That has to be the most Insane thing ive heard so far for a reason to stay in the EU. Absolute drivelShould have voted to stay in Europe if we didn't want a European Super League. Those who voted Brexit may have succeeded in ruining all our truly British football traditions!
Odd isn't it!
I'm sure other opinions are available. ;-)
That has to be the most Insane thing ive heard so far for a reason to stay in the EU. Absolute drivel
That was interesting hahaI have seen us play in Ibiza tbf
So if this goes ahead does anyone think this is the end of football as a working mans sport enjoyed by fans of all backgrounds ?
the shift now seems to be towards a few big clubs money driven with a common objective of an elite group of clubs across Europe Competing in a league run by the elite
Judging by the Posh chairman's comments on talkSPORT right now...you are VERY wrong. Because there's no alternative option at the moment.
So if this goes ahead does anyone think this is the end of football as a working mans sport enjoyed by fans of all backgrounds ?
the shift now seems to be towards a few big clubs money driven with a common objective of an elite group of clubs across Europe Competing in a league run by the elite
because clubs are over a barrel atm.Judging by the Posh chairman's comments on talkSPORT right now...you are VERY wrong. Because there's no alternative option at the moment.
because clubs are over a barrel atm.
How attractive would the proposal be if there was no COVID?
Been on the offing apparently since 2017 but no appetite for it.
How good will it seem when there is a return to normality and there's no way back?
It's like us ending up with SISU because there were basically 2 choices - them or nothing.
Whole thing just too shady when it turns out big 6 reps and Parry been meeting on the quiet for a period of time
So if this goes ahead does anyone think this is the end of football as a working mans sport enjoyed by fans of all backgrounds ?
the shift now seems to be towards a few big clubs money driven with a common objective of an elite group of clubs across Europe Competing in a league run by the elite
One of the ‘big six’ being relegated would make my year.For even more reasons now, I would love to see a team outside of the top 6 winning the PL this season
m also pretty flabbergasted at what right the "big 6" think they have to describe themselves as such. I wonder what teams like Leicester think, having won the Premier League, having someone like Spurs trying to walk all over them.
Its Americans behind this as well isn't it? They clearly don't understand football fans and are trying to make it the same as in the US. A closed off league with clubs treated more as brands than sporting entities.There was an American guy, i think in UEFA, who was making a noise about the Champions League going down similar lines a few years ago... said something along the lines of "we don't switch on the Champions League to watch Gent vs Wolfsburg... we want to watch Man United" despite them being nowhere near good enough to qualify that year.... which pretty much sums up the attitude Americans have to sport in general (and seemingly those running the top Premier League teams, and the EFL).
They may not understand traditional fans but at what point to become outweighed, in revenue contribution at least, by plastics from Beijing.Its Americans behind this as well isn't it? They clearly don't understand football fans and are trying to make it the same as in the US. A closed off league with clubs treated more as brands than sporting entities.
Look at teams like the Raiders and Yankees, marketing & merchandising takes priority over on the field performance. Big TV deals and corporate clients take priority over genuine supporters.
Would love to see FIFA and UEFA grow a pair and tell these clubs, and similar clubs in Europe, to get in line or they are out of the Champions League and their players are ineligible to represent their countries at the World Cup, Euros etc. Needs something strong or they'll just chip away until they eventually get what they want.
Thats exactly their thinking but is that sustainable long term?They may not understand traditional fans but at what point to become outweighed, in revenue contribution at least, by plastics from Beijing.
But there is Covid and we are looking at 5 to 6 weeks before teams start to go bust so you can see we it is seen as the only deal in town for a lot of clubs.
EFL clubs could 'disappear within five to six weeks' - Leyton Orient chairman
Some EFL clubs will "disappear within five to six weeks" unless they get financial support, says Nigel Travis, chairman of League Two Orient.www.bbc.co.uk
Thats exactly their thinking but is that sustainable long term?
The gap between is pretty big in the Prem League already, this plan would see the 'big 6' get stronger and stronger. Eventually interest in watching anything but games between 2 of those teams will drop off so you end up with only 30 meaningful games in a season. That's roughly one a week. How many broadcasters will keep paying out for games nobody is interested in?
And then how many fans of the non big 6 clubs want to watch their club getting annihilated every time they play one of them. Its short term gain for the current owners at the expense of the long term future of the game.
coincidence Orient boss lives in Boston and is a friend of JW Henry?Preston and Leyton Orient seem to be in favour as well.
Wasps are looking for sporting tenants!I think you may have hit on something there. One game between the big six a week. They'll engineer the fixture to ensure they're not playing each other in the same week so they can monopolise the TV market, make their own TV deals, demand falls out of the other clubs TV revenues and the discrepancy between those six and the rest becomes staggering.
Plus as those TV deals become worth less, less money is available to then flow down the pyramid.
However with the Yanks involved it'd be funny when one of them said "why do we have so many big teams in a small area? Let's move Man City to the Midlands or the South West.
That's where it's going. I reckon we might see a few mergers over the next few years, starting lower down the pyramid.
The real supporters can have their football league.
Some of the chairmen of certain football clubs in the lower leagues are backing this proposal as well. Fucking imbeciles.
I think it's a case of Accrington, Morecambe etc. never having an ambitions on the PL so not giving a shit what the big 6 do. Short term thinking in my view as they could just decide the rest of the pyramid get 0 income after a year if they wanted.Couple of quick points:
1. Could it not be that these owners/chairmen you refer to would rather not delay the inevitable so that the elite piss off to their super league and they get the football league?
2. It’s difficult to blame owners/chairmen of clubs who are weeks away from going bust and are potentially being given a lifeline. Would you rather fold now or continue, albeit potentially on life support, for a further 5-10 years and see what happens?
Couple of quick points:
1. Could it not be that these owners/chairmen you refer to would rather not delay the inevitable so that the elite piss off to their super league and they get the football league?
2. It’s difficult to blame owners/chairmen of clubs who are weeks away from going bust and are potentially being given a lifeline. Would you rather fold now or continue, albeit potentially on life support, for a further 5-10 years and see what happens?
They do... It's called the champions leagueI've often thought that the big 3, 4, 5, 6 or whatever they are in any given year should be encouraged to join a Euro Super League, but knowing that if they do that there is no fallback position for them in the English League. As pointed out elsewhere the supporters of all the likely teams in a Euro League expect to win week in week out, so for some it would be a rude awakening and test the support of their plastic fans.
While it might take a while for English football to reshape without the big 6, a more even contest could galvanize domestic football and retain a global interest whereby it could still hold its own. If it were to ever pan out this way I'd envisage it wouldn't be long before a few of those big 6 were begging to come back into the English League.
What I definitely don't want to see are the big 6 maintaining a foothold in both camps by playing teams in a European League & our domestic league. The remaining football clubs will need to stand strong against that ever happening.
I think there might be a vacant stadium somewhere in the Midlands where they might welcome the Manchester Sky Blues. Then watch Wasps suggest they don't need an inappropriate place-name in their title. They'll say it worked for them!I think you may have hit on something there. One game between the big six a week. They'll engineer the fixture to ensure they're not playing each other in the same week so they can monopolise the TV market, make their own TV deals, demand falls out of the other clubs TV revenues and the discrepancy between those six and the rest becomes staggering.
Plus as those TV deals become worth less, less money is available to then flow down the pyramid.
However with the Yanks involved it'd be funny when one of them said "why do we have so many big teams in a small area? Let's move Man City to the Midlands or the South West.
That's where it's going. I reckon we might see a few mergers over the next few years, starting lower down the pyramid.
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