stupot07
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It wasn't a foul, but he got booked for the way he kicked the ball away, dissent
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It wasn't a foul, but he got booked for the way he kicked the ball away, dissentDidn’t think Palmer’s booking was a foul never mind a card either
To be fair. 2 yellows were for dissent, and 1 yellow for "inciting" the crowd. Only 1 yellow for an actual foul.If that ball gets cleared instead of hitting KDH then no pen. Looks like KDH gets the ball with the ricochet and made it look worse.
That’s a ref who doesn’t know football-it’s a clearance of course there’s a follow through but how else of Thomas expected to get any power without a follow through.
Also KDH just runs through him and isn’t that dangerous?
Red is a red-dangerous play and out of control.
The yellow for Milan for saluting L*ster fans was ridiculous-he should have booked Mdidi for booting the ball into the supporters as the same.
Only booked Milan because of the L*ster players.
Were we really that dirty-12 fouls and 4 yellows.
He should have wielded the cards early on those chopping challenges on COH.
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He 100% should have done.Why didn't he book the player for booting the ball into the crowd?
He’s kicked the ball and DH has ran into him as much as Thomas slid into him. Initially I thought it was probably a pen but from that angle no.With laws as they are currently, it’s a pen. He gets the ball but his follow through would be deemed as reckless, gets him on the knee with his studs.
I said the same at half time. He tried too hard to let the game flow then effectively lost control of the game which is what led to their red.For me, the ref was too lenient first half. Was allowing them to foul persistently without sanction. He had to pull a yellow earlier.
Totally agree with there goalkeeper and out if control flying kick! If Godden had not the foresight to shift his head sideways he would have connected with his head.I keep going back and forwards on the pen, can't make my mind up on it.
Definite red though.
Their keeper should have been minimum booked and possibly sent off for his flying karate kick though.
This really isn't true, even under the new stricter rules.It’s a non contact sport. Defenders have to play in what I would describe as five a side mode - you can’t go to ground.
Yep-a very fair point. VAR can give the Referee a get out if he makes an honest mistake-does that mean that they become a bit lazy and take their eye off the ball a bit and see it as a bit of an insurance policy?It’s no good having these prem refs as they are used to their mistakes being sorted(sometimes) by var. They are also very pally with the ex prem players like Wanks (no idea how he ever played in the prem).
Room of refs always says an orange should be given as a redView attachment 33364
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Sums it up for me. Pen was a mad decision.
Red card was harsh. Felt like a 'bad yellow'.
It looked pretty dangerous in real time to be honest. The penalty however looked ridiculous in real time and more so in the replay.Room of refs always says an orange should be given as a red
The behind the goal looked pretty reckless but it’s subjective all you can say is the ref was close to not guessIt looked pretty dangerous in real time to be honest. The penalty however looked ridiculous in real time and more so in the replay.
And the ref was looking right at it, he was gash
What serious injury did he cause?Have to be clever but you can’t follow throigh and cause serious injury
Penalty was debatable. I can see why it was given.View attachment 33364
Taken form the BBC match report.
Sums it up for me. Pen was a mad decision.
Red card was harsh. Felt like a 'bad yellow'.
None doesn’t mean it couldn’t be deemed recklessWhat serious injury did he cause?
Dewsbury-Hall was left with a broken heartWhat serious injury did he cause?
So then you should have said can’t follow through and potentially cause serious injury. Didn’t seem to be a mark in his leg.None doesn’t mean it couldn’t be deemed reckless
That was after 94 minutes, the tosser.Dewsbury-Hall was left with a broken heart
it wasn't reckless and contact with an opponent doesn't equal a foulNone doesn’t mean it couldn’t be deemed reckless
Probably the most sensible post on this .Clearly Thomas has to firstly challenge and secondly get good purchase on the ball . From a defensive point he does both very effectivelyHaven't read much on the thread, but the penalty really confused me. It seemed really reckless, in the context of Thomas's high foot connecting with KDH. But Thomas was going for the ball, easily got there first, and KDH was not in the line of Thomas's direction of travel when Thomas committed to clearing the ball. KDH moved in front of Thomas's travelling foot once Thomas was already committed, at no point did he aim his studs in KDH's direction. If you start saying footballers can't commit like that, then you're changing the dynamics of the game.
Do you think var would have given a red, one problem nowadays is a lot of major decisions are given by var.Probably the most sensible post on this .Clearly Thomas has to firstly challenge and secondly get good purchase on the ball . From a defensive point he does both very effectively
The aftermath of the challenge is where the FA and current guidelines muddy the waters . What is he supposed to do when he is fully committed? Where does he need to position his trailing limbs and body ?
The modern game and guidelines don't make the game flow they complicate
I can see why the pen was given although I did not think it was. Both Robins and Pearson thought it was. Taggart ex Leicester play on highlights commentary said he was not sure about it and looked surprised. With VAR who knows , if they couldn't even spot the foul on Burnley's keeper or the ludicrous pen given against Inter Milan then I have no idea.Do you think var would have given a red, one problem nowadays is a lot of major decisions are given by var.
Games have two refs now var and an individual with a whistle.
Think about someone like Lloyd McGrath. How whole career built around tackling. Good, hard, legal tackling. If he comes along nowadays he simply doesn’t have a career. It’s a block, jockey and head game for defenders now. You just can’t risk tackling. Look no further than the Leicester pen today for evidence of that.This really isn't true, even under the new stricter rules.
Could you not say this about any time someone kicks the ball hard?None doesn’t mean it couldn’t be deemed reckless
Course but when that recklessness ends with a stud to the inside of someone’s thigh it’s a little awkward to ignoreCould you not say this about any time someone kicks the ball hard?
Anyone who says it was a penalty is talking nonsense, Robins included.
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