Proper supporters fighting for their club (1 Viewer)
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Colonel Mustard
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What's the relevance of the article?
Grendel
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I assume this is some kind of comment about Blackburn. If so for you this is something of a dilemma isn't it? Are you saying we should see thorn as being a cheap option forced on us by a clueless ownership consortium. If so I fully agree with you.
skybluesteve76
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I think rich is a knob head! This proves it.
All the best
All the best
ccfctommy
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skyblueinBaku
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Thanks, Tommy; now I know what Rich is on about. Weren't these 'proper' fans getting very personal, vitriolic and generally out of order in their campaign against Keane? If that's the case, I'm not sure that I want to be a 'proper' fan.
kg82
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So you know what everybody thinks do you? You might want to put that into practice, probably make a lot of money.
Sick Boy
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Cheers, I will bare it in mind for the future.
oldskyblue58
CCFC Finance Director
You know what I resent the implication that because I do not conduct myself in a similar manner to some Blackburn fans that I am not a "proper" CCFC fan. Judgemental generalisations are rarely helpful or accurate
@richh87
Member
Hi friends!
City fans are pathetic because they don't protest like Blackburn. You see the article mentions them marching as they've had enough of terrible ownership.
Our situation is far worse, however the majority remain apathetic and recently try to blame things on the manager - which ironically is very similar to Blackburn fans.
Not rocket science boys - just need to be able to read.
About time people fought for their club.
City fans are pathetic because they don't protest like Blackburn. You see the article mentions them marching as they've had enough of terrible ownership.
Our situation is far worse, however the majority remain apathetic and recently try to blame things on the manager - which ironically is very similar to Blackburn fans.
Not rocket science boys - just need to be able to read.
About time people fought for their club.
TheParsonsHose
Member
I wondar what they mean by big though 1000 ? 3000? more, less?
Their pathetic attempt with banners was no better than ours.
Their pathetic attempt with banners was no better than ours.
oldskyblue58
CCFC Finance Director
dont usually get involved in stuff like this but .....
@rich87 its just your opinion. Sweeping generalisation to call all CCFC fans pathetic (which would as it is a generalisation include your good self). It isnt all Blackburn fans and I would bet if they start winning then the number protesting will reduce. Trouble is most fans have no idea about club finances and are focussed on success on the pitch.
We dont know that we are in a far worse position in terms of managing the club or finances - dont have up to date figures from either club. Most fans dont want to know about the finances they just want players the club cannot actually afford on the pitch.
I dont think most fans blame AT and the fact he gets questionned about his decisions is not recent or unfair or unexpected. Should those comments be abusive - absolutely not but people are right to voice their opinion if they feel the need doesnt make you or them wrong or right
It is unrealistic to think AT has not made mistakes or contributed to things good or bad at CCFC
Would be kind of pointless being here if we couldnt read wouldnt it :facepalm:
Fight for the club by all means but denegrating our own fans is not going to help.
Sorry @rich87 but being judged has always been something that winds me up. Especially when someones opinion is expressed as if it is a fact.
just my opinion of course
@rich87 its just your opinion. Sweeping generalisation to call all CCFC fans pathetic (which would as it is a generalisation include your good self). It isnt all Blackburn fans and I would bet if they start winning then the number protesting will reduce. Trouble is most fans have no idea about club finances and are focussed on success on the pitch.
We dont know that we are in a far worse position in terms of managing the club or finances - dont have up to date figures from either club. Most fans dont want to know about the finances they just want players the club cannot actually afford on the pitch.
I dont think most fans blame AT and the fact he gets questionned about his decisions is not recent or unfair or unexpected. Should those comments be abusive - absolutely not but people are right to voice their opinion if they feel the need doesnt make you or them wrong or right
It is unrealistic to think AT has not made mistakes or contributed to things good or bad at CCFC
Would be kind of pointless being here if we couldnt read wouldnt it :facepalm:
Fight for the club by all means but denegrating our own fans is not going to help.
Sorry @rich87 but being judged has always been something that winds me up. Especially when someones opinion is expressed as if it is a fact.
just my opinion of course
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skybluegod
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i dont know about some of you no all of you but a select club i dont see how hurling insults at our own players and manger helps your s*** get off the field they need encouraging there our players, our job is to support them an get behind them. that's a proper fan.
rob9872
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I'm confused. Are we "pathetic", "apathetic" or both?
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Clive Plattini
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Haha. The classic misuse of pathetic. In actual fact we are probably both.
Pathetic means that people feel sorry for you. I hope people do feel sorry for us, I know my mates pity me for supporting Cov.
Covstu
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Ah the same Blackburn fans that have been threatening their managers safety, great support.
rob9872
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Come on OSB, as usual you're being too nice mate Have a rant and if you think he's a c*nt then call him one
Grendel
Well-Known Member
I can only assume you had a very liquid lunch to explain this idiocy.
The thing I find hilarious is that the Blackburn protests are aimed as much as the manager as the owners (something you admit even though you call us pathetic for not protesting). They do this as they feel agrieved that Blackburn have appointed a cheap unqualified manager who will get them relegated but at the same time go along with whatever the owners decide to do. Does this sound familiar to you?
What you do not seem to get is as OSB says most supporters are mature and savvy enough to understand they can influence very little at Board level and will instead choose to support the team on the pitch. Even those of us who see Thorn as part of the issue are understanding the role is difficult and restrict their observations to this sort of forum.
What are you suggesting. Mass riots, melt the Jimmy Hill statue, bomb SISU HQ.
Sorry but the Blackburn supporters behaviour is undignified and best and downright ugly and disgraceful at times. If our supporters targeted the owners or Thorn in this way I would be staying well out of it and offering them my unqualified support.
SydneySkyBlue
Member
I can empathise with Rich on this.
Far more of our fans should indeed be angry at how badly our club is being run.
Instead many have come to accept the situation as 'the norm' due to years of perpetual failure draining any pride or fighting spirit out of them.
Supporters of successful clubs don't put up with it because they come to expect success. Anything else is a shock to the system.
Here at Coventry City though, we will accept it and even deride others for trying to do something about it.
The usual suspects will say that I am accepting failure by not slaughtering the manager like they do. The truth of the matter is though that their anger is misplaced because even they will admit that ultimately the buck lies with SISU.
Another common excuse for apathy is that there is apparently no alternative to our current dictatorship.
Well excuse me but what a load of apologist bollocks.
I can hear it already:
"If Hoffman's going to buy the club then why hasn't he done it already? Why the side show?"
If Hoffman's not trying to buy the club then what is he doing? And if he hasn't been successful then why aren't more of us putting pressure on SISU to sell the club at a more reasonable price.
Why do people think that Hoffman should be able/willing to throw a load of cash at it to prove himself?
The opportunity for the supporters to play their part has been laid on a plate by a media call to arms by Hoffman's people. Those that have responded have had banners and even balloons taken off them in an oppressive attempt to hush the discerning voice of the club.
You'd think that denying people their freedom of speech would cause more than a little uproar in this day and age but, again, nothing has been made of it.
If we were still a PL club SISU would not get away with the above but as it happens there is simply not enough media attention on our club for the world of the football to stand up and take notice. If there was though you can bet that supporters of other clubs would more than likely agree that our efforts have been 'pathetic'.
Far more of our fans should indeed be angry at how badly our club is being run.
Instead many have come to accept the situation as 'the norm' due to years of perpetual failure draining any pride or fighting spirit out of them.
Supporters of successful clubs don't put up with it because they come to expect success. Anything else is a shock to the system.
Here at Coventry City though, we will accept it and even deride others for trying to do something about it.
The usual suspects will say that I am accepting failure by not slaughtering the manager like they do. The truth of the matter is though that their anger is misplaced because even they will admit that ultimately the buck lies with SISU.
Another common excuse for apathy is that there is apparently no alternative to our current dictatorship.
Well excuse me but what a load of apologist bollocks.
I can hear it already:
"If Hoffman's going to buy the club then why hasn't he done it already? Why the side show?"
If Hoffman's not trying to buy the club then what is he doing? And if he hasn't been successful then why aren't more of us putting pressure on SISU to sell the club at a more reasonable price.
Why do people think that Hoffman should be able/willing to throw a load of cash at it to prove himself?
The opportunity for the supporters to play their part has been laid on a plate by a media call to arms by Hoffman's people. Those that have responded have had banners and even balloons taken off them in an oppressive attempt to hush the discerning voice of the club.
You'd think that denying people their freedom of speech would cause more than a little uproar in this day and age but, again, nothing has been made of it.
If we were still a PL club SISU would not get away with the above but as it happens there is simply not enough media attention on our club for the world of the football to stand up and take notice. If there was though you can bet that supporters of other clubs would more than likely agree that our efforts have been 'pathetic'.
SydneySkyBlue
Member
Liverpool - Hicks and Gillett; and they're situation on the pitch had hardly changed!
Grendel
Well-Known Member
They were mortgaged to the hilt and wanted out badly. Also they had buyers with money. We seem to have "investors" who want the deal for free.
Man Utd - Glaziers no effect, Newcastle Mike Ashley - still there. Also doing rather well. So sorry don't buy any of that at all.
SydneySkyBlue
Member
Whether or not you think it had an impact, look at the reaction of Liverpool's fans to their club being run badly.
Manchester United and Newcastle have silenced their supporters by delivering on the pitch. It appears SISU don't need to worry to much about silencing ours. Just tell a few stewards to take some banners and hey presto. I'm going to assume that you weren't implying that success will follow suit under SISU...
Grendel
Well-Known Member
Unlikely as they has not been any sustained success for 40 years. This ultimately is the problem. Liverpool is hardly the same is it? They have a product deemed worthy of investment and fans who support the club.
Our fanbase is about the size of Preston. Bradford have better support than us. SISU continue to bankroll the club. It may be far from perfect but they have excercised a degree of corporate responsibility by maintaining the club despite seeing no hope of even recovering a fraction of their investment. Protest? Time to show support in my view. Show potential investors a club worth taking a punt at by demonstrating some support.