that quote is a bit ambiguous to be honest, I think the Israelis are denying the kneeling on the neck technique was taught at these seminars not that police from the US go there for training.
For what it's worth I don't believe the Israelis denial about the neck technique.
Ok, assuming that it is the case. US police aren’t learning this from Israeli secret services - they’re being trained by their own police departments.
That still doesn’t account for similar instances of police brutality in US that predates these kind of seminars/conferences delivered to US police.
Derrick Chauvin is to blame what happened. Whether or not he received training from Israeli secret services. No trained personnel would recommend using this technique in the neck of someone for 8+ minutes.
To bring Israel in this discussion is a red herring, from just about every angle of looking at it.
Of course, that's why it's weird how people get upset about US police going to Israel to be taught some of their moves which can cause damage.
Both the US and Israel have the choice, it ends up with some police who are properly trained and wannabe dickheads who see it on youtube.
It is a direct quote and the original article I shared with you had the excerpt where Maxine Peake made the claim that the move was learnt from Israeli special services.
Here is the unedited, original quote, from the original Independent article which RLB shared. I’ve attached a screenshot.
Link: Maxine Peake: ‘People who couldn’t vote Labour because of Jeremy Corbyn? They voted Tory as far as I’m concerned’
Minneapolis Police Department allows neck restraints, but only officers who have received specific training in how to correctly carry them out are permitted to do so. Additionally, a police trainer for the state of Minnesota has confirmed the state does not teach the "knee on neck" technique.Ok, assuming that it is the case. US police aren’t learning this from Israeli secret services - they’re being trained by their own police departments.
Minneapolis Police Department allows neck restraints, but only officers who have received specific training in how to correctly carry them out are permitted to do so. Additionally, a police trainer for the state of Minnesota has confirmed the state does not teach the "knee on neck" technique.
Jesus Christ well what a surprise
I seen this shared on FB, rolled my eyes and scrolled passed it before the news broke RLB had been sacked.
What’s really pushed me away from Corbyn, RLB and the left of the party is their seeming lack of awareness of politics and power (as a concept) outside of their echo chamber.
Yep. I think the fact RLB described Peake as a 'diamond' is good enough reason for Starmer to clear her out tbh.To be honest I’ve never heard of her but now I’ve looked at her background she’s clearly a racist, bat shit crazy and the fact that a senior member of the Labour Party is retweeting her obscene drivel shows he actually was 100% right to sack her
Yep. I think the fact RLB described Peake as a 'diamond' is good enough reason for Starmer to clear her out tbh.
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Jonathan Pie is a gem.
For me, the re-reading Orwell’s ‘1984’ and other text has never felt more relevant, or important at this moment in time.
They're not bringing 'jews' into anything. Israel is not representative of all 'jews'.
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Take it up with the Jewish groups, they argue randomly bringing in Israel is because it’s a Jewish country. Plays into the Israel control the world conspiracy.
Found this really interesting.
Both in terms of how close Labour members and councillors are to each other and MPs to voters. But also how far right Tory MPs are in comparison to the rest of the party and especially the voters. You can’t hold a coalition like that together either the MPs or the voters will get sick of it.
look at the graph for MPs on social values, Labour MPs are v much more socially-liberal than the typical Labour voter.
look at the graph for MPs on social values, Labour MPs are v much more socially-liberal than the typical Labour voter.
Oooohhh. I missed that. Not surprising. Labour in 2019 were by far the most socially liberal party in the U.K., even more so than the Lib Dem’s.
Fascinating that the major parties each have their own issues with bridging the gap, one socially and one economically.
I maintain that a soft left socially conservative party would clean up here. I think that’s what Cummings was hoping to turn the Tories into but their members wouldn’t stand for the economics just as Labours wouldn’t stand for the social conservatism if they tried it.
New party anyone?
Oooohhh. I missed that. Not surprising. Labour in 2019 were by far the most socially liberal party in the U.K., even more so than the Lib Dem’s.
Fascinating that the major parties each have their own issues with bridging the gap, one socially and one economically.
I maintain that a soft left socially conservative party would clean up here. I think that’s what Cummings was hoping to turn the Tories into but their members wouldn’t stand for the economics just as Labours wouldn’t stand for the social conservatism if they tried it.
New party anyone?
Oooohhh. I missed that. Not surprising. Labour in 2019 were by far the most socially liberal party in the U.K., even more so than the Lib Dem’s.
Fascinating that the major parties each have their own issues with bridging the gap, one socially and one economically.
I maintain that a soft left socially conservative party would clean up here. I think that’s what Cummings was hoping to turn the Tories into but their members wouldn’t stand for the economics just as Labours wouldn’t stand for the social conservatism if they tried it.
New party anyone?
I guess it depends what that socially conservative platform would look like. If it means specific immigration controls then fine, but I’m not sure what else is included in that.
Would you advocate a change in the voting system to something else if it was possible to change?A new party is required but essentially a pipe dream
A new party is required but essentially a pipe dream
Shmmeee has woken up this morning and morphed into Peter Hitchens - we’ll sort of
PETER HITCHENS: We need a genuinely new political party, not a rabble of rebranded Blairites | Daily Mail Online
Would you advocate a change in the voting system to something else if it was possible to change?
Would you advocate a change in the voting system to something else if it was possible to change?
Would you advocate a change in the voting system to something else if it was possible to change?
No. It would worsen things
I know nothing about German politics but I get the impression it works as there are natural alliances who are really the same conservative type parties
This does not exist here and the composition would be very different. It would I assume eliminate sturgeons lot at Westminster which would be good but the parties aren’t allies and forming alliances and coalitions will always fail
Unfortunately the system we have is failing partly as the rise of the SNP has made it virtually impossible to get a majority Labour Party in government - that is of course an issue but we would end up more like Italy than Germany I’d suspect if we went that way
No. It would worsen things
I know nothing about German politics but I get the impression it works as there are natural alliances who are really the same conservative type parties
This does not exist here and the composition would be very different. It would I assume eliminate sturgeons lot at Westminster which would be good but the parties aren’t allies and forming alliances and coalitions will always fail
Unfortunately the system we have is failing partly as the rise of the SNP has made it virtually impossible to get a majority Labour Party in government - that is of course an issue but we would end up more like Italy than Germany I’d suspect if we went that way
Labour would’ve won without Scotland in 97, 2001 and 2005.
It’s not the SNP making Labour unelectable.
Labour would’ve won without Scotland in 97, 2001 and 2005.
It’s not the SNP making Labour unelectable.
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