Torquay Sky Blue
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When Allen is bad he's non existent
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pusbccfc
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Can't think of many players we've had with a first touch as poor as his.
He's not hit 1 assist in 51 games as an attacking wing back.
Torquay Sky Blue
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I like Dabo but he's looking like a bottom end championship player. He's not top 6
SlowerThanPlatt
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Think one of him or Kane will be moved on in the summer and will be playing second fiddle to a new right back
The Philosopher
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They have their uses but (as above) I think they often mislead. Dabo might have had the best passing completion stats but his choice of pass often leaves a lot to be desired.
When he gets into a space to pass / into the box he seemed tonight to end up finding someone with their back to goal on the edge of the box. That there is a pass completed - stats say so.
If he were to drive it hard and low into the danger area I’d say that it was more likely to create something, but also more likely to be shown as an incomplete pass on his stats.
Not all stats are any use.
pusbccfc
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Unlikely. Can't see anyone paying money for either.
Similar to Walker and Waghorn. We are stuck with them.
shmmeee
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That’s fine except when a definitive statement like “X always gives the ball away” is made and it’s clearly not true. Of course the old “not everything that counts can be counted” stuff applies, but clear nonsense like that can still be disproven.
shmmeee
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Seirously doubt we’ve got the money to do that. Well down the list of priorities.
The Philosopher
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We were all over the show tonight.
Players not reading each other’s runs
Players not communicating (eg, number of times if we had a cross / corner / free kick and we end up with 4 standing around the 6 yard box looking viral and no one around the edge of the penalty area to recycle the attack)
Missed a leader tonight.
Players not reading each other’s runs
Players not communicating (eg, number of times if we had a cross / corner / free kick and we end up with 4 standing around the 6 yard box looking viral and no one around the edge of the penalty area to recycle the attack)
Missed a leader tonight.
lifeskyblue
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Moore at fault for first, Hamer for second (wandering aimlessly on edge of 18yd line). Poor performances all round…could make a pass, hurried throughout. Out thought and out muscled by a very average side.
I’m fed up with paying for 90mins but only getting about 75.
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Evo1883
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Dabo tonight had 4 key passes , the most in the team , that means that his passes lead to 4 shots .
There's alot of nonsense on here about dabo , absolute nonsense
shmmeee
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I thought in terms of end product he had one of his better games tonight.
sylus
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i sodded off after 80mins, i'd had enough. but that was shocking, how can you play like we did on Saturday, to play like we did last night, we made hull look good,they deserved the win, i just hope we can get something at Derby, but our season is over now.
5 all round and i am being generous.
5 all round and i am being generous.
Legia Sky Blue
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I blame Hyam more for the 2nd, passing straight to their player when under no pressure, which led to a Moore save and the following corner they scored from.
larry_david
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I love hyam but it's scary how often he does that shit type of pass.
My biggest disappointment last night was our passing. i thought it was shockingly bad and the root cause of everything. A shocker of a ball by Hyam straight to a Hull player led to Moore having to make a save, conceding the corner from which they scored. Hamer surged forward well a couple of times only to fluff the pass and ruin the excellent looking opportunity he’d created. That’s just two examples but every player seemed guilty of it. I find it one of the most frustrating things to watch because some of the passes are surely bread and butter for professional footballers. That said, I’m just a watcher myself and never played so maybe easy for me to say! It will be interesting to see if any of the players test positive for Covid over the next day or so because some of how they played compared to Saturday seems inexplicable. We all have a bad day in the office. this ones just feels extra disappointing after Saturday. PUSB
SlowerThanPlatt
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Would that be worth the potential hassle for a meaningless game?
larry_david
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I'm convinced Simon Moore wasn't right. His positioning was all over the shop, he panicked on the ball a few times and slipped over, thr first go went straight under him and there was one shot second half nearly went out for a throw in and he dived full length of the pitch to which we all looked at each other and rolled our eyes.
He wasn't the only one either. How we could get so many passes so wrong I have no idea.
He wasn't the only one either. How we could get so many passes so wrong I have no idea.
stevefloyd
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And as I said on the match thread the very next time he had the ball after the goal he done it again. I quite like Hyam but we really need someone at right CB who doesn't slow us down when we are going forward, who can actually pass a simple ball under no pressure and is quicker than him because as decent that he has been he cost us at the start of the season and now starting to chip in at the end too be ok as a back up !
pusbccfc
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Exactly,to be fair.
Although we could be playing with a handful of cases. Anyone who's had Covid, even without symptoms, knows it will at least cause tiredness or shortness of breath when exercising.
pusbccfc
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Did that one great save though. Agreed that be was generally poor.
ceetee
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There were lots of individual mistakes but whether that was through lack of concentration caused by Covid, tiredness or frustration at being closed down I have no idea. Basically though,Hull out thought us tactically and closed us down in midfield and defence. I could accept them playing for 0-0 and achieving it, but they didn't park the bus, they came forward and scored and showed us up for what we are.
CovBrummie94
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All poor last night.
Moore drops a clanger for the opener. Sheaf in the middle of the back 3 didn't work, the back line was all over the place. Sloppy passing all over the pitch. Nothing from either wing back. Allen and Godden anonymous. Vic with his worst performance in a long time. We looked like a team that had never played together.
We looked better after the subs but it couldn't have been worse. Plus Hull were happy to let us have the ball as they closed out the game.
5s all around.
I'm not sure how much of a difference it makes on the pitch but the lack of management team on the sideline was really noticeable last night. Nobody in the Cov dugout out barking orders or talking to the players throughout the game. Hopefully Robins and Viveash are back for Derby.
Moore drops a clanger for the opener. Sheaf in the middle of the back 3 didn't work, the back line was all over the place. Sloppy passing all over the pitch. Nothing from either wing back. Allen and Godden anonymous. Vic with his worst performance in a long time. We looked like a team that had never played together.
We looked better after the subs but it couldn't have been worse. Plus Hull were happy to let us have the ball as they closed out the game.
5s all around.
I'm not sure how much of a difference it makes on the pitch but the lack of management team on the sideline was really noticeable last night. Nobody in the Cov dugout out barking orders or talking to the players throughout the game. Hopefully Robins and Viveash are back for Derby.
shmmeee
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His first touch from our kick off was straight into touch as well.
Covid is the only thing I can think, otherwise how can do many of the squad just go to shit at the same time. Some of the balls from Hamer and O’Hare and Dabo (who is generally one of our better passers) were just shocking, Gyokeres looked a different player too.
fernandopartridge
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I know Hyam is adored here but Rose is a better option in that position, his use of the ball is far better and less telegraphed than Hyam.. Not sure why Hyam wasn't used in the middle of the 3 last night, very strange to leave a non of natural centre back up against a big striker.
fernandopartridge
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He was the only player who looked like doing anything and Indeed was with that run and shot first half
Terry_dactyl
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A very strange decision. Sheaf was good with the ball at his feet but was no match for Eaves’ strength…as others have said, he was bullied.
I don’t know which is more unlikely - the idea that everyone else but Robins has spotted that Championship defenders have no idea how to cope with long balls over the top to a quick striker, or the idea that we’re going to change our entire tactical system to accommodate Fabio Tavares.
Of course, but I think teams are going to see through our Plan B pretty quick if it consists of “Play it over the top for the quick guy to run after”. We’re not going to score goals like Gyokeres did against Sheff Utd every week in this division. League One and League Two, maybe.
pusbccfc
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Agreed, but by his standards his passing was poor at times, like the rest of the team.