Sky Blue Harry H
Well-Known Member
Agree - sprat to catch a mackerel from the big 6. Complete shysters
Lots of good stuff then the kicker of handing over all power to the big six and the dodgy promotion from the Championship.
I’d scrap the cups and parachute payments tomorrow. The rest can fuck off.
Spot on from the DCMS but lets hope they stick with it and apply pressure on this.The Department for Culture, Media and Sport condemned what it called a "backroom deal".
"We are surprised and disappointed that at a time of crisis when we have urged the top tiers of professional football to come together and finalise a deal to help lower league clubs, there appear to be backroom deals being cooked up that would create a closed shop at the very top of the game," a DCMS spokesperson said.
"Sustainability, integrity and fair competition are absolutely paramount and anything that may undermine them is deeply troubling. Fans must be front of all our minds, and this shows why our fan led review of football governance will be so critical."
Surely Rick Parry will have to go, You would assume most of the EFL teams have lost what little faith they have in him.
The former Chief executive of Liverpool and prem does not have the interest of the EFL.
Judging by the Posh chairman's comments on talkSPORT right now...you are VERY wrong. Because there's no alternative option at the moment.Surely Rick Parry will have to go, You would assume most of the EFL teams have lost what little faith they have in him.
The former Chief executive of Liverpool and prem does not have the interest of the EFL.
The laughable thing about the big six is that none of them have managed to finish every PL season in the top 6. Some of them haven't even managed to be in the PL every season.His association with Liverpool needs calling out. He’s hardly unbiased. Liverpool and Manchester United hate each other apart from when it comes to screwing over smaller clubs. Personally I’d let the ‘big six’ piss off and carry on with the rest of the teams. They’re just angling for more tv money and a European super league, how that closes the gap parry talks about, I have no idea
Premier League not impressed -
Not sure how they reconcile this tbh.
I'd love for them to do a ESL without promotion and relegation and no participation in the national leagues. It would show how laughable the whole thing is, if a club had a few shit years you can imagine the outcry of the glory hunter fans, switching teams, revenues dropping. They are the big clubs now because they have the financial muscle to beat up on the rest of the league, just wouldn't happen once they finally piss off.The laughable thing about the big six is that none of them have managed to finish every PL season in the top 6. Some of them haven't even managed to be in the PL every season.
That's before you even consider the pre-PL years which many people seem to think have been erased from history.
If they split off and change the rules so their votes override everyone else what's to stop them having another vote a few months in to stop the new payments to the EFL?
Think its obvious to everyone that at some point the Champions League with become a full time European Super League, or will be replaced with one. If that's the end game just get on and do that. The debate then should be if it is a closed competition or should there be promotion and relegation.
Spot on from the DCMS but lets hope they stick with it and apply pressure on this.
I think any football fan in the country would tell you change is needed but the change required is essentially a move back towards how things worked pre-Premier League. Better distribution of funds throughout the game, no parachute payments and no sweeping up every kid who shows promise to either stagnate in youth football or be loaned out as a money making exercise.
I'd make the League Cup just for EFL teams. There's some big teams in the EFL and a realistic chance at some silverware and a trip to Wembley would be a bonus.
Can also see a case for less teams in the Prem. However the 'too many games' argument is completely undermined when the big clubs send their teams overseas to play in money spinning, meaningless, tournaments whenever there's a couple of days off.
Trying to push this through when lower league clubs are in trouble thanks to covid is abhorrent. Also anything that deviates from 1 club 1 vote should be dismissed immediately.
They should do a European tournament for the Championship.
Sky Blues away at Magaluf FC. What could possibly go wrong?
B teams will be back on the table soon probably.
I'm certain they already are in a fashion under this concept of increased loans to single clubs.
The 'big 6' will come to an arrangement with numerous lower league clubs forcing them to take 4 players each & ensuring they play every week.
The whole thing stinks, EFL literally selling it's soul to the devil.
As people have said let’s see how interesting a European league is when you are at the bottom of it all the time, all of the teams that dream of it are used to winning their own leagues and they all can’t do that.
On project big club or whatever it’s called I like some of the ideas but would go further on the relegation two down and up and the next four in the prem play off with the highest four left in the champ one off games winner takes all
As part of the project I’d like a ‘no tycoon’ rule to see Pep work his magic
I'd love to see a realistic salary cap and salary floor along with a limit on squad sizes that made the PL far more competitive. Its basically the same handful of clubs winning everything and the rest of the teams scrapping to stay up to keep a share of the money.As part of the project I’d like a ‘no tycoon’ rule to see Pep work his magic
I agree with you re the 'Champions' League. Let it become an actual league (hopefully with relegation and promotion). As an aside, a 24 team league is crazy. Nobody else in Europe has it, which is always a good indicator.The laughable thing about the big six is that none of them have managed to finish every PL season in the top 6. Some of them haven't even managed to be in the PL every season.
That's before you even consider the pre-PL years which many people seem to think have been erased from history.
If they split off and change the rules so their votes override everyone else what's to stop them having another vote a few months in to stop the new payments to the EFL?
Think its obvious to everyone that at some point the Champions League with become a full time European Super League, or will be replaced with one. If that's the end game just get on and do that. The debate then should be if it is a closed competition or should there be promotion and relegation.
I'd love to see a realistic salary cap and salary floor along with a limit on squad sizes that made the PL far more competitive. Its basically the same handful of clubs winning everything and the rest of the teams scrapping to stay up to keep a share of the money.
Think its counterproductive. You reach a point where people get bored of watching the same team(s) win everything. There was talk that the FA were having talks about exactly that problem and how it would impact future deals when Leicester came along and it all seemed to be forgotten about. It becomes the SPL with Rangers and Celtic winning every year and nobody else getting a look in.I’ve wanted an absolute cap rather than a % cap for ages but they will never go for it. They just want a cheque war
For even more reasons now, I would love to see a team outside of the top 6 winning the PL this season
Every TV deal should have a percentage trickle down through the professional leagues, to help benefit all.
EFL Cup should continue but without Prem teams.
Every team should have squad restrictions at the various levels and age groups. This might allow Champ and Nat 1 teams a better chance of getting hands on local talent.
Undecided on parachute payments? Can see both sides. What is needed is stricter control on what clubs can spend in relation to income and not spiral into debt.
If Premier League Clubs loan players out they should be responsible for the wage bill - to help get young talent competitive football.
Agree with all of that, for parachute payments I can accept some level of support for existing contracts. Maybe with a clause that they have to put players up for transfer (no idea how that would work in reality) to avoid clubs just keeping everyone on. But giving clubs a massive transfer kitty to come straight back up is bullshit.
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