Yeah I don't think anybody wants them to fail. World class player does not equal good manager.
Rooney has done ok. Lampard was average at Derby, awful at Chelsea and Everton. Gerrard did well at Rangers but terrible at Villa.
It’s not ‘wanting’ at all from what I’ve seen. Great, world class player. But managing Chelsea was massive for him, way too premature so early in his career. Everton wasn’t right for him either.
I think it’s because there just isn’t a sense of meritocracy when it comes to deciding who gets big management jobs. Certainly not in the same way as there is on the playing side. Seeing people like Gerrard, Lampard and Rooney being constantly linked with top jobs off the back of their football careers - which impressive as they may be, tell us very little about their management skills - is bound to invite some schadenfreude, especially if they go on to underachieve.People mock him but he is an English manager who had an excellent international career. Its a bizarre mentality - same with Rooney and Gerrard - why people want these people to fail I just do not understand
I like lampard , as a pundit he speaks tremendously well about the game , hes extremely knowledgeable, but Everton aren't in the position they are because of Frank, they have been mismanaged for years
It's at a boiling point
No it's not his fault they've been mismanaged, but Benitez had them in 16th with only being allowed to spend £1m.
Lampard spent £60m and has them in 19th.
They have sold their best player Richarlison since then
Yes but he still spent £60m on dross.
Benitez, who I do not rate these days, literally had a million quid to spend!
They have sold their best player Richarlison since then
Indeed. It's not about wanting them to fail, it's saying that just because you were a great player doesn't mean you'll be any good as a manger.It’s not ‘wanting’ at all from what I’ve seen. Great, world class player. But managing Chelsea was massive for him, way too premature so early in his career. Everton wasn’t right for him either.
Indeed. It's not about wanting them to fail, it's saying that just because you were a great player doesn't mean you'll be any good as a manger.
Lots of top managers weren't top class players, and that arguably helps them because it means they have to understand the game better if they want to be even a half decent player.
Same as defenders tend to be more into coaching/managing than attackers - the position needs a more rounded understand of positioning etc whereas flair players tend to be more spontaneous.
I like lampard , as a pundit he speaks tremendously well about the game , hes extremely knowledgeable, but Everton aren't in the position they are because of Frank, they have been mismanaged for years
It's at a boiling point
Don't think we can tell if Lampard is a good or bad manager yet, but we can certainly tell he makes shocking managerial choices.
Did well at Chelsea where he had to foster a team without the help of transfers. Would have said he stuffed it up when he had money to spend, but how badly they're doing under Potter (generally considered a bright young manager who could go far) suggests Chelsea also have issues beyond the manager, but their budget stops that being so obvious half the time.At Chelsea he has a reasonable win record. It’s safe to say Guardeolla wouldn’t achieve at Everton
The fact the owners even appointed Benitez shows how stupid they are. Everton are on the brink - a great club that’s facing oblivion
lampard could easily be an England manager in the future - he’s academically bright and has achieved at the highest level. Other countries would see him as a future international manager - not make dumbass comments
No.Id say Lampard and Rooney are potentially excellent managers - you?
If Southgate can get the job then any of these guys could easily do it.
No.
I'll admit Lampard can talk a good game but that doesn't mean he's any good at actually managing players to get want he wants across.
Rooney I think had a bit of a free pass with Derby given their situation, but I think overall he's pretty average.
I also don't think Gerrard will be a top manager.
They've been managing a while but age-wise are similar age to those.Fair enough - which English born managers are better prospects?
Wow, if people pay that the games goneAnthony Gordon refusing to train at Everton and seems to be trying to force a move to Newcastle but they are unwilling to pay the unbelievable £60 million price tag, having seen him play a few times somebody has added a zero to that six.
Wow, if people pay that the games gone
Anthony Gordon refusing to train at Everton and seems to be trying to force a move to Newcastle but they are unwilling to pay the unbelievable £60 million price tag, having seen him play a few times somebody has added a zero to that six.
Not mutually exclusive.Not sure what it is. Evertons absolutely ridiculous price tag on him getting to his head, or he’s just a massive c**t.
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