I wasn't the guy on here getting aggressive and complaining about how difficult it is to be discriminated against, we all know what happened after that. My Neice is happy in here life, we keep it as simple as possible and try to protect here from those who would discriminate................ But she's only disabled so it's easy to forgive and forget..............cunts.I might regret this...
But, you know those footballers, cricketers etc who get pulled up for racist, homophobic tweets etc they sent in the past? If they apologise and make clear they're against racism / homophobia / whatever then yes, it's probably worthwhile giving them the benefit of the doubt. If you said something to offend me, personally, and you apologised for it then yes, I would accept it... My general philosophy is we will all say things that offend somebody, it's how we respond to that, that matters. If it's a fuck you, it's my right to say that don't be such a snowflake then it's no holds barred in response. If, however, it's a recognition of offence and an attempt to change behaviours, then that's righting a wrong.
Now, apologies if this comes out wrong but...
Might it not be a good idea to start a thread in off-topic about the kind of regular discrimination your neice gets, and how it affects her, her family... you? It would be useful to draw attention to that, wouldn't it? Make us all think about what we say, and do? As it stands, all that happens is you're maybe not being able to get people to see what she has to put up with, and also it ends up derailing a point where we should all be agreeing that racism is bad, yes?
Doesn't your neice's discrimination deserve its own space, rather than as an adjunct to something else?
How do you stand on islamism?
You're obviously upset about your neice and that's laudible, she's lucky to have somebody to stand up for her.I wasn't the guy on here getting aggressive and complaining about how difficult it is to be discriminated against, we all know what happened after that. My Neice is happy in here life, we keep it as simple as possible and try to protect here from those who would discriminate................ But she's only disabled so it's easy to forgive and forget..............cunts.
Park Ji-Sung and Son Hueng-min are both Asian. Korea is in AsiaYan Dhanda, Hamza Choudary, Neil Taylor and Mal Benning are the only ones that come to mind in the football league, it’s pretty pitiful.
Assumed he meant British AsiansPark Ji-Sung and Son Hueng-min are both Asian. Korea is in Asia
SBA should raise the roof every time he touches the ball on Saturday.Can't we just leave the unnecessary falling out, the endless debates about the knee and black managers and make sure Dabo knows we're with him at the next game? The original point of this thread.
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Don't patroninse me. He called someone a spastic. It aint rocket science. I dont need anyones help on here, thanks though.You're obviously upset about your neice and that's laudible, she's lucky to have somebody to stand up for her.
It won't stand up for her as she deserves if it gets lost in a thread about racism, though.
It's obviously affected you badly, so I reckon it would be good to explain how it has, why it has - and give people the space to either sympathise, empathise, or ask questions on how they can behave more appropriately.
I thought a korea was something you looked for when you left school !Park Ji-Sung and Son Hueng-min are both Asian. Korea is in Asia
Can you please clarify why you are angry at me? What exactly have i done to piss you off? Please think about your answer rather than just throw insults.
Fantastic post.I might regret this...
But, you know those footballers, cricketers etc who get pulled up for racist, homophobic tweets etc they sent in the past? If they apologise and make clear they're against racism / homophobia / whatever then yes, it's probably worthwhile giving them the benefit of the doubt. If you said something to offend me, personally, and you apologised for it then yes, I would accept it... My general philosophy is we will all say things that offend somebody, it's how we respond to that, that matters. If it's a fuck you, it's my right to say that don't be such a snowflake then it's no holds barred in response. If, however, it's a recognition of offence and an attempt to change behaviours, then that's righting a wrong.
Now, apologies if this comes out wrong but...
Might it not be a good idea to start a thread in off-topic about the kind of regular discrimination your neice gets, and how it affects her, her family... you? It would be useful to draw attention to that, wouldn't it? Make us all think about what we say, and do? As it stands, all that happens is you're maybe not being able to get people to see what she has to put up with, and also it ends up derailing a point where we should all be agreeing that racism is bad, yes?
Doesn't your neice's discrimination deserve its own space, rather than as an adjunct to something else?
Just take a break from here mate.Don't patroninse me.
Let me ask you this, would you be so keen to forgive and forget if i'd called someone the 'n-word'?!
Don't patroninse me.
fucking fuming mate, it's unreal what's acceptable and what's not.Just take a break from here mate.
so, still no answer.You are either a total psycho or on the windup.
As you look like a scary version of Orville I'll assume & hope its the latter.
Don't patroninse me. He called someone a spastic. It aint rocket science. I dont need anyones help on here, thanks though.
Let me ask you this, would you be so keen to forgive and forget if i'd called someone the 'n-word'?!
Park Ji-Sung and Son Hueng-min are both Asian. Korea is in Asia
Yeah, as SlowerThanPlatt says I was referring to British Asians, and to be more specific south-east Asians. The 2011 census has the South East Asian population in Britain at 6.1%, compared to the Black British population at 3%. Latest figures I can find suggest that 25% of players currently playing in the top four divisions are black, or of black heritage, which is obviously huge compared to the number of British Asians named in this thread.Assumed he meant British Asians
will have to re-read later, need to get out of this shit holeNorthern wisdom has made a good point to be fair... PUSB
Oh, OK I read the comment as the lack of Asians in professional football being odd.Assumed he meant British Asians
Agreed, but take 5 minutes out, no ones having a pop at you, someone was out of order, but has apologised, have the grace to accept it at face value.fucking fuming mate, it's unreal what's acceptable and what's not.
Has culture got something to do with it, I know a few indian lads who are really into Hockey and others into their cricket, it appears that football isn't that popular with them historically.Yeah, as SlowerThanPlatt says I was referring to British Asians, and to be more specific south-east Asians. The 2011 census has the South East Asian population in Britain at 6.1%, compared to the Black British population at 3%. Latest figures I can find suggest that 25% of players currently playing in the top four divisions are black, or of black heritage, which is obviously huge compared to the number of British Asians named in this thread.
When sports people / celebs etc get pulled up for racist tweets etc they apologise simply because it's been made public. They've been caught. Would they have come clean and apologised simply because it had been nagging away at them for years and they wanted to make everyone aware of something they had said in the past, even though it may have been buried and almost forgotten ? The answer is no.I might regret this...
But, you know those footballers, cricketers etc who get pulled up for racist, homophobic tweets etc they sent in the past? If they apologise and make clear they're against racism / homophobia / whatever then yes, it's probably worthwhile giving them the benefit of the doubt. If you said something to offend me, personally, and you apologised for it then yes, I would accept it... My general philosophy is we will all say things that offend somebody, it's how we respond to that, that matters. If it's a fuck you, it's my right to say that don't be such a snowflake then it's no holds barred in response. If, however, it's a recognition of offence and an attempt to change behaviours, then that's righting a wrong.
Now, apologies if this comes out wrong but...
Might it not be a good idea to start a thread in off-topic about the kind of regular discrimination your neice gets, and how it affects her, her family... you? It would be useful to draw attention to that, wouldn't it? Make us all think about what we say, and do? As it stands, all that happens is you're maybe not being able to get people to see what she has to put up with, and also it ends up derailing a point where we should all be agreeing that racism is bad, yes?
Doesn't your neice's discrimination deserve its own space, rather than as an adjunct to something else?
Junior??
Just found out from my daughter last year a lad in her class spent a day abusing a Jewish student: Holocaust “jokes” nazi salutes, the lot.
Got “a talking to” and “lost ten minutes golden time”. No suspension, no reinforcement to the others students how abhorrent it is.
They’re fucking lucky she’s left the school and I didn’t know about it. I’d have raised hell if I had. Absolutely pathetic response. Apparently similar has happened with use of the N word. In Earlsdon Primary FFS.
We’ve got a long long way to go.
I've always found the lack of Asian professionals a little odd. Maybe just maybe, none have been good enough. Why would Asians be discriminated against more than black kids, for example?
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Most of the Asian kids I went to school with were football mad (I'm talking late 2000s/early 2010s here), in fact our lunch time match used to be Asians vs. everyone else as a quick way of sort the teams (not as dodgy as it sounds). Like others have said I think it must be a cultural thing with family pressures to get into more secure careers, but we also had plenty of really talented Asian lads playing and I think of a single one who was ever scouted, while the list the white lads who did is countless.Has culture got something to do with it, I know a few indian lads who are really into Hockey and others into their cricket, it appears that football isn't that popular with them historically.
Fair point, but equally bad are the trolls digging up stuff said years ago and reposting it to score cheap points and 'out' them. We keep saying we want racists to be educated and not simply driven underground, if we suppress that and continue to create divide then it's not helpful. If it's really abhorrent they should be called out for it and then allowed to move forward. If it was misplaced banter then no repeats and should be consigned to history. I doubt many of us are the same as we were 5, 10, 20 years ago - whatever it takes to make us learn and I'm sure we've all done or said things that we aren't proud of.When sports people / celebs etc get pulled up for racist tweets etc they apologise simply because it's been made public. They've been caught. Would they have come clean and apologised simply because it had been nagging away at them for years and they wanted to make everyone aware of something they had said in the past, even though it may have been buried and almost forgotten ? The answer is no.
It's an interesting conversation and I don't want to get on dodgy ground but not even a single player of note has come out of the whole of India. Bright looked like Cristiano Ronaldo over there.Id imagine for players black lads are more likely to suffer from positive racism as well “big strong powerful” etc.
It’s not all racism, lots of cultural reasons why Asian kids don’t go into sport as well. But those that do feel they have serious barriers to overcome.
They just don't have the infrastructure over there, combined with the fact that cricket is the national sport. Football is hugely popular as a spectacle I believe, but there is next to no actual footballing infrastructure to take advantage of it.It's an interesting conversation and I don't want to get on dodgy ground but not even a single player of note has come out of the whole of India. Bright looked like Cristiano Ronaldo over there.
I can't imagine that they are suffering Asian discrimination in India...
Also to add I'd really like us to nab a decent Indian player if one makes himself known. That's a big market to get interested in the club.
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Why because he has a disabled family member and finds the word spastic disgusting as do I.Just take a break from here mate.
Why because he has a disabled family member and finds the word spastic disgusting as do I.
as has been said previously all forms of discrimination are out of order but some on here are either very two faced or just like the attention of playing for the current political side but dont practice what they preach.
No i told him to take a break because he was getting stressedWhy because he has a disabled family member and finds the word spastic disgusting as do I.
as has been said previously all forms of discrimination are out of order but some on here are either very two faced or just like the attention of playing for the current political side but dont practice what they preach.
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