Is that monetarily, IE cheaper tickets on greater numbers?Unless people start paying for tickets they will not be able to turn it around.
Although they average 16kish, which is over double what they got at wycombe, ticket sales are only up by 19%.
After his 2nd post it appears it's me who maybe mistaken, and if that is the case
I 'like you do not share his optimism that SISU will do the right thing.:emoji_thinking:
Pathetic, what possible reason could there be to refuse mediation unless they don't want us to stay at the Ricoh on a fair deal.
At least he's been caught out lying, and not for the first time, although I'm sure the usual suspects will be along shortly to defend him.
That is not, as far as we are concerned, an issue which requires mediation as we are open to an approach
From this:
Sounds like he's calling Sisu's bluff.
Sounds like a reasonable position. Sisu want mediation for something they haven't started negotiation on. Mediation was always a red herring to buy them time and give them an out.
Yet again: no one but Sisu has a responsibility to us, to everyone else we are just a business under the same rules with no special treatment. That's life, no point crying about it.
We chose to go homeless. We chose a short term deal. We decided this whole route was best for the club. We can't bitch when it turns out it was a stupid move, literally no one made us do it.
Why would he be calling sisu's bluff? It was wasps not sisu that pulled out of talks. I'm sure the club would be more than willing to do another 2+2 year deal on reasonable terms.From this:
Sounds like he's calling Sisu's bluff.
Sounds like a reasonable position. Sisu want mediation for something they haven't started negotiation on. Mediation was always a red herring to buy them time and give them an out.
Yet again: no one but Sisu has a responsibility to us, to everyone else we are just a business under the same rules with no special treatment. That's life, no point crying about it.
We chose to go homeless. We chose a short term deal. We decided this whole route was best for the club. We can't bitch when it turns out it was a stupid move, literally no one made us do it.
More PR by Wasps. Perhaps they don't want mediation as they want an unreasonable amount? Thing is, Wasps called talks off citing legal noise. Everyone lapped it up. Now there saying there is no problem, the club just need too talk to us. People again lapping it up, Wasps are being reasonable, SISU are being themselves. I personally would prefer mediation, minuted too. Would be best for all concerned, would allow judgements to be made on what happened rather than what may have happened.
surely all the club have to do its talk to them then ?
As soon as it becomes apparent that the deal is too high / not suitable, the club could call for mediation, citing unreasonable terms
Why would wasps want medication for something that hasn't happened.
I think we all need medication after how the last 9 years have panned out!!!
You only have to look at this thread to see why that's a bad idea. Wasps apparently changed their stance on talking to the club, didn't inform the club, but somehow its Fishers fault for not contacting them. MP wants to assist to help a deal get done, club says yes, Wasps refuse, nobody has a problem with it.As soon as it becomes apparent that the deal is too high / not suitable, the club could call for mediation, citing unreasonable terms
We all need that after supporting CCFC...medication
Or perhaps given the history of the Ricoh saga. All parties could get round a table with a mediator present, minute the meeting and try to come to a fair conclusion for the football club. That would make me happy, yes.
Not sure why people think it's unreasonable to suggest that.
Edit. No dispute but negotiations stopped due to a legal dispute?
You only have to look at this thread to see why that's a bad idea. Wasps apparently changed their stance on talking to the club, didn't inform the club, but somehow its Fishers fault for not contacting them. MP wants to assist to help a deal get done, club says yes, Wasps refuse, nobody has a problem with it.
If they started talking and a deal wasn't done as Wasps were being unreasonable they wouldn't get any of the blame.
Get someone neutral in there and then we'll where we really stand.
Also strange that people are desperate for MP's to be involved in stopping the club moving but not help negotiate a fair deal for the club to stay? Almost as if people want the club to be held to ransom by Wasps.
If you were Eastwood or Fisher, would you blame either for being distrustful of anything the other said, and finding private talks a waste of time as they'd both be spouting bullshit at one another?Where is the wrong in short circuiting the mediation and talking direct if that is what both parties really want?
Or perhaps given the history of the Ricoh saga. All parties could get round a table with a mediator present, minute the meeting and try to come to a fair conclusion for the football club. That would make me happy, yes.
Not sure why people think it's unreasonable to suggest that.
Edit. No dispute but negotiations stopped due to a legal dispute?
Clearly the best strategy for SISU is to not talk at all and tell the EFL the club is moving elsewhere till someone gives them what they want. Does this make you happy?
You clearly have no idea what mediation is. At this stage all they have to do is talk like adults, there is no dispute it is just a contract negotiation,
Anyway, didn't Anderson try talking and get nowhere, I suspect he was not negotiating on behalf of SISU but on behalf of his comnsortium.
Yes, that was when Wasps were saying they couldn't talk and people were lapping it up as the right thing to do to "show SISU".
Now suddenly Wasps have done a U Turn and it is just about "contract negotiations"
Couldn't make it up.
Why on earth would anybody be against mediation / independent involvement? It's almost as if they are worried about what might come out from it.
Why on earth would anybody be against mediation / independent involvement? It's almost as if they are worried about what might come out from it.
Maybe because there is no dispute yet? Maybe they can come to an agreement themselves? If not, then ask for mediation.
You clearly have no idea what mediation is. At this stage all they have to do is talk like adults, there is no dispute it is just a contract negotiation,
Anyway, didn't Anderson try talking and get nowhere, I suspect he was not negotiating on behalf of SISU but on behalf of his comnsortium.
Maybe because there is no dispute yet? Maybe they can come to an agreement themselves? If not, then ask for mediation.
the two parties most against mediation seem to be ccfc and wasps
the two parties most against mediation seem to be ccfc and wasps
On the contrary, 10 and under were free , schools and clubs still got their weekly ration of giveaways.28,500 paid full price against Saracens last week.
They make a small fortune in hospitality on top of that.
Will be even more against Leicester.
Didn't Anderson try that but Wasps threw out some bullshit about legal noise?
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