He might be a bit blinkered then. I can’t see it and would be really surprised if we pass this seasons season ticket sales.They are
They are
yes it’s irrelevant. What isn’t of course is the attendance figures. The real alarming thing is the way the club structures itself we are a loss making model already and it’s getting worse
Agree, it's a millstone we don't need.not owning the stadium is probably a Godsend tbh I’d have tied up a 50 year sub lease the minute wasps started to talk about needing the club back
And why the hell not? We should be beating the numbers based on what fans say they want. Relative success and attractive football, but lots of the so called supporters will blame something they can’t control.They are
He and many others don’t want a sustainable club they want someone else to give their money without expecting it back. It’s fair enough most other clubs have itHow many clubs at this level don't make a loss? In the current environment of the championship I'm not sure there is a sustainable way to run a club.
And why the hell not? We should be beating the numbers based on what fans say they want. Relative success and attractive football, but lots of the so called supporters will blame something they can’t control.
If after this season you’re thinking not again about a season ticket I despair
While I agree with you, tbf I think Pete was suggesting if you had a season ticket this season, then it wouldn't be the product that stopped you renewing next, which is where you're in agreement.In fairness Pete, it's not just about the football. If it was I'd be there every week because I still love the game and the club.
However it's the cost and the overall experience, as saddlebrains alludes to above. Not enough spare cash and a bit too much hassle to make it a regular thing, for me at least. That's a pity, because I had an ST for, well, decades basically.
That said, I've still got absolute respect for everyone who does pay out for an ST. I'd have to accept that they're doing more for the club than I am.
I’m sorry!! We are all fans I just can’t believe it’s wrong for the club to think we should aim for similar season ticket salesIn fairness Pete, it's not just about the football. If it was I'd be there every week because I still love the game and the club.
However it's the cost and the overall experience, as saddlebrains alludes to above. Not enough spare cash and a bit too much hassle to make it a regular thing, for me at least. That's a pity, because I had an ST for, well, decades basically.
That said, I've still got absolute respect for everyone who does pay out for an ST. I'd have to accept that they're doing more for the club than I am.
Being the 9th largest city will ‘in no way‘ equate to having the 9th largest fan base or average crowd ‘and for many reasons’ not least some of the larger cities have more than one bigger club eg: LONDON; Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea, West Ham, Palace, Fulham. BIRMINGHAM; Villa, West Brom, Birmingham. MANCHESTER; Utd, City. LIVERPOOL; Everton, Liverpool. SHEFFIELD; Utd, Wednesday.
So that’s 15 bigger clubs in those 5 cities alone, then you have a cluster of clubs from smaller cities that have larger fan bases than us for numerous different reasons, historical success, geographic position, recent relevant success etc; Sunderland, Southampton, Wolverhampton, Ipswich, Norwich, Portsmouth, Watford, Burnley, Derby, Middlesbrough, Stoke.
If you then add Leeds, Newcastle, Nottingham Forest, Leicester and we are probably about bang on our correct position of 30th
I havnt had a full season ticket for 15 years until this season, had part ones before normally after Christmas, will be renewing in the summer as feel if I don't I'm letting the Club down especially after the relatively successful last 5 years!And why the hell not? We should be beating the numbers based on what fans say they want. Relative success and attractive football, but lots of the so called supporters will blame something they can’t control.
If after this season you’re thinking not again about a season ticket I despair
If you need support in getting a season ticket then on this very forum help is at hand.In fairness Pete, it's not just about the football. If it was I'd be there every week because I still love the game and the club.
However it's the cost and the overall experience, as saddlebrains alludes to above. Not enough spare cash and a bit too much hassle to make it a regular thing, for me at least. That's a pity, because I had an ST for, well, decades basically.
That said, I've still got absolute respect for everyone who does pay out for an ST. I'd have to accept that they're doing more for the club than I am.
Nor did the likes of leicester, fill their ground until they made the Prem thats just one team there are lots of examples.But we've never hardly gone over the 20k ceiling for home fans at the Ricoh so what's your point
No it's not.Nor did the likes of leicester, fill their ground until they made the Prem thats just one team there are lots of examples.
We would sell out every week in the Prem Fact thats the point.
That person will earn in a year what a player earns in a month.We can only have 4 CBs because we've used the money to get a new head of ticketing.
Without interested owners our growth will stop.
If you need support in getting a season ticket then on this very forum help is at hand.
By no meaningful measure is Coventry the 9th largest city in England. City populations are often determined by artificial lines on a map drawn by civil servants. Coventry is nowhere near as big as Nottingham or Newcastle, but the 'city' population says it is. As a single urban sprawl these places are much bigger than Coventry. Conurbation size is a far better measure of the size of a 'place', and Coventry is about 20th on that list.
Not necessarily, there’s a way to invest but get a return. The current strategy isn’t a bad one. Buy low sell high.He and many others don’t want a sustainable club they want someone else to give their money without expecting it back. It’s fair enough most other clubs have it
What does success look like to you?Not necessarily, there’s a way to invest but get a return. The current strategy isn’t a bad one. Buy low sell high.
what we need is someone to take the gamble. Sign 5/6 good players sell 1 each year.Thats what we started with and what Brentford did. Its also about keeping those players on long term contracts. If we had 5/6 new players in - selling Hamer for example wouldn’t be a ball ache.
we’ve got this much vaunted recruitment system, let’s believe in it. We’re currently signing 1/2 each season and that’s it. It’s nowhere near enough to make this model successful
I’m not getting what you’re getting at? We agree. Ongoing progression is good.What does success look like to you?
Automatic promotion?
I’ll let you into a secret it’s not going to happen
Or?
Ongoing progression
We agree then. Sisu will not other than in the form of high interest loans.I’m not getting what you’re getting at? We agree. Ongoing progression is good.
but at some point we’re going to stall, and stagnate. I don’t want the owners to throw cash with no way of getting the money back. If we’re going to continue to progress, eventually they’re going to have to invest in new and more assets.
A hedge fund is supposed to attract investorsWe agree then. Sisu will not other than in the form of high interest loans.
Just the best judge of the future is what’s happened in the past!A hedge fund is supposed to attract investors
Just the best judge of the future is what’s happened in the past!
I do wonder what robins would consider what level of budget would allow him to progress
Not straight away in my opinionIf owners has much larger funds at a takeover they’d get rid of him
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