The commonality is Indoctrination.
The commonality is Indoctrination.What is the difference between a religion and a cult?
No religion speaks for anyone. People speak for their religious beliefsWhy?
How can God or Jesus speak for me or "Claim ",me?
The same as what right does the "State",own me?
And a bad priest goes to heaven because most of the time he does the work of the Lord?If I don't believe in God and think religion is man made bollocks, does this mean I will go to hell for eternity? Even though I do a hell of a lot more for the vulnerable within society than most people?
I follow a church set up by Jesus martcovYou follow a church setup by this murderer, not very funny really, is it?
I'm sorry which one astuteDid you look at the link SB put on here?
It is the line of thought I have had for a bit of time now. Bit of a scary thought if you think about it too hard though.
It can't claim you or speak for you. You are responsible for you no one elseWhy?
How can God or Jesus speak for me or "Claim ",me?
The same as what right does the "State",own me?
I suppose I'd ask both of you why do you care what people say happens to you after you die. It appears you believe do unto others as they do to you and that's absolutely fine. Life is for living I think you'd be surprised if we discussed the christysn faith in a pub for a period of timeAnd a bad priest goes to heaven because most of the time he does the work of the Lord?
I'm not sure you and I decide who is welcome in gods kingdom. For me I'm more bothered about my responses to what life throws at me and how I respond than judging othersAnd a bad priest goes to heaven because most of the time he does the work of the Lord?
Why do you care? I think that god is bigger than all our petty squabbles and limited understanding but then I'm probably veering towards a Christian Universalism. Not to placate you guys but that seems to fit more with gods eternal character. Friends disagree and talk about his purity and holiness but that's something we won't know till we are under the ground. Well our bodies are at leastIf I don't believe in God and think religion is man made bollocks, does this mean I will go to hell for eternity? Even though I do a hell of a lot more for the vulnerable within society than most people?
Here you go.Why is it so hard to accept that there is no meaning or purpose to life? Both of these are man made concepts.
It is much more likely that we are part of a simulation by a superior species than there being a God.
We might live in a computer program, but it may not matter
We won't know anything as our brain will have died, and along with it, the concept of the self and time.
Not me. I'm going to become ashes instead just on the off chance I got the god thing wrong and would have been heading towards hellWhy do you care? I think that god is bigger than all our petty squabbles and limited understanding but then I'm probably veering towards a Christian Universalism. Not to placate you guys but that seems to fit more with gods eternal character. Friends disagree and talk about his purity and holiness but that's something we won't know till we are under the ground. Well our bodies are at least
What do you think gods Kingdom is like?I'm not sure you and I decide who is welcome in gods kingdom. For me I'm more bothered about my responses to what life throws at me and how I respond than judging others
Or he fancied a pet more than human company.....or he isn't human......If there is a God then this has to mean that humans lived at the same time as dinosaurs?
Same question to you but why is it so hard to accept there is something more.We won't know anything as our brain will have died, and along with it, the concept of the self and time.
Same question to you but why is it so hard to accept there is something more.
500 or so eye witnesses to Jesus coming back from the dead and 2000 years later still going strong
Really made me smileNot me. I'm going to become ashes instead just on the off chance I got the god thing wrong and would have been heading towards hell
I don't see why? Could you explain ?? I think it's clear they were on earth hundreds of millions of years ago and human beings nowhere near that long. I'm not a creationist there are things I cannot explain and that's ok for me. Not to not seek answers but to seek them in a narrative where god isIf there is a God then this has to mean that humans lived at the same time as dinosaurs?
I don't see why? Could you explain ?? I think it's clear they were on earth hundreds of millions of years ago and human beings nowhere near that long. I'm not a creationist there are things I cannot explain and that's ok for me. Not to not seek answers but to seek them in a narrative where god is
But I thought that god is said to have created the world we live in.I don't see why? Could you explain ?? I think it's clear they were on earth hundreds of millions of years ago and human beings nowhere near that long. I'm not a creationist there are things I cannot explain and that's ok for me. Not to not seek answers but to seek them in a narrative where god is
of course it is a whole load of contradictions how could it not be. You need to see the meta narrative of god and his interactions with his people. As I've said before there is poetry, history, stories, myths and much more. It's written about a time before us and people who aren't us. It doesn't mean there isn't great wisdom included in it.Or he fancied a pet more than human company.....or he isn't human......
It must be hard to work out what you think is the truth from a book that contradicts itself.
Darwin was a clergyman I think he got some things spot on other things are a theory that is the best guess as science would say. I have no problem with the theory of natural selection but I'm not a biologist so I don't know the detail to have more than a man in the street discussionWhy is it so hard to accept there isn't? Why is it so hard to accept that there is literally no point and purpose to life?
I'd rather listen to reason and science than whispers from a book written by men about someone 'coming back from the dead' 2000 years ago.
Do you believe that Darwin was wrong? Was he one of Satan's crew?
Sorry could you say which post. The genesis narrative of cessation is written in mythical form it's a story with a truth to tell. He created it yes, how who knowsBut I thought that god is said to have created the world we live in.
Have you read SB's link yet? It will give you a good idea where a lot of non believers consider us to possibly have come from.
And this is my problem with the bible. I am supposed to take it as the truth and follow it. But how can you follow something that contradicts itself? And if they can get a book wrong how much can viewing something change over 2,000 years?of course it is a whole load of contradictions how could it not be. You need to see the meta narrative of god and his interactions with his people. As I've said before there is poetry, history, stories, myths and much more. It's written about a time before us and people who aren't us. It doesn't mean there isn't great wisdom included in it.
How does one know the truth? Good question how do we know truth? Is there universal truth for all time and for all people?
This oneSorry could you say which post. The genesis narrative of cessation is written in mythical form it's a story with a truth to tell. He created it yes, how who knows
This one here SBPWhy is it so hard to accept that there is no meaning or purpose to life? Both of these are man made concepts.
It is much more likely that we are part of a simulation by a superior species than there being a God.
We might live in a computer program, but it may not matter
..and carbon dating is a flawed concept.If there is a God then this has to mean that humans lived at the same time as dinosaurs?
Same question to you but why is it so hard to accept there is something more.
500 or so eye witnesses to Jesus coming back from the dead and 2000 years later still going strong
What do you want? Black and white answers? Life is rarely like that.And this is my problem with the bible. I am supposed to take it as the truth and follow it. But how can you follow something that contradicts itself? And if they can get a book wrong how much can viewing something change over 2,000 years?
Sorry I think that what was written in the gospels was a follow up to the word of mouth stories that was typically how history was told in that world. There is strong literary evidence for the information included in the gospels and acts of the apostlesActually the idea was only floated in about 70CE in the gospel of Mark and I think it is more likely the idea came about by literal interpretations of a metaphor.
That's a brilliant proposition isn't it?This one
This one here SBP
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