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[Hobo]

The foul he gave against Palmer when he got booked was shocking.

Palmer got booked for kicking the ball away. I don't think it was dissent at the decision. I think Palmer was more frustrated at fucking up a good opportunity through poor ball control. Moments later he approached the ref in a lull in play and appeared to explain his actions.

Whether it was a foul or not is irrelevant. If you react like that and kick the ball away with such aggression it is a booking all day long.

 

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[Robinshio]

The foul he gave against Palmer when he got booked was shocking.

He got booked for kicking the ball away. Nowhere near as bad as their player blasting it into singers corner

 

[Nick]

Palmer got booked for kicking the ball away. I don't think it was dissent at the decision. I think Palmer was more frustrated at fucking up a good opportunity through poor ball control. Moments later he approached the ref in a lull in play and appeared to explain his actions.

Whether it was a foul or not is irrelevant. If you react like that and kick the ball away with such aggression it is a booking all day long.

I mean the foul he gave against him. I know he was booked for kicking the ball away.

Funnily enough their players got away with it multiple times.

 

[Robinshio]

Palmer got booked for kicking the ball away. I don't think it was dissent at the decision. I think Palmer was more frustrated at fucking up a good opportunity through poor ball control. Moments later he approached the ref in a lull in play and appeared to explain his actions.

Whether it was a foul or not is irrelevant. If you react like that and kick the ball away with such aggression it is a booking all day long.

Only when we do it

 

[Nick]

He got booked for kicking the ball away. Nowhere near as bad as their player blasting it into singers corner

Yep, mve booked for celebrating towards their fans but it's ok to boot a ball at ours.

 

[Hobo]

Agreed that did piss me off how can Palmer get done for it early on then no other player. That's a lack of consistency. Similar with Tats getting booked for gobbing off... He can't even speak English!!!!

So if you gob off in a foreign language you can't get booked? That's an interesting theory

 

[Hobo]

I mean the foul he gave against him. I know he was booked for kicking the ball away.

Funnily enough their players got away with it multiple times.

They did it but more subtle. Palmer put so much aggression into it I don't think he had a choice.

I was annoyed at Palmer, because in a high level game you shouldn't pick up cheap bookings like that and leave yourself on a knife edge.

 

[skyblu3sk]

So if you gob off in a foreign language you can't get booked? That's an interesting theory

I was just a bit baffled when he got booked if he doesn't know a lot of English did they start with "ref you haven't got a clue you spanner"

 

[long way home]

Robins, plays a very good media game, he keeps it low key and doesn't really get involved with opinions with incidents. I bet within the dressing room he is different and at home kicks the cat every opportunity he gets.

Im sure he will of pulled Thomas to oneside to give his support. I also think Robins will be more upset with how it came about than the incident itself. He will want the play pre incident to be sharper and not to put things in the refs hands. He will be telling all the refs any given week do things differently so don't give them reason to become the talking point.

My opinion of Robins as manager he views every outcome as an opportunity to improve the group and individual. Win, lose or draw he talks about growth and a opportunity to learn and get better never dweals or points fingers, just has a standard and expectation that drives the culture. If you don't buy in you will be shown the door.

 

[Adge]

That was indeed an amusing exchange. After years of mocking players in League 1/2 (some higher!) we find out he thinks the 9th tier is a good standard of football for players… because he officiates it.

Standard.

 

[Nick]

They did it but more subtle. Palmer put so much aggression into it I don't think he had a choice.

I was annoyed at Palmer, because in a high level game you shouldn't pick up cheap bookings like that and leave yourself on a knife edge.

Winks shouted aggressively in the refs face multiple times while on a booking.

Yes Palmer deserved a booking, the issue is inconsistency when they kick the ball away multiple times.

Same as in the first half, about 3 times their players got turned and we were away but they brought our players down. Should be a booking too.

How can saka be booked for dessent but winks not?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Robins, plays a very good media game, he keeps it low key and doesn't really get involved with opinions with incidents. I bet outwardly or in private he kicks the cat every opportunity he gets.

Im sure he will of pulled Thomas to oneside to give his support. I also think Robins will be more upset with how it came about than the incident itself. He will want the play pre incident to be sharper and not to put things in the refs hands. He will be telling all the refs any given week do things differently so don't give them reason to become the talking point.

My opinion of Robins as manager he views every outcome as an opportunity to improve the group and individual. Win, lose or draw he talks about growth and an opportunity to learn and get better never dweals or points fingers, just has a standard and expectation that drives the culture. If you don't buy in you will be shown the door.

Consistent too

 

[long way home]

I wish the refs were the same. If they were 8 pages of opinion would not be needed.

 

[Hobo]

Winks shouted aggressively in the refs face multiple times while on a booking.

Yes Palmer deserved a booking, the issue is inconsistency when they kick the ball away multiple times.

Same as in the first half, about 3 times their players got turned and we were away but they brought our players down. Should be a booking too.

How can saka be booked for dessent but winks not?

I wasn't face to face with them like the ref neither were you so we will never know? Lots of players gob off after being booked every week including Cov Players.

There seems to be a lot of needless raking over pointless ashes on this thread...in a game we won. I doubt they will get a mention in the Monday morning team debrief

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

Standard.

Yep, unfortunately you walked straight into that one. Too much pride

 

[Nick]

On the ref note , can anybody explain why Wright got booked for being injured?

 

[skyblu3sk]

On the ref note , can anybody explain why Wright got booked for being injured?

Didn't the ref think he was taking the piss sitting a meter away from the touchline for treatment? So I'd assume time wasting which is probably harsh.

 

[Nick]

Didn't the ref think he was taking the piss sitting a meter away from the touchline for treatment? So I'd assume time wasting which is probably harsh.

Yeah but the ref stopped the game. He didn't have to, he could have played on as it wasn't a head injury.

I don't get how he was time wasting

 

[Great_Expectations]

Sorry-but you’ve fallen into the trap of listening to the “expert” pundits there. On the EFL ITV highlights the commentator said “it’s reckless and late”
If that was the case he would still be on the pitch as “reckless” is a caution (yellow card offence) and he was sent off for “excessive force” which is a dismissal from the field of play (red card).
A classic case of people employed in the sport who do not know the laws of the game unfortunately.

Get your point, but in this case it doesn’t apply.

I don’t watch any highlight shows so those words are my own and meant as descriptive as opposed to a reference to the actual rules. I’m not a Ref so I’m not au fait with the exact wording.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Yeah but the ref stopped the game. He didn't have to, he could have played on as it wasn't a head injury.

I don't get how he was time wasting

Well this is the problem when loads of players fake needing medical attention just to slow games down

 

[Adge]

Yep, unfortunately you walked straight into that one. Too much pride

Mmmmm-perhaps you much prefer the good old days of 6,000 V Carlisle including Burge, Kelly Evans, Haynes, Stevenson, Bigirimana, Hickman, Shipley, Ponticelli et al. You must do because your obsession to bring it into every discussion is mind boggling.
I’ll stick with my 3-1 v Leicester City instead.
All the best

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

Mmmmm-perhaps you much prefer the good old days of 6,000 V Carlisle including Burge, Kelly Evans, Haynes, Stevenson, Bigirimana, Hickman, Shipley, Ponticelli et al. You must do because your obsession to bring it into every discussion is mind boggling.
I’ll stick with my 3-1 v Leicester City instead.
All the best

Some players you would rate as world class there tbf by your own measure, League 1/2.

 

[COVKIDSNEVERQUIT]

Yeah a still image is great, it makes it look like he's miles late after the player has gone by him. He's just kicked the ball and their player has actually gone into him.

Where was he meant to put his leg after he stretched to kick it? He wasn't even going in the direction of the player, their player went into him.

Yeah, anyone who has played football would know, once you're committed to the the tackle it's hard to pull out and if he did he would be crucified by the Manager and fans.

 

[skyblu3sk]

Yeah but the ref stopped the game. He didn't have to, he could have played on as it wasn't a head injury.

I don't get how he was time wasting

I remember in the replay the ref asked him to get off the pitch and our medical team came on I wonder if he hadn't allowed them on the pitch or something. He was being a tyke he knew what he was doing

 

[shmmeee]

Kicking the ball against the ad hoardings so it bounces back closer than it was is not kicking the ball away and I’ll die on this hill.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Kicking the ball against the ad hoardings so it bounces back closer than it was is not kicking the ball away and I’ll die on this hill.

No offence of kicking ball away there is for dissent by action though which this was

 

[stupot07]

Just watched City Unseen, and the penalty decision at full speed from a low angle looks absolutely nailed on. From the stand you could see Thomas get the ball (regardless of the follow through), you can see it int he replay from behind the goal, but from the refs eye view level it looked nailed on.

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[Frostie]

The Everton one was probably a bit worse as the other player was in possession of the ball before it.

Far, far worse than Thomas's challenge. Barely given a second glance.

 

[shmmeee]

No offence of kicking ball away there is for dissent by action though which this was

The ball is closer! He’s being helpful. It’s better than a striker shooting the ball into the net after the whistle and that’s never penalised.

 

[David O'Day]

Far, far worse than Thomas's challenge. Barely given a second glance.

it's far, far worse and that's no penalty

The everton player doesn't as Thomas did catch teh player as the player moved into his leg, he absolutely clatters his standing leg

No pen and no much of a noise at the time

 

[stupot07]

No offence of kicking ball away there is for dissent by action though which this was

Yeah he kicked it in anger at the refs decision, it was for dissent.

To be fair, there has been a new directives on kicking the ball away is more around time wasting:

Time wasting: Any attempt at time wasting will result in a mandatory yellow card. This will include kicking the ball away, walking/running off with the ball, interfering with an opponent taking a free-kick etc.



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[Brighton Sky Blue]

Yeah he kicked it in anger at the refs decision, it was for dissent.

To be fair, there has been a new directives on kicking the ball away is more around time wasting:

Time wasting: Any attempt at time wasting will result in a mandatory yellow card. This will include kicking the ball away, walking/running off with the ball, interfering with an opponent taking a free-kick etc.



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Doesn't explain how so many of their players got away with similar yesterday. Ref was just really poor all round

 

[stupot07]

it's far, far worse and that's no penalty

The everton player doesn't as Thomas did catch teh player as the player moved into his leg, he absolutely clatters his standing leg

No pen and no much of a noise at the time

Yeah it's ridiculous, then you Calvert-Lewin sent off last week, and the Jota penalty against Newcastle. There really shouldn't be this level of inconsistency, and the VAR would have reviewed the Everton one today.

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[stupot07]

Doesn't explain how so many of their players got away with similar yesterday. Ref was just really poor all round

Because Refs are inconsistent and nearly always have unconscious bias towards "bigger" teams.

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

Because Refs are inconsistent and nearly always have unconscious bias towards "bigger" teams.

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Which would be the reverse of what ‘Enzo’ said