You’re easily amazed I assume.
You’re easily amazed I assume.Well I will have to take your word for it,as don’t know about the other clubs.
But if as you say,they all have high profile performance directors,nutritionists and the number of coaches we are now employing. I will be amazed.
To be fair if it’s that bad, what can we do to help? No offensive to the coaches but wouldn’t want any of them to take over atm.
Only option would be to put George on the interviews but I get a sense from robins he wouldn’t allow it.
What’s going on in his personal life?Hence why I've been quite calm on all the Robins out talk etc
Especially with what he's going through at the moment in his personal life, I feel Doug could have pulled him out of the firing line tbh.
If Viveash was still here you'd have more than likely seen him in charge on Saturday, rightly so.
Robins deserves the time to turn it around. But we're in a results business and if results don't happen he will inevitably, rightly, be questioned
Mate I'm not against you honestly. You bring a lot of good stuff to this forum and I agree with you more often then not. It just seems when anything positive about Doug gets mentioned your straight onto it.You'll see
You fell for it. Reeled in just like that.What’s going on in his personal life?
Interestingly - Bristol City have a first team coach analyst - they have someone who analyses the coaches.Well I will have to take your word for it,as don’t know about the other clubs.
But if as you say,they all have high profile performance directors,nutritionists and the number of coaches we are now employing. I will be amazed.
Mate I'm not against you honestly. You bring a lot of good stuff to this forum and I agree with you more often then not. It just seems when anything positive about Doug gets mentioned your straight onto it.
Robins make a positive quote about Doug and now you saying essentially Robins is lying with his qoutes and he hates Doug??
Clearly you know much more than me but why such a downer on Doug? Must be more to it. Is it the way he's treated your insider mates or something?
Not at my age.You’re easily amazed I assume.
Don't confuse 'bought' with 'brought'.Don't get me wrong he has done some great things. The training ground is incredible compared to what it was, the off field structure, way better. Of course has allowed Robins to invest aswell
But this isn't from King. The club has been changed off the back of the 2 best players we have had in generations. 1 of them maybe THE best we've ever had the way he's going
Yes he's allowed us to reinvest when sisu wouldn't have. But is that not basic for a football club owner?
Secondly, I've been shouted down for it on here a few times, but again, he never 'brought' the club. He was given the club. He had the ability to put Sisu under but what would he get? Pennies in the pound. This way he has a real chance of getting back his investment lost with sisu previously.
Ask yourself why would a man, who openly admitted he had never been to a match or even knew where the CBS was would buy us?
Why did literally no media get wind? Not even the local paper. A tweet from the club out of the blue saying a man no one had ever heard of, who shared offices with sisu and proven links with Dermot Coleman had brought us.
It's all over sky sports news when anyone even thinks of taking a club over. Nothing at all for us.
Sisu we're and still are, destitute. We were weeks away from going tits up, Hyam was sold to pay the tax bill. We brought 1 free agent and 2 loans in in that window.
Why is everything within 5 years (now 4) stadium deal, prem package, Robins contract etc.
The signs are quite obvious that this wasn't a normal takeover. I dont trust the man, I never have and never will due to how he acquired the club.
As I say he's run us a lot better than the previous shitshow that nearly took us into oblivion numerous times and can't knock him for that. But the adulation and putting on a pedestal isn't for me
Don't confuse 'bought' with 'brought'.
Don't confuse 'bought' with 'brought'.
Fair comment Saddle. I understand your point of view better. I guess time will tell mate.Don't get me wrong he has done some great things. The training ground is incredible compared to what it was, the off field structure, way better. Of course has allowed Robins to invest aswell
But this isn't from King. The club has been changed off the back of the 2 best players we have had in generations. 1 of them maybe THE best we've ever had the way he's going
Yes he's allowed us to reinvest when sisu wouldn't have. But is that not basic for a football club owner?
Secondly, I've been shouted down for it on here a few times, but again, he never 'brought' the club. He was given the club. He had the ability to put Sisu under but what would he get? Pennies in the pound. This way he has a real chance of getting back his investment lost with sisu previously.
Ask yourself why would a man, who openly admitted he had never been to a match or even knew where the CBS was would buy us?
Why did literally no media get wind? Not even the local paper. A tweet from the club out of the blue saying a man no one had ever heard of, who shared offices with sisu and proven links with Dermot Coleman had brought us.
It's all over sky sports news when anyone even thinks of taking a club over. Nothing at all for us.
Sisu we're and still are, destitute. We were weeks away from going tits up, Hyam was sold to pay the tax bill. We brought 1 free agent and 2 loans in in that window.
Why is everything within 5 years (now 4) stadium deal, prem package, Robins contract etc.
The signs are quite obvious that this wasn't a normal takeover. I dont trust the man, I never have and never will due to how he acquired the club.
As I say he's run us a lot better than the previous shitshow that nearly took us into oblivion numerous times and can't knock him for that. But the adulation and putting on a pedestal isn't for me
Don't get me wrong he has done some great things. The training ground is incredible compared to what it was, the off field structure, way better. Of course has allowed Robins to invest aswell
But this isn't from King. The club has been changed off the back of the 2 best players we have had in generations. 1 of them maybe THE best we've ever had the way he's going
Yes he's allowed us to reinvest when sisu wouldn't have. But is that not basic for a football club owner?
Secondly, I've been shouted down for it on here a few times, but again, he never 'brought' the club. He was given the club. He had the ability to put Sisu under but what would he get? Pennies in the pound. This way he has a real chance of getting back his investment lost with sisu previously.
Ask yourself why would a man, who openly admitted he had never been to a match or even knew where the CBS was would buy us?
Why did literally no media get wind? Not even the local paper. A tweet from the club out of the blue saying a man no one had ever heard of, who shared offices with sisu and proven links with Dermot Coleman had brought us.
It's all over sky sports news when anyone even thinks of taking a club over. Nothing at all for us.
Sisu we're and still are, destitute. We were weeks away from going tits up, Hyam was sold to pay the tax bill. We brought 1 free agent and 2 loans in in that window.
Why is everything within 5 years (now 4) stadium deal, prem package, Robins contract etc.
The signs are quite obvious that this wasn't a normal takeover. I dont trust the man, I never have and never will due to how he acquired the club.
As I say he's run us a lot better than the previous shitshow that nearly took us into oblivion numerous times and can't knock him for that. But the adulation and putting on a pedestal isn't for me
Understand wariness considering on previous owners even before Sisu.Don't get me wrong he has done some great things. The training ground is incredible compared to what it was, the off field structure, way better. Of course has allowed Robins to invest aswell
But this isn't from King. The club has been changed off the back of the 2 best players we have had in generations. 1 of them maybe THE best we've ever had the way he's going
Yes he's allowed us to reinvest when sisu wouldn't have. But is that not basic for a football club owner?
Secondly, I've been shouted down for it on here a few times, but again, he never 'brought' the club. He was given the club. He had the ability to put Sisu under but what would he get? Pennies in the pound. This way he has a real chance of getting back his investment lost with sisu previously.
Ask yourself why would a man, who openly admitted he had never been to a match or even knew where the CBS was would buy us?
Why did literally no media get wind? Not even the local paper. A tweet from the club out of the blue saying a man no one had ever heard of, who shared offices with sisu and proven links with Dermot Coleman had brought us.
It's all over sky sports news when anyone even thinks of taking a club over. Nothing at all for us.
Sisu we're and still are, destitute. We were weeks away from going tits up, Hyam was sold to pay the tax bill. We brought 1 free agent and 2 loans in in that window.
Why is everything within 5 years (now 4) stadium deal, prem package, Robins contract etc.
The signs are quite obvious that this wasn't a normal takeover. I dont trust the man, I never have and never will due to how he acquired the club.
As I say he's run us a lot better than the previous shitshow that nearly took us into oblivion numerous times and can't knock him for that. But the adulation and putting on a pedestal isn't for me
I am with you. At first he made out he knew nothing about SISU just shared an office in the building.Don't get me wrong he has done some great things. The training ground is incredible compared to what it was, the off field structure, way better. Of course has allowed Robins to invest aswell
But this isn't from King. The club has been changed off the back of the 2 best players we have had in generations. 1 of them maybe THE best we've ever had the way he's going
Yes he's allowed us to reinvest when sisu wouldn't have. But is that not basic for a football club owner?
Secondly, I've been shouted down for it on here a few times, but again, he never 'brought' the club. He was given the club. He had the ability to put Sisu under but what would he get? Pennies in the pound. This way he has a real chance of getting back his investment lost with sisu previously.
Ask yourself why would a man, who openly admitted he had never been to a match or even knew where the CBS was would buy us?
Why did literally no media get wind? Not even the local paper. A tweet from the club out of the blue saying a man no one had ever heard of, who shared offices with sisu and proven links with Dermot Coleman had brought us.
It's all over sky sports news when anyone even thinks of taking a club over. Nothing at all for us.
Sisu we're and still are, destitute. We were weeks away from going tits up, Hyam was sold to pay the tax bill. We brought 1 free agent and 2 loans in in that window.
Why is everything within 5 years (now 4) stadium deal, prem package, Robins contract etc.
The signs are quite obvious that this wasn't a normal takeover. I dont trust the man, I never have and never will due to how he acquired the club.
As I say he's run us a lot better than the previous shitshow that nearly took us into oblivion numerous times and can't knock him for that. But the adulation and putting on a pedestal isn't for me
Not so much as too late but he was not ready to complete and wanted time to agree contract and get fundingI mean he’s admitted being wrong already a few times like JSB this season.
Also on the stadium we put a strong bid forward which was more than Frasers but we’re too late. If I recall I remember him thinking we’re too late but we were going to try anyway?
Didn’t he finalise on the Club after missing out on the arena.Not so much as too late but he was not ready to complete and wanted time to agree contract and get funding
He bought the Club thinking he had a winning hand - clearly not done similar deals before nor dealt with Receivers!!
He’s a Norwich fan or at least from them neck of the woodsI am with you. At first he made out he knew nothing about SISU just shared an office in the building.
Came from Kenilworth,knew nothing about football but supported city.
Fair enough he has seemingly spent the money generated from Gus and Vik sales, but something still doesn’t sit right.
Where are our debts? Nothing vanishes into fresh air.
I don’t recall him saying he didn’t know Sisu. Considering he went into a 85-15 split with them he must of know then in some format to trust their involvement originally (Before actually talking to themI am with you. At first he made out he knew nothing about SISU just shared an office in the building.
Came from Kenilworth,knew nothing about football but supported city.
Fair enough he has seemingly spent the money generated from Gus and Vik sales, but something still doesn’t sit right.
Where are our debts? Nothing vanishes into fresh air.
I am with you. At first he made out he knew nothing about SISU just shared an office in the building.
Came from Kenilworth,knew nothing about football but supported city.
Fair enough he has seemingly spent the money generated from Gus and Vik sales, but something still doesn’t sit right.
Where are our debts? Nothing vanishes into fresh air.
Didn’t he finalise on the Club after missing out on the arena.
Also the judge argued it was simply too late in court. The offer was there but for how long it was going on for the people who had put money in it was too late to entertain another bid when we had not even seen the inside of the stadium.
Also on this note, w do people think the arena is a goldmine. It’s never made money, never has the trades like the NEC or the big concerts. I think every year it’s lost money and if not wrong Frasers have had to do non stop work on it including cleaning it up now.
It makes sense for the football club to own it as they have to play somewhere. For anyone else including Doug. It’s a black hole.
I think there trying to get into the community through the stadium as your right there trying to build a new headquarters in Ansty for all three businesses. To be honest, wouldn’t shock me that if they do manage to get it built in four years, they buy us next.Didn't Frasers buying the Arena have something to do with the new HQ they want to build in Ansty? I've heard they're trying to buy up real estate in the city.
He signed the club agreement pre the ground completion with a deferred elementDidn’t he finalise on the Club after missing out on the arena.
Also the judge argued it was simply too late in court. The offer was there but for how long it was going on for the people who had put money in it was too late to entertain another bid when we had not even seen the inside of the stadium.
Also on this note, w do people think the arena is a goldmine. It’s never made money, never has the trades like the NEC or the big concerts. I think every year it’s lost money and if not wrong Frasers have had to do non stop work on it including cleaning it up now.
It makes sense for the football club to own it as they have to play somewhere. For anyone else including Doug. It’s a black hole.
What is the actual source on this SISU/King link and them being indebted to him that led to him owning us, i'd be really interested to read about itDon't get me wrong he has done some great things. The training ground is incredible compared to what it was, the off field structure, way better. Of course has allowed Robins to invest aswell
But this isn't from King. The club has been changed off the back of the 2 best players we have had in generations. 1 of them maybe THE best we've ever had the way he's going
Yes he's allowed us to reinvest when sisu wouldn't have. But is that not basic for a football club owner?
Secondly, I've been shouted down for it on here a few times, but again, he never 'brought' the club. He was given the club. He had the ability to put Sisu under but what would he get? Pennies in the pound. This way he has a real chance of getting back his investment lost with sisu previously.
Ask yourself why would a man, who openly admitted he had never been to a match or even knew where the CBS was would buy us?
Why did literally no media get wind? Not even the local paper. A tweet from the club out of the blue saying a man no one had ever heard of, who shared offices with sisu and proven links with Dermot Coleman had brought us.
It's all over sky sports news when anyone even thinks of taking a club over. Nothing at all for us.
Sisu we're and still are, destitute. We were weeks away from going tits up, Hyam was sold to pay the tax bill. We brought 1 free agent and 2 loans in in that window.
Why is everything within 5 years (now 4) stadium deal, prem package, Robins contract etc.
The signs are quite obvious that this wasn't a normal takeover. I dont trust the man, I never have and never will due to how he acquired the club.
As I say he's run us a lot better than the previous shitshow that nearly took us into oblivion numerous times and can't knock him for that. But the adulation and putting on a pedestal isn't for me
So this is just my understanding. Doug king agrees to buy the club on the 16th November and launches 25 million bid to buy arena.He signed the club agreement pre the ground completion with a deferred element
If he had bought the club post ground sale that makes even less sense as the Club was served a leaving notice.
I don't understand the comment DK had not seen the inside of the stadium. So he put an offer in 'blind' ? The Receivers set a completion date of which DK was aware but he thought by putting in a higher offer the Court would extend the date. However that would only have worked (possibly) if DK could show he had the funds ir certainty of at the extended date.
I should think so too.Milan was one
PSV came in with 9 million, we rebuffed
More or less - I cannot confirm the actual datesSo this is just my understanding. Doug king agrees to buy the club on the 16th November and launches 25 million bid to buy arena.
Brings this to court which is agreeing on the sale due to the debt needing to be the best deal decided by the court for the People indebit to Wasps on the 17th. Judge rules that deal was too late and since Ashley had been funding the arena and had an exclusivity deal offered the best money for the debt as per administration rules.
Doug then looks to complete the purchase of the club that happens in January after Ashley gave the club an eviction notice on the 5th December.
And yeah he put in the bid blind without having a Valuer review it like Ashley did. This was noted as one of the reasons it was too late by the judge as if we had found something we could of pulled out.
The judge ruled he had credible funds but concerned that the club had to no commit to complete where as Ashley did.
"We" could have pulled out??So this is just my understanding. Doug king agrees to buy the club on the 16th November and launches 25 million bid to buy arena.
Brings this to court which is agreeing on the sale due to the debt needing to be the best deal decided by the court for the People indebit to Wasps on the 17th. Judge rules that deal was too late and since Ashley had been funding the arena and had an exclusivity deal offered the best money for the debt as per administration rules.
Doug then looks to complete the purchase of the club that happens in January after Ashley gave the club an eviction notice on the 5th December.
And yeah he put in the bid blind without having a Valuer review it like Ashley did. This was noted as one of the reasons it was too late by the judge as if we had found something we could of pulled out.
The judge ruled he had credible funds but concerned that the club had to no commit to complete where as Ashley did.
Yeah, if the valuation showed for instance work was going to cost 30 million, we might of pulled out or reduced our offer. Or if we were financing it using bank funds they could have pulled out leaving without us having funds."We" could have pulled out??
I was questioning the "We"Yeah, if the valuation showed for instance work was going to cost 30 million, we might of pulled out or reduced our offer. Or if we were financing it using bank funds they could have pulled out leaving without us having funds.
Like if you find the perfect house but then find it’s worthless due to Japanese knotweed. Fraser had done this work and reduced their offer already because of it
He’s a Norwich fan or at least from them neck of the woods
Probably worth checking the post I was responding toSo What ! How Many Owner's Do Come From Their Neck Of The Woods.
Yeah it was a club offer thus the we. But sure Doug could have pulled out. This is why the arena went to Frasers who got all their ducks in a row.I was questioning the "We"
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