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Para1140
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Until starmer shuts free speech down then you wont be able to say fck all
Jamesimus
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When’s that likely to happen?
Hmm just the o to organ grinder TBF!
mmttww
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Sky Blue Pete
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One of my friends is spouting it all day every day
mmttww
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Skybluekyle
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Not to go off topic, but I think my favourite comment online was from an American saying how sad it is that the UK doesn't have a Bill of Rights like the US to protect its freedom of speech.
The UK of course does have a Bill of Rights, 100 years older than the US Bill of Rights, and the US literally used it as one of its models...
thekidfromstrettoncamp
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I noticed the other day that when useing VAR last year they failed to intervene 17 times in the 380 games.I don't know how many are in the room but surely someone in there should be saying an incident needs to be checked. Am I expecting too much.
I think on the whole ref's do a good job .
I think on the whole ref's do a good job .
thekidfromstrettoncamp
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Watching Notts County tonight shit officials ,County's 2nd goal
thekidfromstrettoncamp
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Lost 2-0.
JimmyHillsbeard
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Comes around…. Remember when they had a perfectly good equaliser chalked off in a play off semi only to then concede another goal that had not one but two offside offences not given?
Brighton Sky Blue
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Jon Stead’s goal for them shouldn’t have stood either to be fair.
MalcSB
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Does it protect free speech? It doesn’t feel like it.
Johnnythespider
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What is it you feel you can't say ?
MalcSB
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I can’t say it.
How about that!
Skyblue Bangkok
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Free speech doesn't exist here(EU) or in many countries including the US whatever their bill of rights say. We live in a digital prison. Ok rant over.
No different to China is it?
You have the right to free speech up to a certain point, but you don't have the right to incite violence by what you say, nor can you say things that are untrue that could cause harm (physical or otherwise eg Joey Barton/Jeremy Vine), but you don't have the right to murder or steal someone's property either.
You do realise that would mean someone could go around telling a load of inflammatory lies about you to everyone you know? And you would have no recourse to protect yourself.
MalcSB
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Having limits is fine but it isn’t free speech. Libel / slander is wrong, incitement to violence is wrong. The definition of the “certain points” just seems to be contracting. You see people like JK Rowling pilloried for her opinions on what constitutes a woman, including by those ingrates whose fame and fortune rest entirely on her works. Christians have been imprisoned for expressing views entirely consistent with their faith, others‘ sensibilities being viewed as more important than theirs. That is not free speech.
Vanishingly small minorities are dictating what is, and what is not, acceptable behaviour and what can be said without fear of retribution.
JK Rowling has always said whatever she wants, I don't understand what point you're trying to make?
Which Christians are being imprisoned, how many centuries are you going back?
Skyblue Bangkok
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China s any interesting place I've been a few times was nd my son has moved there . The West lectures China and Co about human rights while our leaders ignore our own hypocrisy and mass surveillance.
Warwickhunt
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They conceded 2 goals after he was taken off!
mark82
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JK Rowling is expressing free speech. Those pillorying her are also expressing free speech by way of reply. Not sure this makes the point you think. Free speech doesn't give you the right to those words being accepted. It doesn't mean that you cannot be criticised for those words.
There will always be limits to what you can say when they cross into criminal acts. It's not so much the words but the actions that were related that people were punished for (rightly or wrongly). If you go online and suggest to people to smash up a hotel, then said hotel gets smashed up, you have played a part in that act.
MalcSB
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THE BANNED LIST
A growing list of speakers, academics, and others in the UK who have been banned, censored, disciplined or otherwise threatened for their views.
www.afaf.org.uk
Labour halts Tory law on freedom of speech in English universities
Education secretary ‘to consider options’ including repeal of controversial powers introduced by last government
Legia Sky Blue
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Like with the Bristol goal, Fadz scored a goal at Norwich last season that their keeper would not have got close to, but was disallowed as one of our players was directly in front of their keeper.