the best displays of defensive football I’ve ever seen.
The luxury of having the best squad of players in the league by a distance...Are we saying Man City wouldn't do that, personally I don't think so!
He’s such a contrarian prick at times. Funny but to try and pretend that wasn’t impressive is ridiculous.Roy Keane doesn’t agree
I bloody love when we do it. We need to do it a lot more.This is one part of football that I absolutely hate and feel is ruining the game. I really hate to see it and even hate it when we do it ourselves.
Oliver ruined the game just before HT. Arsenal just played the scenarioThis is one part of football that I absolutely hate and feel is ruining the game. I really hate to see it and even hate it when we do it ourselves.
All the feigning injury and time wasting etc. Keepers just falling onto the ball for no reason.
I really cannot abide it and it spoils the game.
Horrible to see as a spectator and no entertainment value whatsoever.
It's basically conning and cheating and anti-football.
Totally ruins the game for me.I bloody love when we do it. We need to do it a lot more.
Roy Keane doesn’t agree
Agreed. You will never stop teams from doing it of course, but it's effectiveness is so easily reduced by having referees actually prepared to enforce the laws that exist.This is one part of football that I absolutely hate and feel is ruining the game. I really hate to see it and even hate it when we do it ourselves.
All the feigning injury and time wasting etc. Keepers just falling onto the ball for no reason.
I really cannot abide it and it spoils the game.
Horrible to see as a spectator and no entertainment value whatsoever.
It's basically conning and cheating and anti-football.
When did wrestling become part of football too?Agreed. You will never stop teams from doing it of course, but it's effectiveness is so easily reduced by having referees actually prepared to enforce the laws that exist.
I have all the sympathy in the world for referees, it's a thankless job & they will get decisions wrong. All that I have no problem with, but their inability/unwillingness to manage this aspect of the game is infuriating. As long as teams continue to be rewarded for cheating, they will continue to do it.
There is a counter to this, everyone is adopting the pep mantra/template of football management and that is making me Sick tbf so not quite as black and white for me, but yes extremely frustrating?The Dark Arts?
It's a game of motherflipping football!!
Leeds used to do it all in the 70's and it was awful then and so dreadful to watch.
They would come here, score a goal and then just play act and waste time and try every dark art in the book.
It was the absolute opposite of entertainment.
I watched that game today and though I am not that keen on Man City, I celebrated when they scored.
Cheats shouldn't prosper (I am talking ON the pitch, before anyone pipes up )
Refs need to given the powers and incentive to nip it in the bud.
I am puzzled as to why anyone would be in favour of this kind of tactic, because all you do is get less football and we only get to see about 30 odd minutes in actual play at the moment, as it stands anyway.
When we think back to the POfinal that wasn't the same brand but we showed guts and determination, with a sprinkling of gold dust,this new style was exciting last season but this,its only 18 game's or so though!There is a counter to this, everyone is adopting the pep mantra/template of football management and that is making me Sick tbf so not quite as black and white for me, but yes extremely frustrating?
For a team to try to score a third and win the game, justice was done at the end.What on earth do you expect with 10 men
That was one of the best displays of defensive football I’ve ever seen.
Against Man City at home?For a team to try to score a third and win the game, justice was done at the end.
They could have left one up to try, I f it had been the other way round Man City wouldn’t have sat back, the negative play from Arteta is why they won’t win it unless Man City get a deduction.Against Man City at home?
They would’ve scored 4 or 5.
Fine, but where's the fascination with them keep rolling around on the floor, faking injuries?You're playing one of the best teams in world football let alone England and you do what you have to to try and gain the points
People forget that Arsenal had a lead to defend by virtue of having a go
Had they been losing at half time they'd have gone for it more and probably got hammered
Whilst it wasn't pretty to watch there was a certain fascination in watching them defending
Yup. Can't blame them for bending the rules to within an inch of their lives.Part of it could be easily erradicated
Any player stays on the ground for 10 seconds or more , automatically bring the trainers on so that player then has to leave the pitch for 30 seconds
No idea what to do about goalies falling to the floor after a simple catch other than implement the rules that already exist ie adding sufficient time on and booking persistent offenders
Swansea on Saturday took a full minute with each throw in and goal kick and including time taking the teams off for over 5 minutes how was it justified adding only 8 minutes
Until teams are deterred properly they won't change, why should they
think this is the most frustrating part. the rules exist but they aren't enforced. there would be zero point in time wasting if you knew that time was being added on but we all know it doesn't happen.No idea what to do about goalies falling to the floor after a simple catch other than implement the rules that already exist ie adding sufficient time on and booking persistent offenders
Said before, the only real answer is the scoreboard synchronised with the ref's watch, so the keeper could actually see that the clock has stopped and time wasting just wasn't working.think this is the most frustrating part. the rules exist but they aren't enforced. there would be zero point in time wasting if you knew that time was being added on but we all know it doesn't happen.
Apparently yesterday's second half the ball was in play 35 minutes , the most it has been in any pl match this seasonWould love to see them do a trial game with the clock being stopped when the ball isn't in play so it finishes on exactly 45 and 90 minutes. Game would probably take about 4 hours
Given that City were chasing the game & had 88% possession, that doesn't surprise me.Apparently yesterday's second half the ball was in play 35 minutes , the most it has been in any pl match this season
Nope, me neither. Arsenal were happy just letting Man City keep the ball.Given that City were chasing the game & had 88% possession, that doesn't surprise me.