?Kingokings204
Well-Known Member
It breaks my heart too but it's the only solution to this mess. I am a true fan and whilst not actively doing nopm I find myself doing it through poor results and product on the pitch.
Right sisu are the problem here and are at the root cause of everything. They need to go. How will they go? By giving them no money. If they have to start funding from their own pocket for these pointless appeals etc then they will soon give up.
Northampton nopm worked as looked at the result to coming back. Sisu don't want to pay their own money to legally assault the council. Investors won't allow it. The plan was and is still to break even the club so the money in pays for the council legals and team and let it all tick along for a few years. If 200 people turned up for the Ricoh for the opening game of the season and every game after they wouldn't last the year.
Sorry to anyone who doesn't agree with this and I don't want to but people are just going less anything not actively doing nopm like me but its crap football and we get beat most weeks.
Gosford Green
Well-Known Member
The owners are a plague on a wall in Mayfair. Fisher and Waggot are paid to deal with any local difficulties and they occasionally bring in sub-contractors like Les Reid and that woman who looked like Glenn Hoddle, she was an MEP quite out there on the right of politics.
As much as I agree with this letter it will be no more inconvenience to Joy than mice in the attic.
As much as I agree with this letter it will be no more inconvenience to Joy than mice in the attic.
skybluepm2
Well-Known Member
Especially one who he can be proud of,..
oldskyblue58
CCFC Finance Director
I think the letter certainly expresses many frustrations held by the fans (including me) but does it more as a rant than a well constructed communication. It closes doors and invites only a negative response (ie no reponse, or a simple no) It offers no engagement and like it or not for SISU to go the pressure groups must have a mechanism for engaging with the owners on some level if for no other reason than to know asap in detail what they will leave behind should they sell up.
That said SISU have repeatedly shown that the views and wishes of the fans come low down their list of priorities, especially dissenting voices.
Reducing it to personalities doesn't solve the problem though because SISU have their strategy and Fisher has been the shield behind which that strategy has been allowed to perform (however badly). Get rid of him and I would think someone else would take his place providing the same shield. The control, the decisions that are important are governed in London not in Fishers office in Ryton.
I think it is pretty clear that SISU/ARVO are not providing any more funding. The five point plan alluded to that didn't it. In which case the club has to develop its own budget to work within. Yes NOPM whether intentional or by not liking the product has an effect but the likely effect is probably going to be the quality on the pitch. I do not see SISU leaving until after 7 July and the oral appeal hearing at the earliest, there is a strong possibility that it will be much later. They have parked the CCFC investment it isn't costing them more and I suspect they have been able pay back some interest or capital.
Will be interesting to see if the accounts get filed at the end of the month.......
That said SISU have repeatedly shown that the views and wishes of the fans come low down their list of priorities, especially dissenting voices.
Reducing it to personalities doesn't solve the problem though because SISU have their strategy and Fisher has been the shield behind which that strategy has been allowed to perform (however badly). Get rid of him and I would think someone else would take his place providing the same shield. The control, the decisions that are important are governed in London not in Fishers office in Ryton.
I think it is pretty clear that SISU/ARVO are not providing any more funding. The five point plan alluded to that didn't it. In which case the club has to develop its own budget to work within. Yes NOPM whether intentional or by not liking the product has an effect but the likely effect is probably going to be the quality on the pitch. I do not see SISU leaving until after 7 July and the oral appeal hearing at the earliest, there is a strong possibility that it will be much later. They have parked the CCFC investment it isn't costing them more and I suspect they have been able pay back some interest or capital.
Will be interesting to see if the accounts get filed at the end of the month.......
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Ian1779
Well-Known Member
I've raised this point with both the SBT and this new protest group. But the fact is that because it is not the populist view they are not interested.
Far too interested in gaining popularity than looking at building any kind of constructive approach.
You may well argue that trying to engage them may well be fruitless.. and you could be right. But we know damn well they won't respond to this rant and will ignore it.. so sometimes a different approach is worth a try if the current way is not successful.
By trying to open a positive dialogue does not mean you become a SISU sympathist or lover...
I quite like the letter as it is to the point and clearly states what the paying public are thinking, maybe should of been addressed to Joy though as she makes the decisions, and maybe removing Fisher from this position would slowly help build bridges.
However, it is to the point and posters saying it will only achieve a negative response and should of been constructive, well what response has any of their bullshit achieved ? a negative response, play fire with fire, we have been shat on for too long as a fan base and many have forgotten this.
Why treat them with respect when they clearly clearly do not respect us.
However, it is to the point and posters saying it will only achieve a negative response and should of been constructive, well what response has any of their bullshit achieved ? a negative response, play fire with fire, we have been shat on for too long as a fan base and many have forgotten this.
Why treat them with respect when they clearly clearly do not respect us.
jimmyhillsfanclub
Well-Known Member
Its just another pointless letter.....
...The authors may as well just post their pointless little rants on here like we do..........or does than not garner them enough backslapping attention & social media love?
...The authors may as well just post their pointless little rants on here like we do..........or does than not garner them enough backslapping attention & social media love?