Oh god, he actually winces at the end of that video!
Not surpised the win aerage is low - when he joined the season was tailing off and we were clearly going to end mid-table, the players sensed that and results showed this. Same is happening this season. Wouldn't blame him forthat, blame the owners for inflicting two consecutive ten point penalties on the team.
He has only had 4 really good months when you look at results. Surprised he isn't getting a lot more stick to be honest.
Really hope sisu don't get an itchy trigger finger as we edge towards relegation. We need a bit of consistency in the managers position if nothing else.
Must say, I thought it was better than this....
Games 53
Won 20
Drawn 15
Lost 18
You can also thank ACL for that as well. I'm not sure how many other club's fans would have so much love for such a company. Typical self-loathing from our lot.
Not true - there's no love for ACL but everyone can see through SISU's words and what they're demanding of a third party, who have no obligation whatsoever to CCFC to make concessions, is entirely unreasonable. When people point out this smokescreen, they get accused of being self-loathing and "loving" ACL.
or for the good of ccfc, not sisu ?Why not? Was the stadium purpose built for ACL or purpose built for CCFC?
That doesn't necessarily mean the new manager is better. More asked built a young squad, they are now 1 year more developed and experienced. I know they lost Taylor in the summer but they may have used that money (and compensation from us getting Pressley) to buy 1 or 2 key players that have improved the squad. The squad and starting 11 may be different to the Pressley had. The teams relegated into that league may not have been as strong as the ones promoted and hence not stretching the lead. Perhaps there was an injury crisis which coincided with a poor patch under Pressley and the new manager has been luckier in terms of injuries this season. Lots of potential variables.
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That may be true, but also can't you also say the same thing for Pressley at Cov? If you cannot attribute the players improving under Holt because they were "developed" under Pressley, then surely to be consistent you then must attribute the success at cov to Robins Thorn & Rioch!
You cannot have it both ways! If Pressly is responsible for getting the most out of the squad this season, then you have to accept that Holt is getting the best out of his. And as such you would be forced to conclude Holt is doing a better job than Pressley! Otherwise you are not consistent in your conclusions, and therefore the conclusions cannot have any merit!
How do you know how much Falkirk have allowed the manager to spend? Besides Pressley has hardly been denied signing players has he!
Why not? Was the stadium purpose built for ACL or purpose built for CCFC?
CCFC couldn't afford to develop the stadium and it would never have been built if it wasn't for third parties.
When in need of money the club sold it's rights to match day income for a few quid. The club protected some of its rights with contractual buy-back clauses that were never exercised.
The club are where they are because that's what they deserve.
It would never have been built if it wasn't for the club. The council would not have built a stadium on the off chance that they might get the odd Heineken Cup game.
That may be true, but also can't you also say the same thing for Pressley at Cov? If you cannot attribute the players improving under Holt because they were "developed" under Pressley, then surely to be consistent you then must attribute the success at cov to Robins Thorn & Rioch!
You cannot have it both ways! If Pressly is responsible for getting the most out of the squad this season, then you have to accept that Holt is getting the best out of his. And as such you would be forced to conclude Holt is doing a better job than Pressley! Otherwise you are not consistent in your conclusions, and therefore the conclusions cannot have any merit!
How do you know how much Falkirk have allowed the manager to spend? Besides Pressley has hardly been denied signing players has he!
or for the good of ccfc, not sisu ?
They could have gone with Further retail or potentially solely for Exhibitions etc.
They could have gone with Further retail or potentially solely for Exhibitions etc.
About 38% win ratio.
Not bad given the constraints.
CCFC couldn't afford to develop the stadium and it would never have been built if it wasn't for third parties.
When in need of money the club sold it's rights to match day income for a few quid. The club protected some of its rights with contractual buy-back clauses that were never exercised.
The club are where they are because that's what they deserve.
Some would have you believe win ratios are absolutely everything
However you clearly have to look at the whole picture
Some would have you believe win ratios are absolutely everything
However you clearly have to look at the whole picture
For me the true ability of a manager should be measured over a reasonable period, SP has had just over 1 season in charge, after 2 more if he is still doing OK then I would be happy to praise him, as it stands the jury is still out.
I see a lot of positive signs but I'm a bit concerned over transfers, too many failures there, is it him or the lack of cash, only way to find out is to see how he performs on bigger budgets, but that isn't gong to happen under present conditions.
Even put into context Thorn, who you are obviously referring to, was a dreadful manager and his subsequent stay at Kidderminster reinforces that.
Agreed - every sacking this club has made, as far back as Adams, has been a knee-jerk rashly made decision.
While I agree with the sentiment of what he says, for example we are hovering above the relegation zone due to many reasons; loss of top goalscorers - one permanently, ten point deduction, etc etc I can't quite agree if he's referring to Thorn who was eventually found out. Kiddy found out a lot sooner to their credit.
By that logic Andy Thorn should still be manager! As for signings you saying signing fourteen players in a season is not being allowed to sign anyone? It is you Wumming using that logic.
The defence for Pressley seems to be shell shock from having to sack previous managers. Can you hanf on heart say any of the sackings were unjustified?
If you cant judhe a manager on results what do you judge him on. You are second guessing falkirk but not applying the same standards to cov!
In the context of Pressley I think it's perfectly valid, but I don't think it was Pressley he was referring to.
Wrong end of the stick mate!
I don't condone sticking with failure or mediocrity. I think my posts on Thorn just before he got the sack were along the lines of - give him 10 games & if nothing improves by then he has to go, SP has done OK, but remember Boothroyd was a hero at Watford on the back of 1 season of glory (got lucky with Ashley Young), since then he has done nothing of note in any job he has been in. So that's why I want to see a longer track record, to eliminate the flash in the pan scenario.
As for players, 14 players sure but probably all cheap options, and a lot have lasted only a short time, that tells me something is rotten somewhere, it is not normal to recruit so many players and then shed them or see them walk out. I think it is finances mainly, rather than SP's judgement, at least he recognised a weakness & has strengthened the scouting team, so he is managing the situation.
As for players, 14 players sure but probably all cheap options, and a lot have lasted only a short time, that tells me something is rotten somewhere, it is not normal to recruit so many players and then shed them or see them walk out.
To be fair you can only point to Manset and Slager. The majority of players who arrived and left were on short term loan deals.
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Wrong end of the stick mate!
I don't condone sticking with failure or mediocrity. I think my posts on Thorn just before he got the sack were along the lines of - give him 10 games & if nothing improves by then he has to go, SP has done OK, but remember Boothroyd was a hero at Watford on the back of 1 season of glory (got lucky with Ashley Young), since then he has done nothing of note in any job he has been in. So that's why I want to see a longer track record, to eliminate the flash in the pan scenario.
As for players, 14 players sure but probably all cheap options, and a lot have lasted only a short time, that tells me something is rotten somewhere, it is not normal to recruit so many players and then shed them or see them walk out. I think it is finances mainly, rather than SP's judgement, at least he recognised a weakness & has strengthened the scouting team, so he is managing the situation.
Have you never heard of our owners ? (their lack of support ).But you said that he should be given 3 years! You also point to Boothroyd having a glory season. To me either you back/ sack a manager based on current performance or you don't. His current form is 2 wins out of 10 - 3 wins in 2014.
Also you again are making an assumption. Didn't Pressleyu go on record praising every single player? Wasn't Slager on trial for weeks and still given a contract?
One or two maybe even three poor signings out of 14 happens, but how many of his signings have performed? Surely it would be better to sign one half decent player then 4 players you know aren't up to task. I just don't buy this exonerating Pressley of all blame. Surely he at least made the final decision. Why sign McGeouch - why is he still in the squad?7
I don't have a problem of getting rid as soon as you realise they aren't up to the task - but that is my point! Why is Pressley allowed 3 years, yet players 3 or 4 weeks! The rationalisation for sticking with Pressley is not based on any fact based reason, only a feeling that they like the manager! If that is the case fine, end of conversation, but my argument is that managers should be at least held as accountable as the players, if not more.
Why is Pressley getting such a free ride? I just don't get it.
Boothroyd was a hero at Watford on the back of 1 season of glory (got lucky with Ashley Young), since then he has done nothing of note in any job he has been in. .
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