I suggested this and got berated. Hope you have more luck, it makes a lot of sense.
Aint gonna happen in the ground.
People just wont travel there in numbers, wont go in, wont give Sisu their money; at best it'll be completely half cocked and may even turn nasty between fans and counterproductive....
and call me a cynic but 'Sisu apologists' seem to be mighty keen to get people in the ground on some pretext or other, some might think there's another agenda.... :0)
So either those going do something; or a demo at FL, or some coordinated social media targeting of the FL??? [might be better than us just arguing on here!]
I ain't no SISU apologist, I just know if games end up televised protests in a ground get far more attention than those outside...
Or we can just divide people for having an opinion that doesn't tally, eh? If you really think a one-off £9 off a few is SISU's salvation... a fair few handed more over for Arsenal after all.
Plus a couple of us have even said we'd go outside if needs be.
There's some compromise, something SISU don't show... shame our fans need to butt heads too.
Wasn't keen when first suggested Mark (don't think I berated), but starting to come round to the idea. I would think Wolves fans are already looking at tickets for this. Could be quite chaotic if organised properly (bit of an oxymoron there, but you know what I mean)
I gave you my opinion, people wont go in, if they do in numbers you would probably get the place completely trashed... I guess that would make the news...
If there is something planned for the wolves match, can it help if everybody that goes pays on the gate. Wolves would probably be given as many as they want and then potentially there could be hundreds outside for the police to deal with.
If there is something planned for the wolves match, can it help if everybody that goes pays on the gate. Wolves would probably be given as many as they want and then potentially there could be hundreds outside for the police to deal with.
Last two home games of the season, one all in and one all out.
They may well not go in.
They didn't go on the hill either for Sheff Utd however.
So there ended up bugger all, all so people could proudly stick to their principles, and refuse to move one inch. And nobody will go to anything if the instant answer is just 'nope' to any idea.
Makes us as bad as SISU/ACL/council/insert troublecauser of choice.
I have suggested some coordinated social media action and maybe a demo against the FL /FA.
A problem remains those going in to Sixfields arent interested in any protest.
I'd be up for a one off protest in or out the ground. Wolves is the last chance to influence anyone really before the ground is decided fr next season.
Get a few coaches laid on by various fans groups, taking people whether they're going in or not. A show of SBA unity. Get banners and flags and bands on the hill, the works. Why not?
shmmee, do you have any idea if the Trust might be willing to lead on this? Not doing something for the Wolves game seems wrong but just the signs at Arsenal had me on the verge of a nervous breakdown (the week before I was ready to call it off!) Last summer's march showed how fantastic the Trust is at organising big events and the fighting fund must be looking pretty healthy so could they even do free coaches? Wolves is one that would need to be done properly and I don't see that a kcic wing and a prayer approach would work whereas the Trust would make a really good job of it
I have suggested some coordinated social media action and maybe a demo against the FL /FA. KCIC have done stuff as have the Trust.
A problem remains those going in to Sixfields arent interested in any protest.
Anyhows, I wouldnt be surprised if some might go with the Wolves game idea. But it is very likely the place will get trashed, just sayin' !
At least one person who goes to Sixfields on here is very much up for this. In fact most on here seem up for it regardless of if they go or not. Pack inside and outside and it would send a message. And if something could be dreamt up that could delay the start of the game then that would be even better in terms of media coverage.
I simply won't go to Sixfields and I don''t intend to encourage anyone else to, NOPM is the only way to pressurise SISU, if they had a sell out they would be pissing themselves laughing at us.
Let's get 30k there
Let's get 30k there
I simply won't go to Sixfields and I don''t intend to encourage anyone else to, NOPM is the only way to pressurise SISU, if they had a sell out they would be pissing themselves laughing at us.
I simply won't go to Sixfields and I don''t intend to encourage anyone else to, NOPM is the only way to pressurise SISU, if they had a sell out they would be pissing themselves laughing at us.
The best way is to show them what they could have had, get the place swarming, pack inside and outside. Make it a logistical nightmare
So the question is... how do you do that?
How do you first sell the idea to the people prepared to travel to MK and Arsenal... and more besides?
How do you co-ordinate the going in to the ground? I'd happily buy a ticket for a proper protest, but I'm not going to be a pillock and be the only one in there(!) Safety in numbers and all that, and suspect I'm not alone... so how do you build momentum for both IN and OUT?
Further to that, how do you do your best to stop the club interfering and trying to cut it? Or do you hope that poorly attended efforts to date make them take their eye off the ball?
What's the message?
And who organises it too? I'd tend to agree with Michael, the Trust really should, but are they prepared to? Under what circumstances *are* they prepared to?
Co-ordinated effort to get people there?
And the biggie... if few sign up to the idea, prepared to cut it and move on to something else?
You can join those on the hill then.
any protest that requires 5000+ people to spend an hour + in the car and spend about £20 half of which is going to the people they are protesting against is just not going to happen, all you will achieve by attempting it is to put a few hundred more on the sixfields gate which does nothing but harm the boycott.
I have no issue with attempting protests that might not work out but not when it failing is actually harmful.
An ideal protest is one that works well with a few hundred and gets better with more and more, then you succeed whatever, any protest that starts with lets give money to sisu is going to have significant opposition and it's not going to be possible to pull off.
Honestly there is no protest that makes everyone happy, trying to do so is going to make it more likely to fail imo. Chose a protest that you can easily gets hundreds to agree with and then you'll probably end up with thousands as people tell their friends.
any protest that requires 5000+ people to spend an hour + in the car and spend about £20 half of which is going to the people they are protesting against is just not going to happen, all you will achieve by attempting it is to put a few hundred more on the sixfields gate which does nothing but harm the boycott.
I have no issue with attempting protests that might not work out but not when it failing is actually harmful.
An ideal protest is one that works well with a few hundred and gets better with more and more, then you succeed whatever, any protest that starts with lets give money to sisu is going to have significant opposition and it's not going to be possible to pull off.
Honestly there is no protest that makes everyone happy, trying to do so is going to make it more likely to fail imo. Chose a protest that you can easily gets hundreds to agree with and then you'll probably end up with thousands as people tell their friends.
and call me a cynic but 'Sisu apologists' seem to be mighty keen to get people in the ground on some pretext or other, some might think there's another agenda.... :0)
Noggin if they don't get the Money from us they will from the wolves fans ,just like if we'd boycotted arsenal they would still have had reciepts from 60K. gunners.
perhaps but even ignoring the benefit to sisu, getting thousands of people who wouldn't have traveled to go to northampton just to protest has almost no chance of working.
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