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  • Oct 31, 2021
  • #106
Sick Boy said:
Lack of experience, feeling under pressure, noticing the groans/abuse of fans etc.
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Agree with the first but do you really feel the others are a factor? As a footballer largely you have to be able to cope with that.

I like Sheaf and feel he could become a really good player, but he does need to learn from his mistakes. I have noticed more though this season his lack of pace. It seems an important time for him now. Could easily end up playing in the Premier league if he learns to release the ball quicker in certain situations.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Oct 31, 2021
  • #107
Evo1883 said:
Anyway this is goddens first touch yesterday , he actually lifts the ball off the floor instead of pushing it forward several yards .. it slowed him down View attachment 22485
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Ball was played with pace and was slightly behind him and he still got a shot away that the keeper made a smart save from
 
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Evo1883

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  • Oct 31, 2021
  • #108
Sky Blue Pete said:
Ball was played with pace and was slightly behind him
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I think the ball was fine , he just fucked up the initial touch
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Oct 31, 2021
  • #109
Evo1883 said:
I think the ball was fine , he just fucked up the initial touch
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Wow ok I’ll have to watch again
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 31, 2021
  • #110
Sky Blue Pete said:
Wow ok I’ll have to watch again
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Slow it down to 0.25 x speed to really see how much his first touch fucks him up
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Oct 31, 2021
  • #111
Warthog said:
Sorry but referring to a section of our support, who are willing to support the players despite their mistakes, as a cult is pathetic and shameful
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It depends on the level though. Supporting a player on the pitch even if they're playing poorly is great - it's constructive - but if someone on here points out a deficiency a player needs to improve and they get told to shut up and just support the players is cult like. Of course there are some who point out certain players mistakes more than others etc and can be overly critical but if someone refuses to acknowledge any problem then that is not constructive.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Oct 31, 2021
  • #112
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
It depends on the level though. Supporting a player on the pitch even if they're playing poorly is great - it's constructive - but if someone on here points out a deficiency a player needs to improve and they get told to shut up and just support the players is cult like. Of course there are some who point out certain players mistakes more than others etc and can be overly critical but if someone refuses to acknowledge any problem then that is not constructive.
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Fair from one who is cult like in my love for our playing staff
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 31, 2021
  • #113
There is a point to it though, several posters still unable to bring themselves to say sheafs passing almost got us in the shit 3 or 4 times but point out hamer for a couple shit corners

Ironically hamer was rated higher than sheaf everywhere apart from on here , where several posters marked them the same

Both were underwhelming either way
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 31, 2021
  • #114
And in regards to dabo .

According to the well respected whosscored(used alot on here) .. he's having a slightly better season than maatson
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Oct 31, 2021
  • #115
Evo1883 said:
And in regards to dabo .

According to the well respected whosscored(used alot on here) .. he's having a slightly better season than maatson
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Are you going the overall rating?
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 31, 2021
  • #116
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Are you going the overall rating?
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Yea , which also has Todd kane slightly higher than dabo , to be fair with only 3 games played
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Oct 31, 2021
  • #117
Evo1883 said:
Yea , which also has Todd kane slightly higher than dabo , to be fair with only 3 games played
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Yeah assists get big marks
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Oct 31, 2021
  • #118
Maatsen is 8th and Dabo 11th from what I can see
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 31, 2021
  • #119
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Maatsen is 8th and Dabo 11th from what I can see
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I have dabo at 6.68 and maatson on 6.67 although 1 of maatsons includes a league cup game .

Championship has maatson 0.05 ahead in ratings with around 200 minutes more played
 

Warthog

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  • Oct 31, 2021
  • #120
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
It depends on the level though. Supporting a player on the pitch even if they're playing poorly is great - it's constructive - but if someone on here points out a deficiency a player needs to improve and they get told to shut up and just support the players is cult like. Of course there are some who point out certain players mistakes more than others etc and can be overly critical but if someone refuses to acknowledge any problem then that is not constructive.
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It’s more the use of the word ‘cult’. Not sure where that’s come from but it’s ridiculous to label a section of fans as a cult whatever they believe
 
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skybluegod

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  • Oct 31, 2021
  • #121
Sky Blue Pete said:
Ball was played with pace and was slightly behind him and he still got a shot away that the keeper made a smart save from
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Even with the touch I have a feeling Godden will be massively disappointed not to have put it away. He made it very obvious he was going to place it into that corner.

He didn't massively need to worry about the defender behind him, as whilst close he was still in a very awkward position and was more likely to bring him down than make a tackle for me.
 
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covcity4life

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  • Oct 31, 2021
  • #122
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Not the same posters is it? If I remember correctly, Stu and CC4L rated Biamou
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I an confirm this is the case.
 

covcity4life

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  • Oct 31, 2021
  • #123
Evo1883 said:
Anyway this is goddens first touch yesterday , he actually lifts the ball off the floor instead of pushing it forward several yards .. it slowed him down View attachment 22485
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Same with Allen in second half. He got ball in box but he knew he wasn't fast or strong enough to do anything other than desperately get a shot off quickly.
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 31, 2021
  • #124
covcity4life said:
Same with Allen in second half. He got ball in box but he knew he wasn't fast or strong enough to do anything other than desperately get a shot off quickly.
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Looked at vik straight away and he seemed to think Allen should have reversed the pass back to him, didn't look possible at the time
 

larry_david

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  • Oct 31, 2021
  • #125
That dabo cross yesterday where everyone was near post and he smashed it over the box for a throw in though
 

covcity4life

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  • Oct 31, 2021
  • #126
Evo1883 said:
Looked at vik straight away and he seemed to think Allen should have reversed the pass back to him, didn't look possible at the time
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I didn't see that pass as on either and I am a visionary
 
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COV

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  • Oct 31, 2021
  • #127
Sick Boy said:
Sheaf is a young, developing player whereas Biamou was a senior squad member.
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Don’t think you can say that about him any more- what is he, 23? He’s also pretty much first choice starter too, was that ever the case with Biamou in The Championship?
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 31, 2021
  • #128
Evo1883 said:
I think the ball was fine , he just fucked up the initial touch
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Tbf I think if O'Hare had placed it a couple of metre's further forward we'd be wondering if a confused lino would have raised his flag, I think the whole move was bang on from swift accurate passing .
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Oct 31, 2021
  • #129
Warthog said:
It’s more the use of the word ‘cult’. Not sure where that’s come from but it’s ridiculous to label a section of fans as a cult whatever they believe
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Exactly, you'd have to be truly terrible to come up with something like that.
 
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LilleSkyBlue

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  • Oct 31, 2021
  • #130
wingy said:
Tbf I think if O'Hare had placed it a couple of metre's further forward we'd be wondering if a confused lino would have raised his flag, I think the whole move was bang on from swift accurate passing .
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You might be right about an offside being potentially given.

I still think O'Hare's pass was a fraction behind Godden. But Godden's first touch didn't shovel the ball far enough in front of him either.
 
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stupot07

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  • Oct 31, 2021
  • #131
Evo1883 said:
Anyway this is goddens first touch yesterday , he actually lifts the ball off the floor instead of pushing it forward several yards .. it slowed him down View attachment 22485
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Evo1883 said:
I think the ball was fine , he just fucked up the initial touch
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I disagree the pass was behind him making slow down, having to swerve his body awkwardly to control with his front foot and having the extra touch, which is why his touch is off. A better ball and and its one back foot touch control then finish or he hits it first time.

Goddens had to almost stop and be side on to control it

And there is no way in this world the lino gives off side if o'hare plays it more in front of him. Goddens about 2 yards on.


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wingy

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  • Oct 31, 2021
  • #132
stupot07 said:
I disagree the pass was behind him making slow down, having to swerve his body awkwardly to control ot and having the extra touch, which is why his touch is off. A better ball and and its one back foot touch control then finish or he hits it first time.

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I think you're expecting premiership quality here Stu . sorry.
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 31, 2021
  • #133
stupot07 said:
I disagree the pass was behind him making slow down, having to swerve his body awkwardly to control with his front foot and having the extra touch, which is why his touch is off. A better ball and and its one back foot touch control then finish or he hits it first time.



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I also disagree , it's not behind him , it was the way he pushed it forward that done him , it came up off the floor .

problem with the pass is it was almost as perfect as o hare could manage any further forward it probably hits the heels of the defender
 

stupot07

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  • Oct 31, 2021
  • #134
wingy said:
I think you're expecting premiership quality here Stu . sorry.
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I'm really not wingy, I'm expecting championship quality. 100% at 17 years old Maddison plays that pass inch perfect.

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stupot07

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  • Oct 31, 2021
  • #135
Evo1883 said:
I also disagree , it's not behind him , it was the way he pushed it forward that done him , it came up off the floor View attachment 22487
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But he's having to slow down, swivel his body and take it with the wrong foot because its behind his run not infront of it.

This gets drilled into my 10 year old who plays week in week out.

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Evo1883

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  • Oct 31, 2021
  • #136
The pass probably had a yard wiggle room ?
 
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Evo1883

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  • Oct 31, 2021
  • #137
stupot07 said:
But he's having to slow down, swivel his body and take it with the wrong foot because its behind his run not infront of it.

This gets drilled into my 10 year old who plays week in week out.

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Like I said , the main thing that knackered him was the first touch.

The defender was also already in full sprint , at no point was godden in a full sprint
 

stupot07

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  • Oct 31, 2021
  • #138
Evo1883 said:
Like I said , the main thing that knackered him was the first touch.

The defender was also already in full sprint
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But the ball caused his touch, because he's had to take it on the wrong foot.


O'Hare shouldn't be immune to criticism.

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Evo1883

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  • Oct 31, 2021
  • #139
stupot07 said:
But the ball caused his touch, because he's had to take it on the wrong foot.


O'Hare shouldn't be immune to criticism.

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I'd criticise o hare if I agreed with your point .... I don't.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Oct 31, 2021
  • #140
stupot07 said:
Doesn't help when your number 10 has just 1 in his last 52 appearances. As good as O'Hare is, his goal return is nowhere near good enough.

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He’s a good player at Championship level but not one Villa will regret losing. We’ve given him 100 appearances they wouldn’t be able to and his final ball/finishing hasn’t improved in that time
 
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