Richard Keogh (4 Viewers)

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

If the players hated his style so much then why did style get us top 4 place mid season???

You seem to forget that before Xmas and before the politics of Thomas going Liverpool we were looking steady. Alot of off the field troubles did contribute. I don't see how you can say the players didn't like playing under AB? For 20 games we were playoff contenders.

People also reckon King coming into the team didn't help and caused too much unrest amongst the changing rooms.

Has it really got better under thorn?

No it hasn't got better under Thorn but lets not kid ourselves about how it was under Boothroyd.

Most of the games in the first half of the season I remember us getting extremely lucky in a lot of the games, it was always going to go tits up for us under Boothroyd once our luck ran out.

 

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[CUS Wyken]

He would have done the way we were going. Remember AT took over the squad AB had. We only lost 2 out of the last 10 games. This saved us from relegation. We had gone from 4th to nearly 4th bottom. Selective memory again?

Yes AB is so good he has ended up at Northampton, who finished near the bottom of Div4 last season with AB in charge. Yes you are right as usual :facepalm:

Who said I was right!?! AB got alot of stick but never the praise for what he achieved first 20 games. As I said many factors surrounded the end of his tenure. He gets slated yet Thorn gets praise for Erm sending us down!!!

Tinted glasses on this site.

 

[Mumford and Daughter]

He would have done the way we were going. Remember AT took over the squad AB had. We only lost 2 out of the last 10 games. This saved us from relegation. We had gone from 4th to nearly 4th bottom. Selective memory again?

Yes AB is so good he has ended up at Northampton, who finished near the bottom of Div4 last season with AB in charge. Yes you are right as usual :facepalm:

andy thorn had his honeymoon period like all new managers do

boothroyd saved northampton from relegation.

lets hope next season we dont go down northampton come up , look silly then

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

Sorry mate, but you're wrong on this one.
I'm talking about wayyyy before Everton and Spurs "Came sniffing"......Westwood was s**t on, from a great height.
Westwood was interviewed, and said....."I've asked "The Gaffer" (Coleman) to approach the board about a contract extention, because I want to stay.
Coleman said he would, but was "Sacked" meantime.
Westwood was so peed off about being kept waiting for an answer (6 months) that he made the stance of "He will not re-sign."
The rest is history.

Yea I remember this, it was just the owners being tight fisted gits not wanting to pay him the improved contract for an extra year, always left it to the last second to save that extra pound.

 

[Mumford and Daughter]

No it hasn't got better under Thorn but lets not kid ourselves about how it was under Boothroyd.

Most of the games in the first half of the season I remember us getting extremely lucky in a lot of the games, it was always going to go tits up for us under Boothroyd once our luck ran out.

lol

so when it goes well its luck but when it doesnt it someones fault

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

He may not have took us down....But he did nothing about keeping us up!
May I add I'm by no means a Thorn lover either. It was stated(Correctly) by yourself, that he took us to, I think, for one week only 6th position. Also stated correctly(Astute), we came sliding down the league when other teams worked out the "Hoofroyd syndrome" Meantime Thorn tried to play "Football" which baffled the other teams, and got us the desired points to stay up.
He's done nothing since, and holds the unenviable title of "Worst Coventry City Manager..EVER"
:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

But for a lick of paint at Stoke, Coleman would've taken us down off the back of one of the worst ever 'must win' displays at Charlton. He had resources Boothroyd, Thorn, and Dowie could only dream of and wasted them on bottom half finishes-2 seasons on the spin; without question a worse City manager than AB.

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

lol

so when it goes well its luck but when it doesnt it someones fault

I remember us getting battered for 90 minutes by Leicester and Doncaster at home and coming out with 4 points, I remember us getting a dubious penalty away to Watford to equalise. I remember Sheff Utd hitting the woodwork 3/4 times and us winning 1-0, I remember Middelsbrough hitting the crossbar from a penalty and then again from the follow up and us going on to win 1-0, I remember Derby playing us off the park and us winning 2-1 all under the first half of the season under Boothroyd.

Sure we played well in some games Bristol and Ipswich away, Barnsley at home and credit goes for the resilience and character shown but anyone with 2 brain cells could see we had been massively riding our luck in the first half of the season and we were never genuine play off contenders.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

But for a lick of paint at Stoke, Coleman would've taken us down off the back of one of the worst ever 'must win' displays at Charlton. He had resources Boothroyd, Thorn, and Dowie could only dream of and wasted them on bottom half finishes-2 seasons on the spin; without question a worse City manager than AB.

The last three managers that we've had have been total, unadulterated, crap!!!
Dowie DID have the resoures...Who the hell do you think brought Scott Dann, and Danny Fox to the Ricoh?(For absolute buttons) btw. Then was sacked!!!.........It was under Colemans' reign that players were sold at a rapid rate.
For an intelligent person BSB, your maths is abominable....Thorn has had more straight defeats than any other manager on record at CCFC....and I take what you say about Stoke and the post, and "Must win at Charlton" but Thorns' tenure has been abysmal. Even "Hoofroyd" was sacked for losing only half the games Thorn did!!!

 

[wingy]

I did'nt like the style but i think we were genuine play off contenders at that point ,the loss of Turner ,Introduction of King ,boardroom shennannigins and finally Carsleys injury put paid to it ,along with ABs Loss of belief in the support behind his project.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

The last three managers that we've had have been total, unadulterated, crap!!!
Dowie DID have the resoures...Who the hell do you think brought Scott Dann, and Danny Fox to the Ricoh?(For absolute buttons) btw. Then was sacked!!!.........It was under Colemans' reign that players were sold at a rapid rate.
For an intelligent person BSB, your maths is abominable....Thorn has had more straight defeats than any other manager on record at CCFC....and I take what you say about Stoke and the post, and "Must win at Charlton" but Thorns' tenure has been abysmal. Even "Hoofroyd" was sacked for losing only half the games Thorn did!!!

Dowie had Dann and Fox for a handful of games and I suspect Ranson had more to do with it than the manager. Coleman had free reign to sign plenty of players in the summer after Charlton, and had us sitting in the play offs around March (anyone remember 'March to the Arch' on CWR?). After the Chelsea game it just fell to pieces-and then in the summer afterwards I agree SISU started to hit things by offloading Fox and Dann and offering Clingan and McIndoe in return-but even so, Coleman had more available in those circumstances than AB, Dowie, or Thorn. Thorn does have mitigating factors in my view which Coleman didn't-and I'm far from a Thorn obsessive as I've criticised his style countless times.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

If I remember correctly(Somebody might correct me) Dowie was sacked about 3-4 games after bringing Dann and Fox to Coventry. In my opinion, a disgusting move by SISU. Hoofroyd = "Kick and rush"....Coleman = "Park the bus":facepalm:... Thorn = "A little boy trying to play a big mans game",CCFC. worst season ever and STILL not having a clue.:thinking about:
Thorn is CCFC manager, and is still only the manager because he's like that comedy character Tim, "Nice but dim"

 

[Mumford and Daughter]

I did'nt like the style but i think we were genuine play off contenders at that point ,the loss of Turner ,Introduction of King ,boardroom shennannigins and finally Carsleys injury put paid to it ,along with ABs Loss of belief in the support behind his project.

boothroyd was dealt the hand after xmas with Thomas going liverpool , embargo coming in etc same as thorn.

thorn gets praise but AB gets slated

double standards

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

If I remember correctly(Somebody might correct me) Dowie was sacked about 3-4 games after bringing Dann and Fox to Coventry. In my opinion, a disgusting move by SISU. Hoofroyd = "Kick and rush"....Coleman = "Park the bus":facepalm:... Thorn = "A little boy trying to play a big mans game",CCFC. worst season ever and STILL not having a clue.:thinking about:
Thorn is CCFC manager, and is still only the manager because he's like that comedy character Tim, "Nice but dim"

He's the manager because he's cheap and convenient to keep in the post-he's still Head Scout so SISU get to save more cash on having to appoint one.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

boothroyd was dealt the hand after xmas with Thomas going liverpool , embargo coming in etc same as thorn.

thorn gets praise but AB gets slated

double standards

Check MY previous posts mate.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Just because other managers have also been sh*t doesn't make Boothroyd any good!

"But he did this, this and this after 20 games" yes because:
a) A season ends after 20 games
b) Lets ignore his overall record
c) Lets ignore what happened after November because it doesn't fit in with your "Aidy Boothroyd was great" argument

The only person being blinkered is the guy posting whose obviously a relation to Boothroyd.

 

[Sterling Archer]

boothroyd was dealt the hand after xmas with Thomas going liverpool , embargo coming in etc same as thorn.

thorn gets praise but AB gets slated

double standards

How many times had Connor Thomas played for the first team when he went to Liverpool? To use him as an example of how Boothroyd was dealt a bad hand is just ludicrous. Losing Westwood, Gunnarsson and King had a far bigger effect than when Thomas went on loan to Liverpool two seasons ago.

I'm not saying Thorn did a good job, nor saying he is any good but what I am saying is Boothroyd was sh*t. Thorn got King scoring. Thorn got Jutkiewicz scoring. Thorn had more decent players taken away from him than Boothroyd ever did.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

King scored more often because he'd got match sharpness back by the time Boothroyd was sacked. Oh, and without Boothroyd, we wouldn't have got King in the first place-which'd have left us with the forward line we started with this season.