Referee (3 Viewers)

[Frostie]

Brilliant piece this.

Forest row shows size of task refs face in adapting to demands of VAR era

As Nottingham Forest rage and Stuart Attwell is selected for Euro 2024, is refereeing really in crisis, and what's been done about it?

www.espn.com

 

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[robbiethemole]

it's a good read, but surely with all the slush money swilling around at the top levels, they should be having the best tech available??

I could have produced a better picture on Sunday with an old Polaroid Instamatic. lol

 

[Frostie]

it's a good read, but surely with all the slush money swilling around at the top levels, they should be having the best tech available??

I could have produced a better picture on Sunday with an old Polaroid Instamatic. lol

Yep but you're still chasing the impossible.

As I always expected, VAR has made the game far, far worse & actually leads to more Ref abuse. They should have just invested that money into properly supporting, training & recruiting referees.

 

[shmmeee]

Brilliant piece this.

Forest row shows size of task refs face in adapting to demands of VAR era

As Nottingham Forest rage and Stuart Attwell is selected for Euro 2024, is refereeing really in crisis, and what's been done about it?

www.espn.com

Really good, but i think dodges the VAR question and paints it as an inevitability. Which is disappointing as it seemed to identify VAR as partly responsible for the rise in scrutiny of refs.

I’d like to see another approach. Much stricter rules about respecting officials brought in. Such as only the captain allowed to talk or an instant yellow. Along with maybe mics on refs to broadcast or at least record what’s being said both ways.

But also remove VAR, give the ref the ability to request a 30 second review of footage at the sidelines maybe. But for me VAR undermines the refs authority on the pitch and places unreasonable expectations on everyone involved. It’s not just a communication issue as the article suggests at time.

 

[robbiethemole]

I agree, but VAR should only be an advisory tool to help refs get the correct decision, it shouldn’t be used as the be-all and end-all
It should be like Rugby, highlighting foul play etc, that the ref misses, but only used if the ref asks for it on crucial decisions

 

[Otis]

Yep but you're still chasing the impossible.

As I always expected, VAR has made the game far, far worse & actually leads to more Ref abuse. They should have just invested that money into properly supporting, training & recruiting referees.

Or just use it for clear things the officials have missed, like "the player came from his own half" and foul play such as shirt pulling, elbowing, punching etc.

The goal line technology seems to work okay doesn't it?

Basically, stop using it for everything.

 

[MalcSB]

Or just use it for clear things the officials have missed, like "the player came from his own half" and foul play such as shirt pulling, elbowing, punching etc.

The goal line technology seems to work okay doesn't it?

Basically, stop using it for everything.

I really get sick of the shirt pulling. My theory remains that we should have shirts that tear easily if pulled - that would both leave the player free to carry on with the move and leave the shirt puller with a handful of torn shirt and clearly committed a foul

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I really get sick of the shirt pulling. My theory remains that we should have shirts that tear easily if pulled - that would both leave the player free to carry on with the move and leave the shirt puller with a handful of torn shirt and clearly committed a foul

Plus the replicas could still be sold for £60 each and need replacing dozens of times a season

 

[shmmeee]

Or just use it for clear things the officials have missed, like "the player came from his own half" and foul play such as shirt pulling, elbowing, punching etc.

The goal line technology seems to work okay doesn't it?

Basically, stop using it for everything.

Said in the other thread, I think it should be up to the ref to have a look at a replay if he wants. I think the whole idea of VAR undermines refs authority and you’re just replacing one fallible ref with another. May as well stick with the one you’ve got.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

I really get sick of the shirt pulling. My theory remains that we should have shirts that tear easily if pulled - that would both leave the player free to carry on with the move and leave the shirt puller with a handful of torn shirt and clearly committed a foul

Corners would be more like a Chippendales performance.

 

[MalcSB]

Corners would be more like a Chippendales performance.

or behaviour might change,

 

[ccfc922]

If only we had VAR

I don't personally have an issue with VAR if used for its intended purpose of clear and obvious errors.

The scaling down for a toe nail, then manipulating the frames to make the player offside is a joke.

Also, the 25 degree angle of the cameras. There should be multiple cameras every so often or on a rail that moves with the play.

 

[Nuskyblue]

I don't personally have an issue with VAR if used for its intended purpose of clear and obvious errors.

The scaling down for a toe nail, then manipulating the frames to make the player offside is a joke.

Also, the 25 degree angle of the cameras. There should be multiple cameras every so often or on a rail that moves with the play.

The angles I've seen in some of the sporting games seem to be like this. It wouldn't be beyond the wit of man to implement.

 

[pusbccfc]

Ref come off it

 

[ccfc922]

Completely ignored Palmer being dragged back and couldn't wait to the red out then.

Getting fed up of these cunts. Every fucking game, fuck off.

 

[pusbccfc]

If that's a red, we'd be going to Wembley next week. It's absolutely pathetic. All season

 

[ccfc922]

Thomas was coming across, so he would have been the last man. Fuck off.

 

[pusbccfc]

Thomas was coming across, so he would have been the last man. Fuck off.

They don't think about that. Robins needs to call it out

 

[ccfc922]

The bullshit with Eustace and Palmer too, the ref only gave the throw in based on Blackburn player's reactions....

 

[ccfc922]

They don't think about that. Robins needs to call it out

Can't, FA will charge etc all protect each other, bunch of nonces.

 

[pusbccfc]

Can't, FA will charge etc all protect each other, bunch of nonces.

It's every week. Human error is one thing but we've had 7/8 manor decisions against us in 4 weeks FFS.

 

[ccfc922]

Glad Lati eventually was allowed his boot back

 

[ccfc922]

It's every week. Human error is one thing but we've had 7/8 manor decisions against us in 4 weeks FFS.

Completely agree mate, but idk what else to say. It screams corruption, but respect the ref etc

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Completely agree mate, but idk what else to say. It screams corruption, but respect the ref etc

Nah incompetence not corruption

 

[pusbccfc]

Nah incompetence not corruption

Which needs calling out. It's not good enough.

 

[ccfc922]

Nah incompetence not corruption

The 4th vs Man U seems more the latter than the former.

League decisions more incompetence.

 

[pusbccfc]

It will go our way next season, we are due it

 

[stupot07]

Robins had no complaints about Kitchings Red other than Kitching needs to cut it out and should have been in a better position defensively. He seemed more pissed off with Kitching.

 

[pusbccfc]

Robins had no complaints about Kitchings Red other than Kitching needs to cut it out and should have been in a better position defensively. He seemed more pissed off with Kitching.

Classic Robins

 

[jim20]

When there’s so much money involved, if those bad decisions hadn’t gone against us we could be in the playoffs and the prem, it’s just horrendous that still nothing is being done about it. The only consistent thing with the refs over the last few months have been the wrong decisions against us, some of the worst being the two goals for Southampton

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

They do say it evens out over a season. Doesn't seem like it has this year, we've had so many awful decisions against us, although no arguments with Kitching going off today.

 

[David O'Day]

Classic Robins

He never calls out decisions unless it costs us and then it is slyly like saying we got an apology letter from the EFL

 

[PVA]

Not a red for me. Too far out and Thomas was covering.

 

[pusbccfc]

He never calls out decisions unless it costs us and then it is slyly like saying we got an apology letter from the EFL

Even those aren't really much.

I guess we don't want him to be one of those managers that's calling them out every week but ultimately major decisions are going against us on a weekly occurrence now.

 

[MalcSB]

In terms of crap refs generally:-

Why didn’t Onana even get booked for double punching someone in the face?

What on earth was Anthony Taylor doing stopping play for no reason when West Ham’s keeper gave up possession of the ball when play was live?