When we did well in November and December we also had David McGoldrick. The truth is at home no formation has been particularly effective hence whit we have won just 5, drawn 5 and lost 7 in 17 league games at home this season.Cameron wasn't too bad, it's Edj who's the problem.
That didn't seem to matter when we played 4-5-1 did it!? Moussa is actually good, Elliott isn't. It's the ideology you buy into with formation.
When we did well in November and December, why didn't we play 4-4-2 and start Elliott instead of Moussa? :thinking about:
Your argument is untenable.
If moussa had played we would have still lost.Cameron wasn't too bad, it's Edj who's the problem.
That didn't seem to matter when we played 4-5-1 did it!? Moussa is actually good, Elliott isn't. It's the ideology you buy into with formation.
When we did well in November and December, why didn't we play 4-4-2 and start Elliott instead of Moussa? :thinking about:
Your argument is untenable.
Cameron wasn't too bad, it's Edj who's the problem.
That didn't seem to matter when we played 4-5-1 did it!? Moussa is actually good, Elliott isn't. It's the ideology you buy into with formation.
When we did well in November and December, why didn't we play 4-4-2 and start Elliott instead of Moussa? :thinking about:
Your argument is untenable.
Cameron wasn't too bad, le.
Edge is a centre half in a totally different footballing environment and Cameron won't have match sharpness yet. Disaster waiting to happen.
To be fair, Cameron had that 1good spell under Boothroyd playing with turner, but has since always looked like a liability - his biggest crime is continually allowing the ball to bounce.
Did you actually go! He was shocking.
He's also still a youngster with not much experience.
Murphy - 7 exposed by dire defenders
Christie - 7 looked better going forward than baker
Edje - 4 one season only please
Cameron - 4 career going backwards
Jenkinson - 5 a poor mans julien dicks
Jennings - 6 dire first half but did pull it round in the second
Bailey - 4 worst performance I've seen from him
Clarke - 5 on his own against the back 4 and looked frustrated
Baker - 4 awful
Elliot - 4 other than back into players and run around a lot what does he do
Mcdheffrey - 5 did well for 15 minutes then just disappeared.
Moussa - 6 not in game much
Wilson - 6 same as above
Fleck - 4 why bother?
Did you actually go! He was shocking.
Not quite sure why everyone loves Moussa so much, he's been poor since our pitch turned into chocolate milkshake. Elliott was poor in terms of touch today, but he was tireless, he hit the woodwork, and has been one of our best players whenever he's featured in the last ten games.
Carsley persisting with the final formation the former manager played is exactly what Shaw did wrong earlier this season.
Do these idiots not realise that they are allowed to change it? We've never looked impressive in 4-4-2 so feck knows why they're playing it. Elliott doesn't play as another striker on the shoulder, basically just does the same job as Moussa but without the athleticism.
Murphy - 7 exposed by dire defenders
Christie - 7 looked better going forward than baker
Edje - 4 one season only please
Cameron - 4 career going backwards
Jenkinson - 5 a poor mans julien dicks
Jennings - 6 dire first half but did pull it round in the second
Bailey - 4 worst performance I've seen from him
Clarke - 5 on his own against the back 4 and looked frustrated
Baker - 4 awful
Elliot - 4 other than back into players and run around a lot what does he do
Mcdheffrey - 5 did well for 15 minutes then just disappeared.
Moussa - 6 not in game much
Wilson - 6 same as above
Fleck - 4 why bother?
I disagree on Elliott, today he gave away the ball pretty much every time he got the damn thing! Doesn't score, all he does is run, but that's enough for some fans, offers little. I do, however, agree with your point on Moussa, I do think Fleck should be given a go behind the striker and Thomas should start, and hopefully Moussa on the wing (not going to happen all 3) but I do think it MAY work, we'd definitely look better technically, we've played poorly in all 3 games under LC, and we need an overhaul of the XI - they're not playing well enough to start! - if we have a hope of Playoffs.
Worst players today IMO:
1. Baker
2. Baker
3. Baker
I disagree on Elliott, today he gave away the ball pretty much every time he got the damn thing! Doesn't score, all he does is run, but that's enough for some fans, offers little. I do, however, agree with your point on Moussa, I do think Fleck should be given a go behind the striker and Thomas should start, and hopefully Moussa on the wing (not going to happen all 3) but I do think it MAY work, we'd definitely look better technically, we've played poorly in all 3 games under LC, and we need an overhaul of the XI - they're not playing well enough to start! - if we have a hope of Playoffs.
Worst players today IMO:
1. Baker
2. Baker
3. Baker
Who is Jenkinson?
This alone shows me why your opinion isn't woth listening to.
The amount of idiots I hear scream "baker you're shit" and its Jennings or "mcsheffrey you're a useless twat" and its baker, sums the Ricoh up for me. 20% regular folk who follow their team and know their stuff, the rest a bunch of idiots who go to let off steam and rock up on a Saturday after reading the bbc match report from the previous week and don't have a f**kin clue
And you are clearly in the 80% category. Baker had a very poor game and I am one of the few people on here who consider mcsheffrey worthy of a starting place.
Murphy 7 - great save and played well, distribution was good, definitely an unsung hero.
Christie 7 - defended well, got forward well, needs to work on crosses.
Cameron 6 - solid, should've scored.
Edj 5 - drifted too far and nearly cost us, he was pretty poor.
Dickinson 4 - can't play football gave it away far too often, 'no nonsense' is a way to say 'can't play football'.
Baker 6 (just) - had his moments, but wasn't great.
Jennings 5 - didn't deserve to start today and hardly vindicated LC's decision to pick him.
Bailey 5 - same as Jennings, played poorly.
McSheff 5 - poor but for 15m at the start.
Elliott 4 - as usual, worked hard, but gave the ball away pretty much every time he got the ball, hit the post but he was poor, HOW is he keeping out a midfielder!?
Clarke 7 - quality goal, but midfield didn't give him the service
Subs
Fleck 5 - not a winger, did 1 good cross, a poor cross and a desperate shot that was plain embarrassing!
Moussa 6 - overall played alright.
Wilson 5 - should've scored but bringing him on was a waste of a sub.
Formation 3 - got dominated in midfield and it is CLEAR that 4-4-2 doesn't work for CCFC, and certainly puts to bed the myth that we 'need' to play 2 upfront, home OR away.
Carsley 3 - selection was naive and was very reactionary.
Well said, we don't have the players to play 4-4-2, and it's about time some clocked on to this, before the discussion actually starts about this, what 2 strikers can start? To suggest Elliott; Wilson or Philliskirk are good enough is (nearly) laughable.
He's also still a youngster with not much experience.
Like big Cyrille Regis said on the radio, plenty of youngsters playing - No excuse - You have to perform - If not head down to McDonalds and get an application form.
How do you know if philliskirk and Wilson are good enough? You haven't seen them play. Philliskirk was at Chelsea so he must have something about him. Wilson has only had 10-30 mins each game why is not enough time.
How do you know if philliskirk and Wilson are good enough? You haven't seen them play. Philliskirk was at Chelsea so he must have something about him. Wilson has only had 10-30 mins each game why is not enough time.
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