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AFCCOVENTRY · Mar 25, 2013

There seems to be a lot of questions on all sorts from fans and I was thinking rather than various threads asking PWKH loads of questions, that I am willing to compile the questions into one list.

PWKH - Peter, would you be willing to answer questions from CCFC fans if I can compile them into one list for you and in your own time as I know you are very busy right now, if you would mind answering them the best you can? I understand some questions maybe commercially sensitive and that is your call on whether to answer or not.

CCFC fans - please post your questions on this thread and I am giving a deadline of 5pm today and I will compile into one list of questions for Peter to reply to.

Thank you all and thank you Peter for taking time to speak with fans.

Kind regards

ggrady · Mar 25, 2013

Why is your name Pwkh?

LarryGrayson · Mar 25, 2013

why 5pm today that ant long enough for me to ask the right questions rather then any old question

Mucca Mad Boys · Mar 25, 2013

ggrady said:
Why is your name Pwkh?

It's his initials.

skyblu3sk · Mar 25, 2013

The trust already asked a load http://www.skybluetrust.co.uk/index...s/218-questions-and-answers-with-acl-and-ccfc

dongonzalos · Mar 25, 2013

Unbelievable, have those who defend SISU's position in all this seen that link!

Danceswithhorses · Mar 25, 2013

dongonzalos said:
Unbelievable, have those who defend SISU's position in all this seen that link!

I believe it was posted on here in full last week....but yes it's very revealing

dongonzalos · Mar 25, 2013

Danceswithhorses said:
I believe it was posted on here in full last week....but yes it's very revealing

I completely missed it somehow.

One side open and transparent other side

I will do an interview give you answers then not allow you to publish them.

Yet some still side with SISU in all if this incredible

LarryGrayson · Mar 25, 2013

why shud sisu not allowing answers be published before a court case be wrong seems like common sense to me

dongonzalos · Mar 25, 2013

LarryGrayson said:
why shud sisu not allowing answers be published before a court case be wrong seems like common sense to me

If your answers are the truth and you are defending you position and the answers actually support your position in court.
You would do what ACL did.

covcity4life · Mar 25, 2013

dongonzalos said:
I completely missed it somehow.

One side open and transparent other side

I will do an interview give you answers then not allow you to publish them.

Yet some still side with SISU in all if this incredible

you still side with thorn though :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

rupert_bear · Mar 25, 2013

LarryGrayson said:
why shud sisu not allowing answers be published before a court case be wrong seems like common sense to me

Will the SBT publish those sisu answers Wednesday ?

SkyBlueScottie · Mar 25, 2013

"ACL would be willing to give CCFC full details of the F & B accounts and were prepared to go open book and even allow CCFC to use the revenue figures in the clubs FFP calculations?"

Does that mean we can "use" the figures but not get any of the cash?

dongonzalos · Mar 25, 2013

rupert_bear said:
Will the SBT publish those sisu answers Wednesday ?

Top point!

dongonzalos · Mar 25, 2013

SkyBlueScottie said:
"ACL would be willing to give CCFC full details of the F & B accounts and were prepared to go open book and even allow CCFC to use the revenue figures in the clubs FFP calculations?"

Does that mean we can "use" the figures but not get any of the cash?

What was SISU's reply?

LarryGrayson · Mar 25, 2013

rupert_bear said:
Will the SBT publish those sisu answers Wednesday ?

you think itll all be sorted out by wedsnesday?

dongonzalos · Mar 25, 2013

covcity4life said:
you still side with thorn though :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

Just open minded enough to know you can't judge a manager over three games.

He may have been good or bad this season

Tim said no more sacking managers. Took responsibility for the relegation of last season as most on here agree.

Then sacked Thorn after three games we then lost 5 on the bounce.

Whichever way you look at it that was bad leadership.

If you didn't rate Thorn that much sack him after relegation.

Don't let him sign 9 players and line up DMC then sack him after 3 games, muppets

dongonzalos · Mar 25, 2013

LarryGrayson said:
you think itll all be sorted out by wedsnesday?

The point is once each sides legal argument is set they won't publish those answers.

LarryGrayson · Mar 25, 2013

dongonzalos said:
The point is once each sides legal argument is set they won't publish those answers.

the legal argument wont be over by wednesday

ashbyjan · Mar 25, 2013

SkyBlueScottie said:
"ACL would be willing to give CCFC full details of the F & B accounts and were prepared to go open book and even allow CCFC to use the revenue figures in the clubs FFP calculations?"

Does that mean we can "use" the figures but not get any of the cash?

Just to clarify
ACL would give CCFC their share of the f&b profits approx £100k (less this season due to lower attendances)
ACL would cross invoice to allow CCFC to use the revenue figures, approx £1m (less this season due to lower attendances) for the calculations of FFP

Hope that explains it.

fernandopartridge · Mar 25, 2013

dongonzalos said:
Just open minded enough to know you can't judge a manager over three games.

He may have been good or bad this season

Tim said no more sacking managers. Took responsibility for the relegation of last season as most on here agree.

Then sacked Thorn after three games we then lost 5 on the bounce.

Whichever way you look at it that was bad leadership.

If you didn't rate Thorn that much sack him after relegation.

Don't let him sign 9 players and line up DMC then sack him after 3 games, muppets

It wasn't 3 games you crank.

lordsummerisle · Mar 25, 2013

With then adminsitration, has the right to buy the Higgs share of ACL at an agreed price formula gone too?

This means that Higgs could potentially get more money from anybody new coming in without being hamstrung by previous agreements doesn't it?

dongonzalos · Mar 25, 2013

No but they will see the framework of ACL's legal argument.

So unless they have said something in their that contradicts their own legal case.
Which they shouldn't unless they have lied on either the answers or their legal framework.
Then they should be just waiting to see what ACL's case is before revealing their answers which should only serve to back up their case surely?

Or have they said something in there that undermines their case.

Or do they just come across very badly and they have realised that and it is nothing to do with Tuesday.

Whereas ACL have nothing to hide

LarryGrayson · Mar 25, 2013

i wudnt say owt while a legal case was goin on sounds like mentalist talk to do so to me

dongonzalos · Mar 25, 2013

lordsummerisle said:
With then adminsitration, has the right to buy the Higgs share of ACL at an agreed price formula gone too?

This means that Higgs could potentially get more money from anybody new coming in without being hamstrung by previous agreements doesn't it?

Higgs will be that desperate to do business with professionals I think they would honour a decent price.

SkyBlueScottie · Mar 25, 2013

ashbyjan said:
Just to clarify
ACL would give CCFC their share of the f&b profits approx £100k (less this season due to lower attendances)
ACL would cross invoice to allow CCFC to use the revenue figures, approx £1m (less this season due to lower attendances) for the calculations of FFP

Hope that explains it.

Excellent, thank you.

Sky Blue Pete · Mar 25, 2013

First time I have read that too. What says Grendel and flying focker?? And elephant ears etc??

chiefdave · Mar 25, 2013

ashbyjan said:
Just to clarify
ACL would give CCFC their share of the f&b profits approx £100k (less this season due to lower attendances)
ACL would cross invoice to allow CCFC to use the revenue figures, approx £1m (less this season due to lower attendances) for the calculations of FFP

Hope that explains it.

Does anyone know when the joint venture company was setup? Thought crossed my mind that this may have been set up to make it harder for SISU to get their hands on the F&B money, was the dispute already ongoing when the change was made?

oldskyblue58 · Mar 25, 2013

20/04/12 chiefdave ......... so just as SISU started to withold the rent ........ not sure how connected the two events were though. It makes sense to me to seperate things out

Nonleagueherewecome · Mar 25, 2013

fernandopartridge said:
It wasn't 3 games you crank.

Yeovil, Bury, Sheff U?

Spencer · Mar 25, 2013

LarryGrayson said:
i wudnt say owt while a legal case was goin on sounds like mentalist talk to do so to me

Agreed - either that or pure spin.

Sky Blue Pete · Mar 25, 2013

Spencer said:
Agreed - either that or pure spin.

Are you still defending the indefensible spencer??

chiefdave · Mar 25, 2013

oldskyblue58 said:
20/04/12 chiefdave ......... so just as SISU started to withold the rent ........ not sure how connected the two events were though. It makes sense to me to seperate things out

Thanks OSB, in your opinion does this make any negociation easier or harder? On the face of it to me it makes things harder as if CCFC (or SISU as current owners) want access to all that income there is now another party involved.

oldskyblue58 · Mar 25, 2013

plus and minuses chiefdave. On the one hand it means that ACL can sell off an interest in the daily operations quite seperately from selling ACL or an interest in it. It provides flexibility in negotiations imo for ACL

In terms of SISU and currently CCFC under their ownership I doubt it matters much the course of action they have conducted virtually ensures they wont get to those income sources however it is set up. The thing is SISU could have had all the options listed below but not for free

A new owner could
- just buy the club
- buy the club and part of IEC and get access to the turnover if they own 51%
- or could buy less and become a "partner" in IEC
- buy 50% of ACL who own 77% of IEC
- buy all of ACL
- buy less than 50% of ACL and become a partner

plenty of options which may well mean a that a large upfront payment is not required to get access to income streams

dongonzalos · Mar 25, 2013

fernandopartridge said:
It wasn't 3 games you crank.

Re read the post you crank

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