Road closures (2 Viewers)

[Grendel]

You didn’t answer the question
For every 400 near misses there’s an accident and similar for accidents to serious accidents thats risk management and it’s why it’s done
Is it dangerous to mix 30000 with cars yes can we mitigate the risk yes? Should we? No fuck it well risk it come on answer please.

You are frothing - little point in discussing it with you.

The fact is some people are getting very pissed off at being kept in the grounds car parks are threatening to not go anymore

The road closure times are arbitrary. I’ve been stuck at one midweek game and didn’t complete a journey home which would take 20 minutes normally for 70 minutes

I stayed one week in the Anecdote for half an hour afterwards and the roads were still shut.

There is on access out of the car parks and traffic banks up due to the delays.

I have no idea what other clubs do. What do Derby do as an example. Similar crowds and a similar location

 

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[Grendel]

It's a welcome effort, but really it's a farcical attempt to solve a 'problem' (getting thousands of people from one train station to another) that has a screamingly obvious solution.

I don’t see the station as an obvious solution as who would provide the rolling stock?

 

[David O'Day]

To be fair if someone batters the bloke trying to reopen the road then that'll delay things

 

[SBT]

I don’t see the station as an obvious solution as who would provide the rolling stock?

The train company, or failing that, a charter service. It's not like they haven't done it before: London Midland hires rolling stock to plug sports gap | Railnews | Today's news for Tomorrow's railway

 

[Ccfc_Addy]

which way do they go? surely they still get caught up in the traffic?

I'm afraid I don't know the name of the road but they pick up at the bus stop behind Tesco, and every time I've been on one the traffic hasn't been a problem

 

[Nick]

I'm afraid I don't know the name of the road but they pick up at the bus stop behind Tesco, and every time I've been on one the traffic hasn't been a problem

Yeah it will need to go out onto Longford Road up to the Blue Ribbon Island which is gridlocked.

 

[Grendel]

The train company, or failing that, a charter service. It's not like they haven't done it before: London Midland hires rolling stock to plug sports gap | Railnews | Today's news for Tomorrow's railway

It’s a two coach platform. You would need trains going every 5 minutes to get people into the centre. I don’t see London midland provided that service every other week and I doubt they’d have the capacity

 

[chiefdave]

I’ve parked numerous places this year. I have to go onto M6, sometimes to Nuneaton first to drop off cousin.

I have parked twice at Novotel and surrounding areas and after walking 20/25 mins have then spent best part of 45 mins before I am on the motorway I can literally see.

Have had the same issues for all car parks I have tried.

Fucking bizarre that its easier heading back in to town than getting on a motorway! What's the hold up there, is it actually getting out of the Novotel car park or do they need to look at changing the lights on the roundabout to let more cars out of Pickards Way?

 

[Nick]

Fucking bizarre that its easier heading back in to town than getting on a motorway! What's the hold up there, is it actually getting out of the Novotel car park or do they need to look at changing the lights on the roundabout to let more cars out of Pickards Way?

All of the traffic is diverted over that way.

 

[SHUNT31]

Fucking bizarre that it’s easier heading back in to town than getting on a motorway! What's the hold up there, is it actually getting out of the Novotel car park or do they need to look at changing the lights on the roundabout to let more cars out of Pickards Way?

Both. Longford Road backs up which then gridlocks the A444/M6 roundabout.

Honestly, no idea how they solve it. The roads cannot cope with a closure so other solutions need to be found.

 

[robbiethemole]

What about any ordinary motorist who can’t use the 444 past Tesco to get on the M6? Why should they be inconvenienced by idiot pedestrians coming out of the ground?

 

[SBT]

It’s a two coach platform. You would need trains going every 5 minutes to get people into the centre. I don’t see London midland provided that service every other week and I doubt they’d have the capacity

The northbound platform is three coaches long, the southbound platform is six coaches long. (The train I caught on Wednesday was more than two coaches iirc)

There was a short-lived plan to increase capacity by using London Underground trains that could run every 20 minutes which would have been paid for by Wasps - don't know how feasible it was, but I would appreciate some kind of effort for a much bigger fanbase like ours. Otherwise if the mentality you're describing prevails then obviously it will never be fixed or improved.

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

The northbound platform is three coaches long, the southbound platform is six coaches long. (The train I caught on Wednesday was more than two coaches iirc)

There was a short-lived plan to increase capacity by using London Underground trains that could run every 20 minutes which would have been paid for by Wasps - don't know how feasible it was, but I would appreciate some kind of effort for a much bigger fanbase like ours. Otherwise if the mentality you're describing prevails then obviously it will never be fixed or improved.

Long long way off but is the tram system the council keep going on about planned to arrive at the arena?

 

[Grendel]

The northbound platform is three coaches long, the southbound platform is six coaches long. (The train I caught on Wednesday was more than two coaches iirc)

There was a short-lived plan to increase capacity by using London Underground trains that could run every 20 minutes which would have been paid for by Wasps - don't know how feasible it was, but I would appreciate some kind of effort for a much bigger fanbase like ours. Otherwise if the mentality you're describing prevails then obviously it will never be fixed or improved.

I don’t see a railway company commission rolling stock and making timetable changes for 23 days a year

 

[Ccfc_Addy]

The two-coach trains are a big part of the problem. I very much do not want to spend 40 minutes after the match standing at the platform gates mixing with the away fans, then when the train's in sight there's a massive push for the platform and people shoving their way to the front.

 

[David O'Day]

which way do they go? surely they still get caught up in the traffic?

The club buses go Windmill Road, Hall Green Road and then the Bell Green Road/Stoney Stanton Road in to town

 

[SBT]

I don’t see a railway company commission rolling stock and making timetable changes for 23 days a year

I guess we'll just keep everyone waiting in their cars then

 

[Nick]

What about any ordinary motorist who can’t use the 444 past Tesco to get on the M6? Why should they be inconvenienced by idiot pedestrians coming out of the ground?

They either come off at Blue Ribbon and down Longford Road or off at Holbrooks and through Ash Green.

All roads that also have roadworks.

 

[chiefdave]

All of the traffic is diverted over that way.

Roadworks or people who aren't waiting for the roads to reopen?

 

[chiefdave]

Both. Longford Road backs up which then gridlocks the A444/M6 roundabout.

Honestly, no idea how they solve it. The roads cannot cope with a closure so other solutions need to be found.

Ultimately you've got nearly 30K people going to a stadium that doesn't have the infrastructure to support that many people leaving. You see the same complaints whenever there's a concert in the stadium.

The solution is going to be increased public transport but we all know that's not happening anytime soon, other than that there's not really going to be a safe option that doesn't involve someone somewhere having to wait.

 

[chiefdave]

There was a short-lived plan to increase capacity by using London Underground trains that could run every 20 minutes which would have been paid for by Wasps - don't know how feasible it was

Coventry to Nuneaton trial scrapped after test train fire

A trial to see whether former London Underground trains could increase capacity in Warwickshire has been scrapped after a fire on a test train.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[SBT]

Coventry to Nuneaton trial scrapped after test train fire

A trial to see whether former London Underground trains could increase capacity in Warwickshire has been scrapped after a fire on a test train.

www.bbc.co.uk

Too perfect

 

[Tommo1993]

What about any ordinary motorist who can’t use the 444 past Tesco to get on the M6? Why should they be inconvenienced by idiot pedestrians coming out of the ground?

As much as I agree about the idiot pedestrian thing, we’re almost at the ‘Tesco shoppers angry that the area is busy on match days’ complaint.

 

[Nick]

Roadworks or people who aren't waiting for the roads to reopen?

You can't just sit and wait on the A444 roundabout for it to reopen

The traffic gets thrown down towards Longford or back around towards Bedworth (or back on the M6)

 

[Potbellypig]

I thought Blackburn Rd was in the parking restrictions?

I always used to park there but haven't for the last few years as I believed it had been added to the restrictions

Sorry, yeah yeah parking restrictions are still there mate. Don't bother. Honestly not worth the parking ticket...

 

[Grendel]

I guess we'll just keep everyone waiting in their cars then

Well do you see Network Rail commissioning a service?

 

[MusicDating]

The timing of the trains is completely maddening - I left a couple of minutes early on Wednesday to make the 21:50 and it was a breeze. Amend the schedule by even 10 minutes and you could allow hundreds more people to safely and easily leave the stadium; instead it’s almost perfectly timed so there’s no point even considering the train unless you leave early or wait almost an hour. And of course it doesn’t run at all on weekends because ~*~reasons~*~.

It’s so insane that I have to assume it’s deliberately inconvenient for crowd control reasons or something?

SAG originally restricted trains running for an hour after games - Ricoh Arena Station: Decision to ban fans signed off by council-headed group

Then West Midlands said they'd triple the service on Saturday's - CCFC & Wasps fans will finally be able to use Ricoh train station

It does look like there are extra trains after the game now, but still fairly infrequent and don't know the capacity -

 

[shmmeee]

Ten years and a whole new combined authority later and nothing has changed. Thanks Obama.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Pete,

Thanks for the message and thank-you for reaching out.

The road closure itself is managed and operated by the CBS Safety team, as a club we don’t have any involvement in the operation itself on the day and don’t have any control over the timings etc. Supporters who attend a game at the Arena are coming to see Coventry City FC and rightly want to communicate with the club and its important that everybody feels they can question when they feel something is not right. We are doing everything possible (it may not look like it which I suspect will be the feedback) to ensure things work smoothly on the day itself and ensure if things are not done correctly these are picked up and discussed in detail.

On Wednesday evening, there was a delay to the road closure opening due to an incident which involved a member of the road safety team while trying to open the road, which then further delayed the opening due to liaising with police and ensuring the member of staff was ok. I fully understand the frustration as I was sitting in the delays myself, we all want to get home after game quickly, especially a midweek game.

I am listening and as a team we are working hard to ensure we take feedback and relay and adjust where needed. On the points below, I will share and provide feedback.

Please feel free to ask any further questions.

Thanks
John


John Taylor
Chief Operating Officer
Coventry City Football Club
W: www.ccfc.co.uk

when he responds on the three specific points in question I’ll share

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Ten years and a whole new combined authority later and nothing has changed. Thanks Obama.

Ffs keir

 

[rob9872]

Pete,

Thanks for the message and thank-you for reaching out.

The road closure itself is managed and operated by the CBS Safety team, as a club we don’t have any involvement in the operation itself on the day and don’t have any control over the timings etc. Supporters who attend a game at the Arena are coming to see Coventry City FC and rightly want to communicate with the club and its important that everybody feels they can question when they feel something is not right. We are doing everything possible (it may not look like it which I suspect will be the feedback) to ensure things work smoothly on the day itself and ensure if things are not done correctly these are picked up and discussed in detail.

On Wednesday evening, there was a delay to the road closure opening due to an incident which involved a member of the road safety team while trying to open the road, which then further delayed the opening due to liaising with police and ensuring the member of staff was ok. I fully understand the frustration as I was sitting in the delays myself, we all want to get home after game quickly, especially a midweek game.

I am listening and as a team we are working hard to ensure we take feedback and relay and adjust where needed. On the points below, I will share and provide feedback.

Please feel free to ask any further questions.

Thanks
John


John Taylor
Chief Operating Officer
Coventry City Football Club
W: www.ccfc.co.uk

when he responds on the three specific points in question I’ll share

Sorry if I've missed it but what were the three specific points?

Could one option be that I suggested on the last forum thread about traffic on the motorway side of the ground being all funneled to the Motorway and on the Tesco side into town? It would free up lots of the traffic without risk to those crossing the roads and then when the other routes do open, the remaining traffic will also move more freely as lots of the congestion has already moved away from the area.

*edit: and if it isn't and you agree that it's a sensible solution, then can you put this to John and ask him to forward the suggestion to the policing or those who make the decision? Hard to believe as it's their job that they wouldn't already have considered it, but you never know I guess!

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Sorry if I've missed it but what were the three specific points?

Could one option be that I suggested on the last forum thread about traffic on the motorway side of the ground being all funneled to the Motorway and on the Tesco side into town? It would free up lots of the traffic without risk to those crossing the roads and then when the other routes do open, the remaining traffic will also move more freely as lots of the congestion has already moved away from the area.

*edit: and if it isn't and you agree that it's a sensible solution, then can you put this to John and ask him to forward the suggestion to the policing or those who make the decision? Hard to believe as it's their job that they wouldn't already have considered it, but you never know I guess!

Car park a is a shit show
Clear time line to expect
Lights stuck on red when nothing coming

 

[Williescar]

The club buses go Windmill Road, Hall Green Road and then the Bell Green Road/Stoney Stanton Road in to town

Not the one I was on.It went down Foleshill Road Not too bad

 

[torchomatic]

We park down the end of Hen Lane. I wondered why it so quiet and easy to get through the BR Island.

One man's pain is another man's gain.

 

[MTK]

We’ve found the parking generally miserable and frustrating this season. I’m not the driver but I can see how unpleasant it is being bumper to bumper, trying to drive with courtesy and give and take, only for a car to push in aggressively and almost hit yours as happened to us on Wednesday night. This car proceeded to continue to cause problems to the point that a road rage incident seemed imminent that we’d be unable to move away from. It might make me a bit of a wuss but it’s putting me off renewing my ST next season. I don’t know what the answer is. I just know it feels horrible after most games