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Preston Haskell at the Council yesterday ? (2 Viewers)

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  • Start date Aug 9, 2013
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mattylad

Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #36
people have asked how will ACL survive without CCFC...well it seems it will be on an injection of cash from PH4
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #37
Bill Glazier said:
Is it just me, but how do we know Haskell 4th won't be Seppala 2nd?
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Can only be as bad, not possible to be worse
So worthwhile risk for me
At least he has the balls to show his face
 

mattylad

Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #38
It was also stated early on that PHIV would take over the day to day running of ACL so it could well be a deal could be struck there but with the council retaining the free hold.
 

Senior Vick from Alicante

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #39
This is a big if but if the Higgs and Acl were sold lock stock and barrel to PH4 it could only be a positive. Although SISU would still own the club new negotiations could commence for a potential return as half the road block would be removed. PH4 has always been about not just ownership but redevelopment of the land in the surrounding area which is wear his expertise lies, that's why the council like him. It would mean no way back for SISU, their only option would be to sell or continuing to fund the losses which their investors would not allow. It is only an if but it would free up the council from this mess that they don't want, and let the charity get on with what they are suppose to be doing. NOPM
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #40
Unfortunately it may be a case of Mr Haskell buying a different business venture and half the Ricoh.
If SISU don't do the sensible thing...
 
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SkyblueBazza

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #41
Bill Glazier said:
Is it just me, but how do we know Haskell 4th won't be Seppala 2nd?
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We don't...I suppose some think ANYONE is better than SISU. Some think having JE/Hoff involved is a good thing...although they were initially involved bringing SISU in too. It's all anyone's guess what is best for the future. Lord knows...it might even turn out to be SISU!!!
 
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SkyblueBazza

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #42
sky blue zam said:
I see it as a positive that ph4 is always seen talking to joe Elliot. like him or not he does have ccfc interests at heart
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He might be talking about the weather?!
 
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SkyblueBazza

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #43
Senior Vick from Alicante said:
This is a big if but if the Higgs and Acl were sold lock stock and barrel to PH4 it could only be a positive. Although SISU would still own the club new negotiations could commence for a potential return as half the road block would be removed. PH4 has always been about not just ownership but redevelopment of the land in the surrounding area which is wear his expertise lies, that's why the council like him. It would mean no way back for SISU, their only option would be to sell or continuing to fund the losses which their investors would not allow. It is only an if but it would free up the council from this mess that they don't want, and let the charity get on with what they are suppose to be doing. NOPM
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I suggested the same a few months back...& Joy's visit to the US recently was post-CVA rejection...& I suggested maybe she went to meet with PH4 over there? You never know...if he can do the deal on the Ricoh, & has set the ball rolling with SISU - it could not only happen...but happen quickly!
Here's hoping...
 
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Snozz_is_god

New Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #44
SkyblueBazza said:
I suggested the same a few months back...& Joy's visit to the US recently was post-CVA rejection...& I suggested maybe she went to meet with PH4 over there? You never know...if he can do the deal on the Ricoh, & has set the ball rolling with SISU - it could not only happen...but happen quickly!
Here's hoping...
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Of course joy's vist to the US recently could be because.........wait for it...........she lives there!
 

Sisued

New Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #45
Agreed, but isnt it odd that Byng and Haskell are in town?
 

AFCCOVENTRY

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #46
@Lesreidpolitics: Ex- #CCFC director Joe Elliott confirms to me he was with ex- #CCFC Ltd bidder Preston Haskell IV in Coventry yesterday
 

ajsccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #47
Tell us WHY Les, you big tease.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #48
Tell us why Les you big girls blouse.
 
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SkyBlueScottie

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #49
mattylad said:
It was also stated early on that PHIV would take over the day to day running of ACL so it could well be a deal could be struck there but with the council retaining the free hold.
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That's what should have been offered to the football club
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #50
dongonzalos said:
Can only be as bad, not possible to be worse
So worthwhile risk for me
At least he has the balls to show his face
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Ken bates never shies from a photo perhaps we'd like him.
 
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CarpyCov84

New Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #51
Les Reid - ACL & Haskell seeking sports franchise
 

The Penguin

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #52
Grendel said:
Ken bates never shies from a photo perhaps we'd like him.
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I'd sooner castrate myself with a rusty scalpel.

Or better yet, castrate Bates with one.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #53
CarpyCov84 said:
Les Reid - ACL & Haskell seeking sports franchise
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Bye bye Coventry City then.

Sent from my Galaxy S4 using Tapatalk 2
 

The Penguin

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #54
torchomatic said:
Bye bye Coventry City then.

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Looks that way, doesn't it?

Don't begrudge them moving on if true, they have a business to run after all, but it hardly supports their 'we want CCFC here' stance.

I'm growing increasingly disillusioned with the whole mess with each passing day.
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #55
torchomatic said:
Bye bye Coventry City then.

Sent from my Galaxy S4 using Tapatalk 2
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So its finally dawned on you taken you long enough
 

oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #56
ACL have got to look to get other income sources in but I would not have thought that they have given up on CCFC yet. It might not happen this year but I wouldnt rule out CCFC coming back just yet

If CCFC dont come back then ACL have to look to their own business

Somehow cant see either ACL or Haskell cosying up with Les REid to tell him their plans. Think the guy puts things out sometimes to see if he gets a reaction
 
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ccfcmustang

New Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #57
As many of us have said before, as soon as that ball is kicked at 3pm sunday Coventry City will never be coming home. It looks like ACL will have a new tennant within 6 months, that rules out the phoenix club. Im lost for words Coventry has lost its pride and joy. Rest in Peace
 
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ChevyChase

New Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #58
I think they were all meeting to discuss how to stop Ian Calvert from pestering them
 

Skybluerevolution (Pt2)

New Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #59
I was not going to say anything , but since it has been mentioned on here - PH4 and Joe Elliott were in my bar having a few drinks and some lunch yesterday with 3 other guys, one was an older american gentleman, maybe PH Senior?
 
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RogerH

New Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #60
CarpyCov84 said:
Les Reid - ACL & Haskell seeking sports franchise
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Everybody jumping to conclusions here.

How do we know it's not a re-born CCFC that's being discussed ? Or maybe what the deal would be for CCFC to return if SISU sold out

Interesting that SISU have been quiet since the Judicial Review was kicked out, and the likes of Haskell and Byng are back on the scene.

Sounds like something is going on behind the scenes
 
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ccfcmustang

New Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #61
Im so not sure Haskell cares that much for the club, Hes into the property and retail side of the stadium thats where he will make his immediate profit. The hs2 railway sounds very high on his agenda also. I hope im proved wrong
 
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CarpyCov84

New Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #62
A new franchise...

Can't see it working Football is for me the most popular sport about and we barely get 10k for home games...
 
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JosePerdomo

New Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #63
Would love to think it's regarding CCFC but PH3 is a businessman and knows US sports well. And, will know that the NFL is looking at European expansion seriously, particularly UK expansion.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1663880-how-the-nfl-can-best-establish-itself-in-europe

NFL know that they cannot sustain 80k+ crowds at Wembley over a season so may be looking for a site within an hour or so of London with a 30-40k capacity.

Other options of course are Rugby Union or League.

Might be well wide of the mark but in this crazy soap opera anything's possible.
 

mattylad

Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #64
SkyBlueScottie said:
That's what should have been offered to the football club
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It was they didnt like the price so played silly buggers.
 

oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #65
RogerH said:
Everybody jumping to conclusions here.
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Got to agree

The les reid article in the CT http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/haskell-back-coventry-ricoh-arena-5686466 is pure speculation and to some degree designed to stir things up..... think how many will react to such news. Wasnt it the CT that published an article earlier this week that was 3 years out of date about a Rugby club being based there.

Plus plenty of stadiums have more than one team at them ....... even sixfields. Read the article there is a difference between a franchise and the stadium being used

At the end of the day ACL must make the complex work - what would you expect- doesnt mean ACL have given up on CCFC
 
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Manchester_sky_blue

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #66
I cant imagine that any sporting franchise ACL could realistically bring in would make enough use of the stadium to be the sole tenants. Even if Rugby League did go to the Ricoh there is no reason CCFC couldn't play there as well.
 
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Noggin

New Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #67
oldskyblue58 said:
Can I ask was Joy Seppala at the meeting with Ms Sinclaire because unless she was the reality is no CCFC decision maker was at that meeting

Perhaps the reason ACL/Council were not there was they saw no merit in the format etc arranged at very short notice or even that meetings had been arranged on other matters for that day or other meetings were more important or even that perhaps there were meetings arranged with Haskell - who knows. Am fed up with all the posturing on both sides. I suspect it was thought ACL/council would not attend from the start and this is just more steps in PR by one party or another

Surely as a very interested party Haskell should have had an invite to the "stakeholders" meeting she went to - he has at least just as much interest in being there as say Byng, Haskell did actually manage to bid after all

We have enough problems without people scoring political tit for tat points
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It was just Labovich at the meeting with sinclaire, im not clear if this is the same meeting Ian Calvert was sending out invites for though it was on the same day and included sinclaire, can't say I have much positive to say about sinclaire.

Meeting with haskell seems like a much better choice, at least there is hope there, acl and sisu havn't been able to get close to an agreement after dozens and dozens of meetings, if they couldn't get what they wanted from acl with before the cva what hope do they have now?
 
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Noggin

New Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #68
oldskyblue58 said:
Got to agree

The les reid article in the CT http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/haskell-back-coventry-ricoh-arena-5686466 is pure speculation and to some degree designed to stir things up..... think how many will react to such news. Wasnt it the CT that published an article earlier this week that was 3 years out of date about a Rugby club being based there.

Plus plenty of stadiums have more than one team at them ....... even sixfields. Read the article there is a difference between a franchise and the stadium being used

At the end of the day ACL must make the complex work - what would you expect- doesnt mean ACL have given up on CCFC
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Whatever you do, don't tell Les Reid that you think the local media have let the fans down, he got very grumpy with me. Was very damning towards the people who have done good investigative work like yourself, skyblue squirrel, Ian from 200%, saying not to believe anon bloggers who spout libel (even though I'd already pointed out that only 1 of the good blogs is anon)

Just to be clear he didn't refer to you guys specifically thought clearly was talking about 200%, prison of measured time and the football law blog, I just said that of the 5 most useful and informative people to the fans during this mess only 1 of them is local media and that is him. Then he ranted about anon defamatory bloggers and continued to do so after I told him only 1 was anon. He's a useful resource but I've gone off him greatly over the last few days.

Not very easy to have a discussion on twitter though, I told him to come here and we could talk properly but he ignored that tweet.
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #69
Grendel said:
Ken bates never shies from a photo perhaps we'd like him.
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Just the same as Joy but like you say at least he has the balls to look you in the eye whilst he does it
 
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true sky blue

Guest
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #70
haskell is buying the higgs half


meeting tonight between all parties - - city could still be at the Ricoh - . go ahead start the name calling, but the meeting yesterday was one i told you all about last week.
 
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