Proper supporters fighting for their club (16 Viewers)

@richh87 · Feb 29, 2012

Blackburn fans marching to get Venkys out this weekend. Sparked by the sale of Samba.

If they had our fans there'd be quiet acceptance.

City fans are pathetic.

Colonel Mustard · Feb 29, 2012

What's the relevance of the article?

ccfctommy · Feb 29, 2012

Am I missing something? That link was a story about Chris Samba.

kg82 · Feb 29, 2012

Ah, generalising again - like saying all Americans are fat and thick or all Germans are efficient or all Aussies are arrogant. Not everyone's the same, not everyone falls into a bracket.

Grendel · Feb 29, 2012

@richh87 said:
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/7554555/

If they had our fans there'd be quiet acceptance.

City fans are pathetic.

I assume this is some kind of comment about Blackburn. If so for you this is something of a dilemma isn't it? Are you saying we should see thorn as being a cheap option forced on us by a clueless ownership consortium. If so I fully agree with you.

ashbyjan · Feb 29, 2012

I am glad we are rid of Samba - never going to break into first team, never even seen him on our subs bench. Keogh and Cranie doing well so good bye Samba.... or am I missing something???

ajsccfc · Feb 29, 2012

Claiming that only the people who share your personal view on something are 'proper' fans is pathetic.

Grendel · Feb 29, 2012

This thread is proving a hit....I was going to raise the pethetic comment as well. Are you a Jon gaunt type who does this to get attention or are you truly rude and divisive?

ccfctommy · Feb 29, 2012

I think Rich has posted the wrong link!

ccfctommy · Feb 29, 2012

And as for Blackburn fans being proper supporters. They were the ones who booed Yakubu after he scored and dared to celebrate with his manager. Mugs.

SuperFred · Feb 29, 2012

blackburn fans are cretins, hope they go down and steve keane gets the freedom of blackburn

skybluesteve76 · Feb 29, 2012

I think rich is a knob head! This proves it.

All the best

canleykid · Feb 29, 2012

Is samba sponsored by adidas I know its irrelevant but so is this thread,I mean who gives a shit

ccfctommy · Feb 29, 2012

I think this is what @Rich was referring to.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17211334

skyblueinBaku · Feb 29, 2012

ccfctommy said:
I think this is what @Rich was referring to.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17211334

Thanks, Tommy; now I know what Rich is on about. Weren't these 'proper' fans getting very personal, vitriolic and generally out of order in their campaign against Keane? If that's the case, I'm not sure that I want to be a 'proper' fan.

Sick Boy · Feb 29, 2012

At least people are beginning to see that they shouldn't accept SISU putting a scout in charge of our club.

I agree with the original poster, our fans should not be so accepting of it.

kg82 · Feb 29, 2012

Sick Boy said:
At least people are beginning to see that they shouldn't accept SISU putting a scout in charge of our club.

I agree with the original poster, our fans should not be so accepting of it.

So you know what everybody thinks do you? You might want to put that into practice, probably make a lot of money.

Sick Boy · Feb 29, 2012

kg82 said:
So you know what everybody thinks do you? You might want to put that into practice, probably make a lot of money.

Cheers, I will bare it in mind for the future.

oldskyblue58 · Feb 29, 2012

You know what I resent the implication that because I do not conduct myself in a similar manner to some Blackburn fans that I am not a "proper" CCFC fan. Judgemental generalisations are rarely helpful or accurate

@richh87 · Feb 29, 2012

Hi friends!

City fans are pathetic because they don't protest like Blackburn. You see the article mentions them marching as they've had enough of terrible ownership.

Our situation is far worse, however the majority remain apathetic and recently try to blame things on the manager - which ironically is very similar to Blackburn fans.

Not rocket science boys - just need to be able to read.

About time people fought for their club.

ajsccfc · Feb 29, 2012

Just need to be able to read? You posted an article about Christopher Samba then tried insulting people.

TheParsonsHose · Feb 29, 2012

I wondar what they mean by big though 1000 ? 3000? more, less?

Their pathetic attempt with banners was no better than ours.

oldskyblue58 · Feb 29, 2012

dont usually get involved in stuff like this but .....

@rich87 its just your opinion. Sweeping generalisation to call all CCFC fans pathetic (which would as it is a generalisation include your good self). It isnt all Blackburn fans and I would bet if they start winning then the number protesting will reduce. Trouble is most fans have no idea about club finances and are focussed on success on the pitch.

We dont know that we are in a far worse position in terms of managing the club or finances - dont have up to date figures from either club. Most fans dont want to know about the finances they just want players the club cannot actually afford on the pitch.

I dont think most fans blame AT and the fact he gets questionned about his decisions is not recent or unfair or unexpected. Should those comments be abusive - absolutely not but people are right to voice their opinion if they feel the need doesnt make you or them wrong or right

It is unrealistic to think AT has not made mistakes or contributed to things good or bad at CCFC

Would be kind of pointless being here if we couldnt read wouldnt it :facepalm:

Fight for the club by all means but denegrating our own fans is not going to help.

Sorry @rich87 but being judged has always been something that winds me up. Especially when someones opinion is expressed as if it is a fact.

just my opinion of course

skybluegod · Feb 29, 2012

i dont know about some of you no all of you but a select club i dont see how hurling insults at our own players and manger helps your s*** get off the field they need encouraging there our players, our job is to support them an get behind them. that's a proper fan.

rob9872 · Feb 29, 2012

@richh87 said:
Hi friends!

City fans are pathetic because they don't protest like Blackburn. You see the article mentions them marching as they've had enough of terrible ownership.

Our situation is far worse, however the majority remain apathetic and recently try to blame things on the manager - which ironically is very similar to Blackburn fans.

Not rocket science boys - just need to be able to read.

About time people fought for their club.

I'm confused. Are we "pathetic", "apathetic" or both?

Clive Plattini · Feb 29, 2012

rob9872 said:
I'm confused. Are we "pathetic", "apathetic" or both?

Haha. The classic misuse of pathetic. In actual fact we are probably both.

Pathetic means that people feel sorry for you. I hope people do feel sorry for us, I know my mates pity me for supporting Cov.

Covstu · Feb 29, 2012

@richh87 said:
Hi friends!

City fans are pathetic because they don't protest like Blackburn. You see the article mentions them marching as they've had enough of terrible ownership.

Our situation is far worse, however the majority remain apathetic and recently try to blame things on the manager - which ironically is very similar to Blackburn fans.

Not rocket science boys - just need to be able to read
About time people fought for their club.

Ah the same Blackburn fans that have been threatening their managers safety, great support.

rob9872 · Feb 29, 2012

oldskyblue58 said:
dont usually get involved in stuff like this but .....

@rich87 its just your opinion. Sweeping generalisation to call all CCFC fans pathetic (which would as it is a generalisation include your good self). It isnt all Blackburn fans and I would bet if they start winning then the number protesting will reduce. Trouble is most fans have no idea about club finances and are focussed on success on the pitch.

We dont know that we are in a far worse position in terms of managing the club or finances - dont have up to date figures from either club. Most fans dont want to know about the finances they just want players the club cannot actually afford on the pitch.

I dont think most fans blame AT and the fact he gets questionned about his decisions is not recent or unfair or unexpected. Should those comments be abusive - absolutely not but people are right to voice their opinion if they feel the need doesnt make you or them wrong or right

It is unrealistic to think AT has not made mistakes or contributed to things good or bad at CCFC

Would be kind of pointless being here if we couldnt read wouldnt it :facepalm:

Fight for the club by all means but denegrating our own fans is not going to help.

Sorry @rich87 but being judged has always been something that winds me up. Especially when someones opinion is expressed as if it is a fact.

just my opinion of course

Come on OSB, as usual you're being too nice mate Have a rant and if you think he's a c*nt then call him one

Grendel · Feb 29, 2012

@richh87 said:
Hi friends!

City fans are pathetic because they don't protest like Blackburn. You see the article mentions them marching as they've had enough of terrible ownership.

Our situation is far worse, however the majority remain apathetic and recently try to blame things on the manager - which ironically is very similar to Blackburn fans.

Not rocket science boys - just need to be able to read.

About time people fought for their club.

I can only assume you had a very liquid lunch to explain this idiocy.

The thing I find hilarious is that the Blackburn protests are aimed as much as the manager as the owners (something you admit even though you call us pathetic for not protesting). They do this as they feel agrieved that Blackburn have appointed a cheap unqualified manager who will get them relegated but at the same time go along with whatever the owners decide to do. Does this sound familiar to you?

What you do not seem to get is as OSB says most supporters are mature and savvy enough to understand they can influence very little at Board level and will instead choose to support the team on the pitch. Even those of us who see Thorn as part of the issue are understanding the role is difficult and restrict their observations to this sort of forum.

What are you suggesting. Mass riots, melt the Jimmy Hill statue, bomb SISU HQ.

Sorry but the Blackburn supporters behaviour is undignified and best and downright ugly and disgraceful at times. If our supporters targeted the owners or Thorn in this way I would be staying well out of it and offering them my unqualified support.

SydneySkyBlue · Feb 29, 2012

I can empathise with Rich on this.

Far more of our fans should indeed be angry at how badly our club is being run.

Instead many have come to accept the situation as 'the norm' due to years of perpetual failure draining any pride or fighting spirit out of them.

Supporters of successful clubs don't put up with it because they come to expect success. Anything else is a shock to the system.

Here at Coventry City though, we will accept it and even deride others for trying to do something about it.

The usual suspects will say that I am accepting failure by not slaughtering the manager like they do. The truth of the matter is though that their anger is misplaced because even they will admit that ultimately the buck lies with SISU.

Another common excuse for apathy is that there is apparently no alternative to our current dictatorship.

Well excuse me but what a load of apologist bollocks.

I can hear it already:
"If Hoffman's going to buy the club then why hasn't he done it already? Why the side show?"

If Hoffman's not trying to buy the club then what is he doing? And if he hasn't been successful then why aren't more of us putting pressure on SISU to sell the club at a more reasonable price.

Why do people think that Hoffman should be able/willing to throw a load of cash at it to prove himself?

The opportunity for the supporters to play their part has been laid on a plate by a media call to arms by Hoffman's people. Those that have responded have had banners and even balloons taken off them in an oppressive attempt to hush the discerning voice of the club.

You'd think that denying people their freedom of speech would cause more than a little uproar in this day and age but, again, nothing has been made of it.

If we were still a PL club SISU would not get away with the above but as it happens there is simply not enough media attention on our club for the world of the football to stand up and take notice. If there was though you can bet that supporters of other clubs would more than likely agree that our efforts have been 'pathetic'.

Grendel · Feb 29, 2012

What nonsensical guff.

Give 1 example of supporters who wouldn't let them get away with it and what they did.

SydneySkyBlue · Feb 29, 2012

Liverpool - Hicks and Gillett; and they're situation on the pitch had hardly changed!

Grendel · Feb 29, 2012

GinettasStickySofa said:
Liverpool - Hicks and Gillett; and they're situation on the pitch had hardly changed!

They were mortgaged to the hilt and wanted out badly. Also they had buyers with money. We seem to have "investors" who want the deal for free.
Man Utd - Glaziers no effect, Newcastle Mike Ashley - still there. Also doing rather well. So sorry don't buy any of that at all.

SydneySkyBlue · Feb 29, 2012

kduffy said:
They were mortgaged to the hilt and wanted out badly. Also they had buyers with money. We seem to have "investors" who want the deal for free.
Man Utd - Glaziers no effect, Newcastle Mike Ashley - still there. Also doing rather well. So sorry don't buy any of that at all.

Whether or not you think it had an impact, look at the reaction of Liverpool's fans to their club being run badly.

Manchester United and Newcastle have silenced their supporters by delivering on the pitch. It appears SISU don't need to worry to much about silencing ours. Just tell a few stewards to take some banners and hey presto. I'm going to assume that you weren't implying that success will follow suit under SISU...

Grendel · Feb 29, 2012

GinettasStickySofa said:
I'm going to assume that you weren't implying that success will follow suit under SISU...

Unlikely as they has not been any sustained success for 40 years. This ultimately is the problem. Liverpool is hardly the same is it? They have a product deemed worthy of investment and fans who support the club.
Our fanbase is about the size of Preston. Bradford have better support than us. SISU continue to bankroll the club. It may be far from perfect but they have excercised a degree of corporate responsibility by maintaining the club despite seeing no hope of even recovering a fraction of their investment. Protest? Time to show support in my view. Show potential investors a club worth taking a punt at by demonstrating some support.

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