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[Evo1883]

EMC's transfer was a bizarre one, must have been planning a Wright sale?

Again though , he's got every attribute to succeed and his record in the league below suggests he could step up .. it's still early days for him here

 

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[Grendel]

Andy thorn was always a decent scout , his record stands up

It really doesn’t

 

[Nick]

You have no idea how it works btw , cheers


Fact : mark robins isn't solely responsible for the players we sign , he's simply saying yes or no to the people paid to get the right players in .

Why would he say no ? None of these players will look bad in a compiled video

I didn't say he was solely responsible, I have said he has the final say.

Yes because the scouts will be showing him YouTube clips

 

[Evo1883]

It really doesn’t

It's not like you to push back illogically on something they might have done quite well at because you don't like them.. shocked tbh

 

[Sick Boy]

OK I get you, so I overestimated by 100%. From a practical perspective, little point in anyone ever saying anything on here about club policies then. They never take fans' opinions into account.

At the end of the day it doesn't matter whether we agree, and maybe you're right. I've just hated the feckin awful overblown negativity on here this season, undermining confidence and bothering Robins enough to complain about keyboard warriors. And taken far enough by some as to post bold demands for a good man to be sacked.

I think he was probably referring to the idiots who tag players’ personal social media accounts and abuse them.

 

[wingy]

Again though , he's got every attribute to succeed and his record in the league below suggests he could step up .. it's still early days for him here

Yeah not denying that just an observation and another angle to the debate of King or Robins?

 

[Evo1883]

I didn't say he was solely responsible, I have said he has the final say.

Yes because the scouts will be showing him YouTube clips

It clearly states in the article that robins said he will watch videos of the players cheers

 

[Grendel]

It's not like you to push back illogically on something they might have done quite well at because you don't like them.. shocked tbh

Name 5 scouted players by thorn that were a success

 

[Nick]

It clearly states in the article that robins said he will watch videos of the players cheers

Yes of course he will but the scouts won't be going to him saying he looks good and showing best bits. They will have pros and cons to each of them, stats for and against etc. which as I said has happened with the previous scouts.

Unless you're suggesting that the bloke with the final say is just saying yes to everything?

 

[Evo1883]

Name 5 scouted players by thorn that were a success

Well you don't become chief scout at premier league Fulham and coventry and a scout at Everton and West brom if you're bad at your job

During his years at Fulham alone they signed players like clint dempsey , wayne routledge and Jimmy bullard.

You're wrong grendel

 

[Evo1883]

Yes of course he will but the scouts won't be going to him saying he looks good and showing best bits. They will have pros and cons to each of them, stats for and against etc. which as I said has happened with the previous scouts.

Unless you're suggesting that the bloke with the final say is just saying yes to everything?

I think nick with respect , you're being a naus because you're taking this discussion absolutely nowhere

 

[Grendel]

Well you don't become chief scout at premier league Fulham and coventry and a scout at Everton and West brom if you're bad at your job

During his years at Fulham alone they signed players like clint dempsey , wayne routledge and Jimmy bollard.

You're wrong grendel

He was mates with Ranson, Coleman and Keane.

His scouted signings were a joke.

 

[Evo1883]

He was mates with Ranson, Coleman and Keane.

His scouted signings were a joke.

So we never signed any good players under their regime ?

I think you're wrong and we had some pretty guff managers

 

[Calista]

EMC's transfer was a bizarre one, must have been planning a Wright sale?

I doubt that very much. The worth of having him in addition to Wright is being proved right now.

 

[Grendel]

So we never signed any good players under their regime ?

I think you're wrong and we had some pretty guff managers

I have asked you to name some

 

[Evo1883]

I have asked you to name some

Im what capacity ? Players signed by the club or youth players signed by the club ?

You think we signed no good footballers between 2007-2011

I'm just asking before I go and speel off loads of good players we had between these years

 

[Grendel]

Im what capacity ? Players signed by the club or youth players signed by the club ?

Uou think we signed no good footballers between 2007-2011

Scouted players are signings for the first team

Name some

 

[PVA]

Name 5 scouted players by thorn that were a success

Keiren Westwood
Aron Gunnarsson
Richard Keogh
Lukas Jutkiewicz
Martin Cranie

 

[Evo1883]

Scouted players are signings for the first team

Name some

Kieran Westwood, aaron gunnarson , Martin cranie , richard Keogh and juke to name your 5 without really looking

 

[Grendel]

Keiren Westwood
Aron Gunnarsson
Richard Keogh
Lukas Jutkiewicz
Martin Cranie

Gunnarson was signed after recommendation from a scout from Amsterdam

Westwood was L1 goalie of the year - hardly a coup and we paid a record fee for a goalie in that league

It’s a fantasy. In fact the only player in an interview thorn admitted to signing was David Bell

 

[Evo1883]

Keiren Westwood
Aron Gunnarsson
Richard Keogh
Lukas Jutkiewicz
Martin Cranie

There's more I just haven't looked but it's weird I said the same 5 as you

 

[Nick]

Off topic to the thread but I never had much of an issue with him as a scout but the whole manager thing and fans asking for him to get the job full time. Nightmare material.

 

[PVA]

There's more I just haven't looked but it's weird I said the same 5 as you

 

[Evo1883]

Gunnarson was signed after recommendation from a scout from Amsterdam

Westwood was L1 goalie of the year - hardly a coup and we paid a record fee for a goalie in that league

It’s a fantasy. In fact the only player in an interview thorn admitted to signing was David Bell

Westwood played for Ireland and went to the prem , largely described as our best keeper since the Premier league .

As I already said , he was scout at Fulham and Everton and West brom In the Premier league ..

Maybe you know more than their men , you're wrong

Andy thorn scout for 4 years only scouted david bell , I wonder if it's on his linked'in

 

[PVA]

Gunnarson was signed after recommendation from a scout from Amsterdam

Westwood was L1 goalie of the year - hardly a coup and we paid a record fee for a goalie in that league

It’s a fantasy. In fact the only player in an interview thorn admitted to signing was David Bell

OK so he's not responsible for any of the good signings during his time but was responsible for all the bad ones. Gotcha.

 

[Evo1883]

OK so he's not responsible for any of the good signings during his time but was responsible for all the bad ones. Gotcha.

It's drivel

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Sorry what is the argument even about at this point?

 

[Evo1883]

Sorry what is the argument even about at this point?

Don't know tbh , we've moved on to wether andy thorn was a shit scout

 

[Sick Boy]

OK so he's not responsible for any of the good signings during his time but was responsible for all the bad ones. Gotcha.

He definitely didn’t scout Gunnarson, he was recommended to Ranson/Coleman by an ex-pro.

edit; here’s a link -

Coventry City sign Aron Einar Gunnarsson

 

[Grendel]

OK so he's not responsible for any of the good signings during his time but was responsible for all the bad ones. Gotcha.

He was not responsible for at least 3 of those players. As I’ve said the only one he’s ever admitted to being proud of spotting is David Bell

 

[covcity4life]

OK so he's not responsible for any of the good signings during his time but was responsible for all the bad ones. Gotcha.

Thorn or robins?

 

[Evo1883]

He was not responsible for at least 3 of those players. As I’ve said the only one he’s ever admitted to being proud of spotting is David Bell

But when I said he's a good scout you've ignored the fact he was a scout at Everton for 5 years , Fulham for 2 , coventry for 4 and west brom for 9 years and now Wimbledon after .

Why would 3 premier league club at the time employ him if he was shit ?

 

[PVA]

He definitely didn’t scout Gunnarson, he was recommended to Ranson/Coleman by an ex-pro.

edit; here’s a link -

Coventry City sign Aron Einar Gunnarsson

So you think we signed a player purely on the word of Heidar Helguson and did no scouting on him? OK.

 

[PVA]

Thorn or robins?

 

[Evo1883]

So you think we signed a player purely on the word of Heidar Helguson and did no scouting on him? OK.

I imagine scouts are told about lots of players that they then go and look at